Israel

[pirate]

[oldie]

Oct 13, 2023 14:49:49 GMT pirate said:

Maybe residents of Gaza should have risen up against the 16 year siege of Gaza...

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[gas2]

Well the residents rose up against us regarding the south stand issue

[oldie]

Oct 14, 2023 9:53:22 GMT gas2 said:

Well the residents rose up against us regarding the south stand issue

Puerile at best.

[Midsomer Murderer]

Oct 12, 2023 17:48:47 GMT pirate said:

Oct 12, 2023 17:08:23 GMT Midsomer Murderer said:

if Hamas have built in or under these buildings then Israel are entitled to bomb. This was confirmed on Radio 4 last night

Have they built in or under all of them? Are the 447 Palestinian children killed in Gaza in 5 days the "human animals" the Israeli Defense Minister spoke of? Just say "Hamas" and everything and anyone is a legitimate target.

Only people who know are Hamas and the IDF mate. Yes it is horrific but Hamas knew the reaction would be severe

[trevorgas]

Oct 14, 2023 13:22:01 GMT Midsomer Murderer said:

Oct 12, 2023 17:48:47 GMT pirate said:

Have they built in or under all of them? Are the 447 Palestinian children killed in Gaza in 5 days the "human animals" the Israeli Defense Minister spoke of? Just say "Hamas" and everything and anyone is a legitimate target.

Only people who know are Hamas and the IDF mate. Yes it is horrific but Hamas knew the reaction would be severe

That's not the point though is it,we as democracies are meant to have moral courage and there is none of that displayed here.
How does any right thinking person believe it's ok to kill innocent civilians.

[pirate]

Oct 14, 2023 13:22:01 GMT Midsomer Murderer said:

Oct 12, 2023 17:48:47 GMT pirate said:

Have they built in or under all of them? Are the 447 Palestinian children killed in Gaza in 5 days the "human animals" the Israeli Defense Minister spoke of? Just say "Hamas" and everything and anyone is a legitimate target.

Only people who know are Hamas and the IDF mate. Yes it is horrific but Hamas knew the reaction would be severe

This is genocidal and war crimes are being committed. The bombing of a civilian population with White Phosphorus, bombing ambulances and killing medics, deliberately targeting and killing journalists, bombing and killing civilians (as young as 2 and 5) as they fled on a convoy following a forceable transfer order and cutting off water, electricity, internet, medical supplies & humanitarian aid to a civilian population are all war crimes.

[pirate]

[pirate]

Oct 14, 2023 15:27:00 GMT trevorgas said:

Oct 14, 2023 13:22:01 GMT Midsomer Murderer said:

Only people who know are Hamas and the IDF mate. Yes it is horrific but Hamas knew the reaction would be severe

That's not the point though is it,we as democracies are meant to have moral courage and there is none of that displayed here.
How does any right thinking person believe it's ok to kill innocent civilians.

[yattongas]

Think I heard it best summed up when someone said you have to be pro Palestine and pro Israel . The only solution is a two state solution and the hard liners on both sides are completely against this. The only chance is when the moderates on both sides get power.

[trevorgas]

Oct 14, 2023 15:53:20 GMT pirate said:

Oct 14, 2023 13:22:01 GMT Midsomer Murderer said:

Only people who know are Hamas and the IDF mate. Yes it is horrific but Hamas knew the reaction would be severe

This is genocidal and war crimes are being committed. The bombing of a civilian population with White Phosphorus, bombing ambulances and killing medics, deliberately targeting and killing journalists, bombing and killing civilians (as young as 2 and 5) as they fled on a convoy following a forceable transfer order and cutting off water, electricity, internet, medical supplies & humanitarian aid to a civilian population are all war crimes.

It makes me weep to be living in a Country that has a government that thinks it's ok ,it's not , Israel has a right to defend itself but this cannot be right and us supporting sickens me

[yattongas]

Oct 14, 2023 16:16:57 GMT trevorgas said:

Oct 14, 2023 15:53:20 GMT pirate said:

This is genocidal and war crimes are being committed. The bombing of a civilian population with White Phosphorus, bombing ambulances and killing medics, deliberately targeting and killing journalists, bombing and killing civilians (as young as 2 and 5) as they fled on a convoy following a forceable transfer order and cutting off water, electricity, internet, medical supplies & humanitarian aid to a civilian population are all war crimes.

It makes me weep to be living in a Country that has a government that thinks it's ok ,it's not , Israel has a right to defend itself but this cannot be right and us supporting sickens me

When you hear the line “Israel’s response has to be proportionate “ …… what the hell does that even mean ?

[pirate]

Oct 14, 2023 16:01:57 GMT yattongas said:

Think I heard it best summed up when someone said you have to be pro Palestine and pro Israel . The only solution is a two state solution and the hard liners on both sides are completely against this. The only chance is when the moderates on both sides get power.

[baggins]

There's a part of me that thinks this is the perfect excuse for Israel to flatten Palestine.

There's also a part of me that wonders why the Palestinian forces can't get rid of Hamas themselves.

There's another part of me that wonders why Nations can jump to attention in this area but won't help the Ukraine. Or anyone else.

Too simple?

[oldie]

Oct 14, 2023 16:16:57 GMT trevorgas said:

Oct 14, 2023 15:53:20 GMT pirate said:

This is genocidal and war crimes are being committed. The bombing of a civilian population with White Phosphorus, bombing ambulances and killing medics, deliberately targeting and killing journalists, bombing and killing civilians (as young as 2 and 5) as they fled on a convoy following a forceable transfer order and cutting off water, electricity, internet, medical supplies & humanitarian aid to a civilian population are all war crimes.

It makes me weep to be living in a Country that has a government that thinks it's ok ,it's not , Israel has a right to defend itself but this cannot be right and us supporting sickens me

Absolutely
Don't you also find it sickening that so many of our fellow supporters say on here that all this is ok?

[francegas]

Oct 14, 2023 16:30:00 GMT yattongas said:

Oct 14, 2023 16:16:57 GMT trevorgas said:

It makes me weep to be living in a Country that has a government that thinks it's ok ,it's not , Israel has a right to defend itself but this cannot be right and us supporting sickens me

When you hear the line “Israel’s response has to be proportionate “ …… what the hell does that even mean ?

Who knows Yatton. Maybe if Israel launched 1000s of rockets without warning, slayed hundreds of people enjoying a music festival, went door to door murdering innocent people, shot children in front of parents and parents in front of their children, killed babies, raped women, took 100s of hostages etc etc maybe there wouldn't be the demonstrations across the UK as it would equal and proportionate.

[trevorgas]

Oct 14, 2023 19:26:16 GMT oldie said:

Oct 14, 2023 16:16:57 GMT trevorgas said:

It makes me weep to be living in a Country that has a government that thinks it's ok ,it's not , Israel has a right to defend itself but this cannot be right and us supporting sickens me

Absolutely
Don't you also find it sickening that so many of our fellow supporters say on here that all this is ok?

I can't understand and rationalise why folk think it's ok,I get Francegas comments however,that doesn't justify overwhelming force against civilians,does anyone actually believe that the civilians in Gaza were aware of Hamas plans and sanctioned it.
Critically,this will result in another generation of potential terrorists.