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Post by RD on Nov 23, 2015 20:52:49 GMT
"I am sure you are all aware there has once again been lots of unfounded rumours of new investments and buy-outs of the club The Key words here are: unfounded and Rumours. Nothing is happening which is what I have been saying since page 2 Personally I disagree. We've all seen/read NH earlier comments. It doesn't confirm the rumours, but it doesn't refute them in their entirety either. What's more, his final paragraph indicates why his hands could be tied. Refuting the rumours in their entirety is not hard. Here is an example: "I can categorically deny the rumours of an offer being lodged for the football club. We are not currently in talks with any individual(s) or any consortium(s) and are not aware of any forthcoming offers." It really is that simple. For those who want to flip my argument on it's head and say "yes, but why not 100% confirm them either?"; I point you in the direction of NH final comments on the matter (the final paragraph in the article). |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 23, 2015 20:53:44 GMT
Well at least that would mean this thread would go dormant for a few months!!
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Post by RD on Nov 23, 2015 20:54:07 GMT
Well at least that would mean this thread would go dormant for a few months!! But what would you do with your life in the meantime?   |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 21:13:44 GMT
They may take our women's team
They may take our fans of the future with clever marketing
They may take our rugby club
They may take the p1ss
BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR NEW BEGINNING THREAD!!! Or our freedom.
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Post by aghast on Nov 23, 2015 21:38:02 GMT
If I were Nick Higgs and currently in discussions with investor(s), subject to a strict confidentiality clause, I would be happy to release that statement.
If I were Nick Higgs and currently not in discussions with any investor(s), because there are none at the moment and/or I had rejected their offers, I would not release that statement since it suggests things could be happening when they are not. Why would Nick Higgs do that? What could he hope to gain in that situation by not issuing an outright honest denial of any discussions?
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Post by oldgas on Nov 23, 2015 21:53:22 GMT
That confirms the rumours IMO. There was no reason at all he couldn't have point blankly refuted the rumours had there have been no truth in them; he didn't. Hence I think they are true, but he can't divulge the details, as per his remarks in the final paragraph. As gasincider would say, "keep the faith". This. My thoughts in a nutshell. |
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Post by Big Jock on Nov 23, 2015 22:15:27 GMT
"I am sure you are all aware there has once again been lots of unfounded rumours of new investments and buy-outs of the club The Key words here are: unfounded and Rumours.
Nothing is happening which is what I have been saying since page 2sorry pal but that's the worst attempt at an 'i told ya so' i every saw  |
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Post by Big Jock on Nov 23, 2015 22:18:57 GMT
That confirms the rumours IMO. There was no reason at all he couldn't have point blankly refuted the rumours had there have been no truth in them; he didn't. Hence I think they are true, but he can't divulge the details, as per his remarks in the final paragraph. As gasincider would say, "keep the faith". This. My thoughts in a nutshell. I am very claustrophobic. That's me in a nutshell. |
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Post by lympstonegas on Nov 23, 2015 22:25:18 GMT
For what it's worth reading that I don't think we are in advanced talks with anyone - they have obviously had talks with potential investors and this is probably where the leaks discussed on here have come from as some investors might have been seen as progressing further than previous ones beforehand however I think these have ended now and it's all speculation that still exists IMHO Problem is you can read that statement anyway you want to, if we're not in talks why didn't NH just say "No talks are presently taking place whilst we concentrate on the Sainsbury's Appeal?" Yeah you're probably just as right - I just don't get the hate campaign against the bloke - confidentiality does bound any initial discussions if of course he is in discussions so he can't really win either way - wish we just get on with looking forward to beating Stevenage tomorrow - awful night out there though and the pitch is going to be very wet |
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Post by pirateman on Nov 23, 2015 22:26:04 GMT
This. My thoughts in a nutshell. I am very claustrophobic. That's me in a nutshell. And I'm agoraphobic - sh** scared of skinheads - or is it sh** scared of goats |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 7:33:13 GMT
This. My thoughts in a nutshell. I am very claustrophobic. That's me in a nutshell. That's me in the spotlight? That's me in the corner, losing my religion? |
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Post by philbemmygas on Nov 24, 2015 7:56:53 GMT
Problem is you can read that statement anyway you want to, if we're not in talks why didn't NH just say "No talks are presently taking place whilst we concentrate on the Sainsbury's Appeal?" Yeah you're probably just as right - I just don't get the hate campaign against the bloke - confidentiality does bound any initial discussions if of course he is in discussions so he can't really win either way - wish we just get on with looking forward to beating Stevenage tomorrow - awful night out there though and the pitch is going to be very wet Rain, wind it helped us beat Carlisle. UTG |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 24, 2015 8:35:32 GMT
Problem is you can read that statement anyway you want to, if we're not in talks why didn't NH just say "No talks are presently taking place whilst we concentrate on the Sainsbury's Appeal?" Yeah you're probably just as right - I just don't get the hate campaign against the bloke - confidentiality does bound any initial discussions if of course he is in discussions so he can't really win either way - wish we just get on with looking forward to beating Stevenage tomorrow - awful night out there though and the pitch is going to be very wet Surely confidentiality comes down to him not saying we're in discussions with X, Y or Z not being unable to just say we're in discussions with interested parties? Regardless why say the nonsence about "we'd all like to know details of the consortium" when it's clear from this statement he's had load of approaches. |
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Post by gasincider on Nov 24, 2015 9:42:25 GMT
As said previously, all NH's report does is confirm that no one going on Thursday will get an answer to the one big question everyone wishes answered. Therefore a total waste of time.
Best to ask how he expects to repay the debts in the event of catastrophe at the high court, assuming he is still in charge then. Just hope the consortium is prepared to wait that long.
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Post by Mancgas has left the building on Nov 24, 2015 9:50:30 GMT
"I am sure you are all aware there has once again been lots of unfounded rumours of new investments and buy-outs of the club The Key words here are: unfounded and Rumours. Nothing is happening which is what I have been saying since page 2 As someone pointed out the Chairman contradicted himself at least once. There has been around 212 pages of nonsense on this thread, but all I know for definite is there was a number of people (ie more than 1) in discussions in the last 2 months on the same offer (call that a consortium or a group or multiple of humans). Indeed after being re-buffed the consortium/group/multiple humans, met for further discussions. From what has been said since they've withdrawn the offer and it will be interesting to see if the news hits the press. Before anyone asks why isnt it there already - I know that the report on Chris Samuelson was given to the Evening Post (including the photo that appeared in the final article) immediately after the final penalty went in at Wembley, and that didnt appear in the Post until 6 weeks later ie 30 June as they obviously have to check their sources etc. |
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Post by dave on Nov 24, 2015 10:14:22 GMT
Yeah you're probably just as right - I just don't get the hate campaign against the bloke - confidentiality does bound any initial discussions if of course he is in discussions so he can't really win either way - wish we just get on with looking forward to beating Stevenage tomorrow - awful night out there though and the pitch is going to be very wet Surely confidentiality comes down to him not saying we're in discussions with X, Y or Z not being unable to just say we're in discussions with interested parties? Regardless why say the nonsence about "we'd all like to know details of the consortium" when it's clear from this statement he's had load of approaches. I agree. IF he is in 'CURRENT' negotiations, is it likely that a confidentiality agreement would preclude him saying there are ongoing discussions with an 'un-named' party? |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Nov 24, 2015 11:10:27 GMT
The only thing this thread has shown us is how people twist words so they can keep having a pop at NH.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 24, 2015 11:28:49 GMT
Given that 12 different investors have approached the club and a deal clearly hasn't been done with any of them as we limp towards the Appeal hearing with debts of circa £8m, then don't you think some of us are entitled to be a bit concerned about NH's approach?
Apart from Admin &/or sellling the Mem to pay off the debts I can't really see where NH is actually taking the club?
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Post by peterparker on Nov 24, 2015 11:33:53 GMT
Given that 12 different investors have approached the club and a deal clearly hasn't been done with any of them as we limp towards the Appeal hearing with debts of circa £8m, then don't you think some of us are entitled to be a bit concerned about NH's approach? Apart from Admin &/or sellling the Mem to pay off the debts I can't really see where NH is actually taking the club? Perhaps someone can ask NH how bad any of these investors could have been compared to losing a court appeal with a huge outside loan of circa £2m accruing interest |
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Post by casey12a on Nov 24, 2015 11:34:23 GMT
If NH does have the infamous plan B, if we lose the appeal I wonder if we'll be told what it is........Oh unless of course it has a confidentially clause.
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