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Post by Cantankerous Gas on Feb 19, 2015 17:58:52 GMT
The main reason that the New stadium has not been started is down to distructive ef forts of Trash Or the Green Party as they really are! Is there a view that we should stand a Rovers candiadte in May General election? I think we should, on a single issue 'Rovers and the New stadium' ticket". What do you think? Shall we get the ball rolling ASAP?........... I nominate Cantankerous Gas complete with all those "aids" he has on footer... Unfortunately Ms Bellucci, Anden & Upton are all overseas. Ms Fritz works for the Beeb so she's probably a Green!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 18:02:13 GMT
To be honest he's not that from the truth is he, don't tell me you wear sandals as well ?or perhaps he just described you. Maybe i do, why, what footwear should i wear to fit your ideal person? Someone's having a nibble ??
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Post by Mark Ash on Feb 19, 2015 18:08:46 GMT
Jeez, where did that come from? I see how us footy fans get a bad press now. There is no other Road in the UK with as many independantly owned shops as Gloucester Road - which suggests they need a bigger store Does it? Much rather have indie shops, myself. Better for employment too in the long term. Let's not forget that it's the corrupt power of giant corporations like Sainsbury's that we're up against. We didn't go with them on principle - we just wanted the money. That was fair enough, but I've never been a Sainsbury's fan. And I'm sure not one now. The great irony of the whole ground-sale struggle is that the Greens (beardy teachers etc.) may have inadvertently got their Great Satan off the hook. At our expense, if it happens.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 18:12:19 GMT
How much money could we get in compo?
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Post by tumshie on Feb 19, 2015 18:18:13 GMT
How much money could we get in compo? We either win or lose i think, can't see there being a middle ground unless Sainsburys settle beforehand.
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Post by empirebaypete on Feb 19, 2015 18:26:55 GMT
How much money could we get in compo? No money Mate. But all season ticket holders will get a lifetimes supply of Lentils & Dried Prunes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 18:39:34 GMT
Settlement? £££
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 18:40:02 GMT
There is no other Road in the UK with as many independantly owned shops as Gloucester Road - which suggests they need a bigger store Does it? Much rather have indie shops, myself. Better for employment too in the long term. Let's not forget that it's the corrupt power of giant corporations like Sainsbury's that we're up against. We didn't go with them on principle - we just wanted the money. That was fair enough, but I've never been a Sainsbury's fan. And I'm sure not one now. The great irony of the whole ground-sale struggle is that the Greens (beardy teachers etc.) may have inadvertently got their Great Satan off the hook. At our expense, if it happens. Yep. Trash helped Sainsburies rip off a Gloucester Road business. They must be so proud.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 19:03:56 GMT
Good area for them, right sort of demographic as well I wish! Area full of sandal wearing, bearded teachers and leftie Green idiots - Waitrose is what they would all want! Or perhaps Holland & Barrett could open a HUGE superstore - they would definitely be keen on that one. Lentils and dried prunes anyone? Bearded individuals being natural enemies of the club is bad news for our midfield...
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Post by amgas on Feb 19, 2015 19:04:09 GMT
Should not forget that the small shops on Gloucester Road, many of whom don't actually compete with Sainsbury's, will be losing out on a pot of 106 money that would have improved their "town center".
Think of those shops miles from the Mem at the bottom of Gloucester road that would have benefitted and will now be losing out.
Well done Trash, well done Greens, you have cost the independant traders a chance to improve Gloucester Road, while Sainsburys would have brought much needed foot fall.
More takeaways and charity shops is the future I am afraid. The worst case for these traders is Sainsburys are forced to buy the site, but don't bother developing it - no 106 money, no football crowds spending in the local area. Is that what trash call a win win situation ?
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Post by Mark Ash on Feb 19, 2015 19:22:55 GMT
Does it? Much rather have indie shops, myself. Better for employment too in the long term. Let's not forget that it's the corrupt power of giant corporations like Sainsbury's that we're up against. We didn't go with them on principle - we just wanted the money. That was fair enough, but I've never been a Sainsbury's fan. And I'm sure not one now. The great irony of the whole ground-sale struggle is that the Greens (beardy teachers etc.) may have inadvertently got their Great Satan off the hook. At our expense, if it happens. Yep. Trash helped Sainsburies rip off a Gloucester Road business. They must be so proud. I suppose they'd say they've (possibly) stopped Sainsbury's and that's what they wanted. But they might have destroyed Rovers. (Worst case, long term.) It is a pity they couldn't spare a thought for us as an independent Bristol business. The blind following of ideology invariably increases misery.
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Post by phillistine on Feb 19, 2015 20:33:29 GMT
There is no other Road in the UK with as many independantly owned shops as Gloucester Road - which suggests they need a bigger store Does it? Much rather have indie shops, myself. Better for employment too in the long term. Let's not forget that it's the corrupt power of giant corporations like Sainsbury's that we're up against. We didn't go with them on principle - we just wanted the money. That was fair enough, but I've never been a Sainsbury's fan. And I'm sure not one now. The great irony of the whole ground-sale struggle is that the Greens (beardy teachers etc.) may have inadvertently got their Great Satan off the hook. At our expense, if it happens. A road needs a mixture of shops to survive including outlets like newsagents where you pop in and make a quick purchase, cafes where people stop and congregate and larger supermarket type operations that may persuade shoppers that they don't need to drive to a different part of town but can get everything that they need locally and conversely may attract people from a different side of town.
The irony is that many of the people who didn't want the supermarket would have benefited from the regeneration that it brought to the area. That is too late however and I suspect that if the sale goes through then many of the independent shops on that High street will fall by the wayside as the footfall will decline and the loss of small business rate relief kicks in and sends their overheads through the roof
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Post by eglantinorovers on Feb 19, 2015 21:03:12 GMT
With the debate about Sainsburys and Trash Horfield, let's not forget that if the Greens/trash had not got involved, our new stadium would be getting built now. When I heard that Sainsbury's were pulling out of the deal with Rovers stopped using their stores. Nevertheless blame lies fairly@ squarely withthe greens/trash interference.
Bristol West is one seat Trash/Greens believe that they are confident of winning in the forthcoming elections. We need to try and actively prevent this by constructive action ie fielding our own candidate.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 19, 2015 21:14:45 GMT
I just wonder if Trash hadn't got involved whether the UWE stadium would have now been built but Sainsbury's had decided not to progress with the store development, if so, Trash would have been rid of Rovers as well as Sainsbury's. Perhaps the victory they are trying to claim was in fact a failure?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 21:22:02 GMT
With the debate about Sainsburys and Trash Horfield, let's not forget that if the Greens/trash had not got involved, our new stadium would be getting built now. When I heard that Sainsbury's were pulling out of the deal with Rovers stopped using their stores. Nevertheless blame lies fairly@ squarely withthe greens/trash interference. Bristol West is one seat Trash/Greens believe that they are confident of winning in the forthcoming elections. We need to try and actively prevent this by constructive action ie fielding our own candidate. i really can't see how putting a candidate up for the bristol west seat will make a huge difference.... we are talking about one of the closest 3 way constituencies in the country here (cons, lab, libs have all held the seat in the last 20 years) the greens never feature in the generals as 4% of the vote shows.... with all of the usual tactical voting going on i suspect a close call between lab and lib
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 19, 2015 21:50:14 GMT
With the debate about Sainsburys and Trash Horfield, let's not forget that if the Greens/trash had not got involved, our new stadium would be getting built now. When I heard that Sainsbury's were pulling out of the deal with Rovers stopped using their stores. Nevertheless blame lies fairly@ squarely withthe greens/trash interference. Bristol West is one seat Trash/Greens believe that they are confident of winning in the forthcoming elections. We need to try and actively prevent this by constructive action ie fielding our own candidate. i really can't see how putting a candidate up for the bristol west seat will make a huge difference.... we are talking about one of the closest 3 way constituencies in the country here (cons, lab, libs have all held the seat in the last 20 years) the greens never feature in the generals as 4% of the vote shows.... with all of the usual tactical voting going on i suspect a close call between lab and lib Apparently it's the Greens' number one target constituency. I can't see it, coz it's such a three way marginal, as you say.
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Post by eglantinorovers on Feb 19, 2015 22:18:50 GMT
Always admired your threads gregsgas but I know someone who is willing to stand in May, and as much as i hope the Greens only poll 4% , we have a hapless sitting MP who has not done anything for Bristol Rovers. The leader of the Labour Party hasnot really shown anything to get excited about. We have moreover to remember Daniele Radical is now deputy mayor so we must get the ball rolling on standing a gashead as we must not continue to give the Greens the respect they don't deserve. Remember the cricket club has had its application for floodlights turned down over light pollution by the hapless council ...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 22:43:39 GMT
Always admired your threads gregsgas but I know someone who is willing to stand in May, and as much as i hope the Greens only poll 4% , we have a hapless sitting MP who has not done anything for Bristol Rovers. The leader of the Labour Party hasnot really shown anything to get excited about. We have moreover to remember Daniele Radical is now deputy mayor so we must get the ball rolling on standing a gashead as we must not continue to give the Greens the respect they don't deserve. Remember the cricket club has had its application for floodlights turned down over light pollution by the hapless council ... This candidate you talk of wouldn't happen to be representing UKIP by any chance?
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Post by eglantinorovers on Feb 19, 2015 23:07:23 GMT
Where did you get that ideafrom? The wording was standing on a Rovers Ticket.The potential candidate has stood for General secretary of Unite,Twice, finishing behind Len McClusky, polling over 250,000 votes,and is a life -long Gashead.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2015 23:20:31 GMT
Where did you get that ideafrom? The wording was standing on a Rovers Ticket.The potential candidate has stood for General secretary of Unite,Twice, finishing behind Len McClusky, polling over 250,000 votes,and is a life -long Gashead. It was just a question, whatever the political persuasion good luck trying to unseat the Greens, Bristolians as a majority have shown apathy time and time again when it comes to voting, even more so at Rovers as a collective we sat back and let Trash steam roll through the FC with no opposition. The Greens have had their own way fore years and IMO will continue to do so sadly. If this candidate can find a way of waking the dead so to speak then he or she could go a hell of a long way in politics on a wider scale as the locals are forever fast asleep when it comes to change, quick to moan in the Bristol Post about Mayor red trousers but no energy to vote.
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