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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 30, 2023 11:55:49 GMT
Precisely,what was it a £5 billion contract and only a handful of Armoured vehicles delivered. The media go on about waste during COVID but my guess the systemic waste in the MO D far exceeds that but barely a whisper . Yep, £3.5bn given to General Dynamics for a couple of dozen vehicles whose noise and vibration issues are causing injury to its crews and another £2bn to pay. Or Labour delaying ships because the in year budget had no room but adding £2bn to the overall cost. 🙄 |
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 30, 2023 12:35:46 GMT
Precisely,what was it a £5 billion contract and only a handful of Armoured vehicles delivered. The media go on about waste during COVID but my guess the systemic waste in the MO D far exceeds that but barely a whisper . Yep, £3.5bn given to General Dynamics for a couple of dozen vehicles whose noise and vibration issues are causing injury to its crews and another £2bn to pay. Or Labour delaying ships because the in year budget had no room but adding £2bn to the overall cost. 🙄 What really gets me going is that there appears on the face of it to be no consequences,if I had blown a £100k of my annual budget without being able to account for success or improvements the exit door would have flashed up . It's not only the sheer waste but : We don't seem to learn The delays are breathtaking. Equipment is either then obsolete or not fit for purpose. Now we get retired Major Generals asking for more money which I'm sure they need but I wouldn't trust the Procurement folk with the tuck shop money!! |
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Post by baggins on Jan 30, 2023 12:45:40 GMT
It's the sheer scale of the money spunked away over the last 12 years, of OUR money with nothing to show for it and no-one held to task over the responsibility for allowing it, or even encouraging it for their own personal gain that really churns my guts.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 30, 2023 13:37:39 GMT
Yep, £3.5bn given to General Dynamics for a couple of dozen vehicles whose noise and vibration issues are causing injury to its crews and another £2bn to pay. Or Labour delaying ships because the in year budget had no room but adding £2bn to the overall cost. 🙄 What really gets me going is that there appears on the face of it to be no consequences,if I had blown a £100k of my annual budget without being able to account for success or improvements the exit door would have flashed up . It's not only the sheer waste but : We don't seem to learn The delays are breathtaking. Equipment is either then obsolete or not fit for purpose. Now we get retired Major Generals asking for more money which I'm sure they need but I wouldn't trust the Procurement folk with the tuck shop money!! Rewarded with an index linked final salary pension and a non executive directorship with a favourable contractor. Just as an aside, Ajax was originally started as a concept over 20 years ago, go back a generation or two, we went from Sherman to Chieftain in that time frame. |
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 30, 2023 13:59:26 GMT
What really gets me going is that there appears on the face of it to be no consequences,if I had blown a £100k of my annual budget without being able to account for success or improvements the exit door would have flashed up . It's not only the sheer waste but : We don't seem to learn The delays are breathtaking. Equipment is either then obsolete or not fit for purpose. Now we get retired Major Generals asking for more money which I'm sure they need but I wouldn't trust the Procurement folk with the tuck shop money!! Rewarded with an index linked final salary pension and a non executive directorship with a favourable contractor. Just as an aside, Ajax was originally started as a concept over 20 years ago, go back a generation or two, we went from Sherman to Chieftain in that time frame. It's shocking Stuart,who runs forces procurement is it just the Civil Service or a combo of them and Snr Officers if the latter were f.....g doomed!! |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 30, 2023 14:20:40 GMT
Rewarded with an index linked final salary pension and a non executive directorship with a favourable contractor. Just as an aside, Ajax was originally started as a concept over 20 years ago, go back a generation or two, we went from Sherman to Chieftain in that time frame. It's shocking Stuart,who runs forces procurement is it just the Civil Service or a combo of them and Snr Officers if the latter were f.....g doomed!! Both. There is the money, or at least there has been, but the army in particular has messed up big time, especially in the last 15-20 years. Too many people moving roles and not seeing things through to completion so no ownership, changing specifications rather than off the shelf, the list goes on. Retention of regiments for political reasons and an unclear road map of what they want to achieve hasn't helped either. The army, apart from a few niche areas, is pretty irrelevant even in a European context. They've been poorly served by their very senior officers. Fwiw, the Navy and RAF got themselves in order and remain at the top of their game. Whilst they could do with more, they are capable of things few others are. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 30, 2023 16:26:42 GMT
Something is going on. 🤔
"The Commissioner for Public Appointments has removed himself from the investigation into the appointment of the BBC's chairman after revealing he has met with him "on previous occasions".
William Shawcross confirmed last week that he would be leading the probe into the hiring of Richard Sharp following reports the chairman had helped Boris Johnson secure a loan.
But just seven days later, Mr Shawcross has written to the chair of the digital, culture, media and sport committee, saying he will be handing the case over to an "independent person".
Labour's shadow culture secretary Lucy Powell - who called for the investigation - hit out at the timing of Mr Shawcross' decision, tweeting: "It's taken him a week to realise a conflict of interest, sharing these cosy relationships.
"The truth must come out about this appointment." "
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Post by yattongas on Jan 30, 2023 16:43:04 GMT
Something is going on. 🤔 "The Commissioner for Public Appointments has removed himself from the investigation into the appointment of the BBC's chairman after revealing he has met with him "on previous occasions". William Shawcross confirmed last week that he would be leading the probe into the hiring of Richard Sharp following reports the chairman had helped Boris Johnson secure a loan. But just seven days later, Mr Shawcross has written to the chair of the digital, culture, media and sport committee, saying he will be handing the case over to an "independent person". Labour's shadow culture secretary Lucy Powell - who called for the investigation - hit out at the timing of Mr Shawcross' decision, tweeting: "It's taken him a week to realise a conflict of interest, sharing these cosy relationships. "The truth must come out about this appointment." " It’s a shame that these ‘independent’ people are very rarely independent. Just look at the pay review bodies , stuffed full of their mates 🙄 |
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 30, 2023 16:58:56 GMT
It's shocking Stuart,who runs forces procurement is it just the Civil Service or a combo of them and Snr Officers if the latter were f.....g doomed!! Both. There is the money, or at least there has been, but the army in particular has messed up big time, especially in the last 15-20 years. Too many people moving roles and not seeing things through to completion so no ownership, changing specifications rather than off the shelf, the list goes on. Retention of regiments for political reasons and an unclear road map of what they want to achieve hasn't helped either. The army, apart from a few niche areas, is pretty irrelevant even in a European context. They've been poorly served by their very senior officers. Fwiw, the Navy and RAF got themselves in order and remain at the top of their game. Whilst they could do with more, they are capable of things few others are. Worst of all worlds,bare faced cheek of the Army to ask for more when they can't do the basics right. |
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Post by aghast on Jan 30, 2023 23:32:07 GMT
Regardless of the underlying reasons, I cannot think of one single thing that has improved since the Brexit vote and its' management by our Tory leaders. Unless you consider Brexit in itself, regardless of how flawed and bungled it's been, as an improvement.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 31, 2023 10:19:02 GMT
JRM suggesting that it's not bullying, people are just snowflakey. 😳 "I think we've got to be slightly careful about the bullying allegations," the senior Conservative MP said. "We mustn't be too snowflaky about it. "People need to be able to say this job has not been done well enough and needs to be done better. "It's a very difficult line to judge. It's not a straightforward issue in most cases. It's how did somebody react, what did somebody say, is it reasonable to demand from senior and well-paid professionals a level of good service? "And then you have to judge whether that line has been overstepped. But I do worry we are getting a bit snowflakey about this." news.sky.com/story/jacob-rees-mogg-says-people-are-getting-snowflaky-about-bullying-allegations-levelled-at-government-ministers-12799696 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 2, 2023 20:01:39 GMT
Something's afoot. "The Conservative Growth Group - a group of Tory MPs who still believe in Ms Truss's vision for the UK - appears determined to turn up the pressure on the current Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, as sources familiar with the WhatsApp group told Sky News: "There's a lot going on behind the scenes." " news.sky.com/story/low-tax-tories-reignite-liz-truss-whatsapp-group-12801586 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 5, 2023 20:14:38 GMT
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Post by aghast on Feb 5, 2023 22:46:16 GMT
Never understood the Scots wanting independence, apart from some ill defined historical hatred of England, whilst at the same time wanting to be integrated into the EU.
If the UK is like a mini EU, with open borders, trade, freedom of movement and help for poorer nations, England is like Germany and Scotland is like Greece.
Actually I get it now.
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 6, 2023 13:49:09 GMT
Caught a bit of Politics Live today, Caroline Noakes is in the wrong party. She said that Sunak is holding himself a hostage to fortune over his Channel boat crossing pledge and the comments about withdrawal from the ECHR is just pandering to a few of her colleagues. Also that there is no simple solution but lots of small scale items to reduce.
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 6, 2023 13:54:12 GMT
Never understood the Scots wanting independence, apart from some ill defined historical hatred of England, whilst at the same time wanting to be integrated into the EU. If the UK is like a mini EU, with open borders, trade, freedom of movement and help for poorer nations, England is like Germany and Scotland is like Greece. Actually I get it now. Yep, double standards and hypocrisy in much of the Yes camp, they'd have less economic freedom than now whichever route they chose - Sterling, Euro or a new currency. I had a similar issue with Nobby and Brexit, he was adamant of staying in Nato which has dictated so much of out defence and security choices. Very analogous imo but was contrary to the argument. |
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Post by aghast on Feb 7, 2023 0:02:05 GMT
Never understood the Scots wanting independence, apart from some ill defined historical hatred of England, whilst at the same time wanting to be integrated into the EU. If the UK is like a mini EU, with open borders, trade, freedom of movement and help for poorer nations, England is like Germany and Scotland is like Greece. Actually I get it now. Yep, double standards and hypocrisy in much of the Yes camp, they'd have less economic freedom than now whichever route they chose - Sterling, Euro or a new currency. I had a similar issue with Nobby and Brexit, he was adamant of staying in Nato which has dictated so much of out defence and security choices. Very analogous imo but was contrary to the argument. For some, it's not really about what's right or wrong, good or bad for the country. It's about personal prejudice and favouritism. |
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Post by yattongas on Feb 7, 2023 14:37:49 GMT
This must be a wind up surely?
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 7, 2023 15:09:15 GMT
Desperation. The local elections in May are likely to make the position of Chairman and those associated with it a poisoned chalice.
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 7, 2023 17:00:35 GMT
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