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Post by matealotblue on Sept 19, 2020 16:03:19 GMT
Starnes on the phone around 83 mins apparently. Durden quipped about it being about transfers. I bloody hope it was Wael pulling the trigger Long way away from that yet. I suspect Wael will want to save face so will give golden bollocks plenty of time to figure out how to manage a team. Yeh....but why this team? Can he not find him another one to learn with 🙄
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Post by axegas on Sept 19, 2020 16:03:46 GMT
Utterly abysmal performance that. Came into it, really optimistic we would improve on our last performance against Ipswich, after looking a lot more solid at Sunderland and having Jaakkola and Hanlan to bolster us but we were poorer than the cup game in the end.
Offered zilch going forward, especially in the second half where the strikers were isolated and given no service, got dominated in the midfield and conceded two sloppy goals that could of been prevented to lose it.
Garner looked like he had no plan B, waited too long to make substitutions which didn’t have much of a bearing on the game.
Very disappointed by our showing.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 19, 2020 16:04:08 GMT
Long way away from that yet. I suspect Wael will want to save face so will give golden bollocks plenty of time to figure out how to manage a team. Yeh....but why this team? Can he not find him another one to learn with 🙄 Under 18s he’s a good coach with kids? More his level?
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 19, 2020 16:05:04 GMT
Think we can write this one off as a friendly tbh Not fair to judge him on a game with no fans tbh. Give him 10 games. Whoever sang 3 is the magic number was taking the water. 10 is the magic number! Give him 10 games and it'll be like watching Bayern Munich Thats rubbish, no one has any fans attending
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 19, 2020 16:05:21 GMT
Not fair to judge him on a game with no fans tbh. Give him 10 games. Whoever sang 3 is the magic number was taking the water. 10 is the magic number! Give him 10 games and it'll be like watching Bayern Munich Thats rubbish, no one has any fans attending WHOOOOOSH
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Post by oldgas on Sept 19, 2020 16:06:00 GMT
Their 2 goals came from us being too weak in midfield and losing the ball. They attacked quickly, cut through the channel and bang. In the net.
I didn't understand the like for like subs either. Why not go 2 big lads up front instead of taking Hanlon off. Also Tutonga for Leahey changed nothing. Strange.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Sept 19, 2020 16:06:21 GMT
Gas round-up of this summers departures:
Nichols scored, whilst Sam Matthews and Craig started for Crawley in a 1-0 win.
Mennayese had a disappointing game against Orient. Ollie Clarke captained Mansfield as they drew 2-2 after being 2-0 up.
Sercombe played as Cheltenham smashed Tranmere 3-0.
Reilly got 6 minutes for Carlisle.
JCH played the full 90 as Pboro came from being to win 2-1 with two injury time goals.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 16:06:46 GMT
Why does BG just not do the decent thing and admit he knows f**k all about tactics,the way to play and football in general and walk we are getting nowhere with this clown in charge You wonder how pathetic his win ratio has to be before he admits he’s crap.
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Post by olskooltoteender on Sept 19, 2020 16:06:51 GMT
For me this illustrates why some of us felt that even with his own players it doesn’t change that Garner is fundamentally a poor manager at this point in his career. Last season we nearly set a record of minutes without a goal, he’s now got his own players, had a lot of time on the training pitch and yet we can still barely muster an attack worthy of the name. 2 goals in 4 competitive games and one of those was a penalty. You can give him all the players you like he hasn’t got the nous to make a cohesive whole. Noooooooooo! G-G-GDL . . . G-G-GDL . . . G-G-GDL . . . #GarnerDefenceLeague #TenMoreGames #GarnerForever #AndEver #OurBen
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Post by dmacca65 on Sept 19, 2020 16:08:04 GMT
Not an insignificant cup game, unfortunately same result!
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Post by Qatar Gas on Sept 19, 2020 16:08:32 GMT
Not expecting anything next week so Northampton will be a must win game. In fact, October is now a crucial month for BG. If he fails to get some wins out of those games then there really is no hope.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 16:08:34 GMT
Get him gone now please. Was willing to give him another shot after last season’s disgrace but it’s clear there has been no change whatsoever. ‘Garnerball’, strange thing to call hoofball.
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Post by casey12a on Sept 19, 2020 16:08:45 GMT
It's just a continuation of last season under BG, not really a surprise. It was gamble that hasn't paid off. Being somebody else in now before the season is a write off.
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Post by pirate on Sept 19, 2020 16:09:20 GMT
Get Nigel Clough in before someone else snaps him up.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 19, 2020 16:09:51 GMT
Ten games start from when the orange ball is used.white balls are training sessions so dont count
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Post by wsmjohn on Sept 19, 2020 16:10:19 GMT
Ben changed the system last season when we were third in league, excuse was he did not have the players to play his system after we went on an abysmal run and could have gone down. Ben is not a manager, sorry but we will not improve with him in charge.
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Post by northridinggas on Sept 19, 2020 16:11:39 GMT
How many goals from open play have we scored since Garner has been here?
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Post by neogas on Sept 19, 2020 16:11:42 GMT
The signs were there in the first half when Ipswich got between the defence and midfield far too easily. Ehmer played the man a few times in the first half and could have got us into trouble. 1 up top wasn't working with zero hold up to bring the two attacking midfielders in. We have a great Keeper and right back on the showing so far this season. Ipswich were poor too until their substitutions, but both goals came from losing possession in midified, first Grant and then Upson. I really like the look of Westbrook, but he was wasted as a 10. JML was completely anonymous. Kilgour looks off the pace. I don't see Garners plan here. The game needed changing at half time. We made the wrong changes too late. I can't help feeling that we allowed Ipswich to take the initiative with their substitutions. Everything about the setup today on and off the pitch was reactive. We did not try to change the game to make things happen.
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Post by gas74 on Sept 19, 2020 16:12:58 GMT
It was very poor today, seems if a team press high on us our passing game go's out the window, every team will do this, we looked good against Cheltenham when they sat off and possibly the Cardiff friendly but it ain't real life. Every player looked isolated today with no team cohesion, no game plan. I hope we improve bet so far no good signs.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Sept 19, 2020 16:13:18 GMT
Ben Garner has managed us for 22 games. "10 more games" will not help him. We need to get rid now, sadly. He's recruited very well, get someone in who can utilise this bunch of players.
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