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Post by orgasmic on Dec 21, 2015 18:43:28 GMT
Don't think anything will happen until after the appeal.
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Post by Big Jock on Dec 21, 2015 19:51:47 GMT
Don't think anything will happen until after the appeal. Wow - Did ye go tae Oxford or Cambridge pal?
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Post by peterpirate on Dec 21, 2015 20:03:34 GMT
He's not going to uwe
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 20:23:04 GMT
3 Months and 4700 replies later, and still silence. These must be the longest talks in history... Never heard my ex on the phone then. I did, and at 1.20 per minute, she wasn't worth it!
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Post by orgasmic on Dec 21, 2015 20:42:42 GMT
Don't think anything will happen until after the appeal. Wow - Did ye go tae Oxford or Cambridge pal? Oxford...why?
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Post by aghast on Dec 21, 2015 21:10:17 GMT
Wow - Did ye go tae Oxford or Cambridge pal? Oxford...why? I think Big Jock is suggesting that you do not need the privilege of studying at one of those two fine universities to know that nothing is going to happen until the result of the appeal.
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Post by orgasmic on Dec 21, 2015 21:12:01 GMT
I think Big Jock is suggesting that you do not need the privilege of studying at one of those two fine universities to know that nothing is going to happen until the result of the appeal. I'd picked up on that. My post was simply suggesting nothing is going to happen so surprised the speculation continues.
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Post by banjoflyer on Dec 21, 2015 21:42:54 GMT
If NH really believed the contract was dead and the appeal woulf fail he could have called the project dead and saved face by blaming the greens/trash/carstairs/shamesbury's with some justification and not "invested" more money and energy in continuing the fight.
He didn't, why?
Either the advice was so strong as to suggest chances of success on appeal were high from the legal advisors or there is some other motive. Whatever anyone says I for one do not think he would risk the future of the club on fight he knew he could not win.
Maybe, just maybe, one of the interested parties have suggested that it is worth the punt to spend a few hundred grand on the appeal that might bring £30m plus or possibly an offer of some out of court settlement. A price may be on offer that varies depending on the result of the appeal.
I'm not ITK but there must surely be some strategy and reasoning here from our majority owner as otherwise the evidence shows we could be in serious financial difficulty if the court rules against us.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 21, 2015 21:53:05 GMT
If NH really believed the contract was dead and the appeal woulf fail he could have called the project dead and saved face by blaming the greens/trash/carstairs/shamesbury's with some justification and not "invested" more money and energy in continuing the fight. He didn't, why? Either the advice was so strong as to suggest chances of success on appeal were high from the legal advisors or there is some other motive. Whatever anyone says I for one do not think he would risk the future of the club on fight he knew he could not win. Maybe, just maybe, one of the interested parties have suggested that it is worth the punt to spend a few hundred grand on the appeal that might bring £30m plus or possibly an offer of some out of court settlement. A price may be on offer that varies depending on the result of the appeal. I'm not ITK but there must surely be some strategy and reasoning here from our majority owner as otherwise the evidence shows we could be in serious financial difficulty if the court rules against us. I'd love to think you are right. Strategy and reasoning historically hasn't been so great though.
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Post by justin blue on Dec 21, 2015 21:56:34 GMT
If NH really believed the contract was dead and the appeal woulf fail he could have called the project dead and saved face by blaming the greens/trash/carstairs/shamesbury's with some justification and not "invested" more money and energy in continuing the fight. He didn't, why? Either the advice was so strong as to suggest chances of success on appeal were high from the legal advisors or there is some other motive. Whatever anyone says I for one do not think he would risk the future of the club on fight he knew he could not win. Maybe, just maybe, one of the interested parties have suggested that it is worth the punt to spend a few hundred grand on the appeal that might bring £30m plus or possibly an offer of some out of court settlement. A price may be on offer that varies depending on the result of the appeal. I'm not ITK but there must surely be some strategy and reasoning here from our majority owner as otherwise the evidence shows we could be in serious financial difficulty if the court rules against us. I am probably more optimistic than many on here, but you do realise you are talking about the man who went to court believing we had a watertight contract.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2015 22:01:27 GMT
If NH really believed the contract was dead and the appeal woulf fail he could have called the project dead and saved face by blaming the greens/trash/carstairs/shamesbury's with some justification and not "invested" more money and energy in continuing the fight. He didn't, why? Either the advice was so strong as to suggest chances of success on appeal were high from the legal advisors or there is some other motive. Whatever anyone says I for one do not think he would risk the future of the club on fight he knew he could not win. Maybe, just maybe, one of the interested parties have suggested that it is worth the punt to spend a few hundred grand on the appeal that might bring £30m plus or possibly an offer of some out of court settlement. A price may be on offer that varies depending on the result of the appeal. I'm not ITK but there must surely be some strategy and reasoning here from our majority owner as otherwise the evidence shows we could be in serious financial difficulty if the court rules against us. In my defence of Higgs, I think he was badly advised in the beginning of all this and those that advised him then are still being listened to now. He is in too deep as they say.
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Post by banjoflyer on Dec 21, 2015 22:04:53 GMT
If NH really believed the contract was dead and the appeal woulf fail he could have called the project dead and saved face by blaming the greens/trash/carstairs/shamesbury's with some justification and not "invested" more money and energy in continuing the fight. He didn't, why? Either the advice was so strong as to suggest chances of success on appeal were high from the legal advisors or there is some other motive. Whatever anyone says I for one do not think he would risk the future of the club on fight he knew he could not win. Maybe, just maybe, one of the interested parties have suggested that it is worth the punt to spend a few hundred grand on the appeal that might bring £30m plus or possibly an offer of some out of court settlement. A price may be on offer that varies depending on the result of the appeal. I'm not ITK but there must surely be some strategy and reasoning here from our majority owner as otherwise the evidence shows we could be in serious financial difficulty if the court rules against us. I am probably more optimistic than many on here, but you do realise you are talking about the man who went to court believing we had a watertight contract. Well it would be brainless to go to court knowing you were going to lose. You have to think that his legal advice suggested a strong case. That proved wrong, but I sure hope the current advice is stronger otherwise I sure hope there is good reason for it.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Dec 21, 2015 22:07:12 GMT
I am probably more optimistic than many on here, but you do realise you are talking about the man who went to court believing we had a watertight contract. Well it would be brainless to go to court knowing you were going to lose. You have to think that his legal advice suggested a strong case. That proved wrong, but I sure hope the current advice is stronger otherwise I sure hope there is good reason for it. it's the ambiguous nature of the original judgement that gives us hope of winning the appeal, how many appeals of this kind are successful though, i'm guessing 25%? In for a penny though.
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Post by justin blue on Dec 21, 2015 22:16:20 GMT
I am probably more optimistic than many on here, but you do realise you are talking about the man who went to court believing we had a watertight contract. Well it would be brainless to go to court knowing you were going to lose. You have to think that his legal advice suggested a strong case. That proved wrong, but I sure hope the current advice is stronger otherwise I sure hope there is good reason for it. I think NH believes that we have a good chance of winning. I worry that the people who have given him that belief are a legal team who stand to make money out of the appeal whichever way it goes.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 21, 2015 22:17:48 GMT
Well it would be brainless to go to court knowing you were going to lose. You have to think that his legal advice suggested a strong case. That proved wrong, but I sure hope the current advice is stronger otherwise I sure hope there is good reason for it. it's the ambiguous nature of the original judgement that gives us hope of winning the appeal, how many appeals of this kind are successful though, i'm guessing 25%? In for a penny though. No need to guess, its 0%. That's why this case could potentially set a precedent. No one has successfully challenged a supermarket yet. So far the supermarkets have completely gotten away with this sh**. If we won it could open a floodgate. That's why I still feel an 11th hour out of court deal is the most likely outcome.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 21, 2015 22:30:14 GMT
Problem is NH has to beat a mega supermarket whilst also apparently re-writing UK contract law, also any hope of an 11th hour out of court deal evaporated for me when the news of the latest charge on the Mem broke, as that suggests to me Sainsbury's are now going for the jugular vain.
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Post by mjhgas on Dec 21, 2015 22:51:52 GMT
City fans are excited: 28 minutes ago, SirColinOfMansfield said: No sooner than the Memorial Stadium gets listed as an Asset of Community Value, Higgs' solicitors have just given the council notice that they intend to sell up! So the plot thickens ... just days after Sainsbury's register a charge on the ground! beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04501223/filing-historyHow long will it take before one of the sags reads it on here and their forums go into meltdown ..... again?! OTIB ... always first with the breaking :gasmask: news!
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Post by kruger on Dec 22, 2015 1:05:17 GMT
He intends to sale to the consortium yes?
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 22, 2015 1:17:13 GMT
City fans are excited: 28 minutes ago, SirColinOfMansfield said: No sooner than the Memorial Stadium gets listed as an Asset of Community Value, Higgs' solicitors have just given the council notice that they intend to sell up! So the plot thickens ... just days after Sainsbury's register a charge on the ground! beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04501223/filing-historyHow long will it take before one of the sags reads it on here and their forums go into meltdown ..... again?! OTIB ... always first with the breaking :gasmask: news! Not sure what he's getting at?? It's common knowledge we are selling the mem. If not to Sainsburys if they get out of the contract, then we will try and sell elsewhere. How is he breaking new news???
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Post by kruger on Dec 22, 2015 2:30:21 GMT
City fans are excited: 28 minutes ago, SirColinOfMansfield said: No sooner than the Memorial Stadium gets listed as an Asset of Community Value, Higgs' solicitors have just given the council notice that they intend to sell up! So the plot thickens ... just days after Sainsbury's register a charge on the ground! beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04501223/filing-historyHow long will it take before one of the sags reads it on here and their forums go into meltdown ..... again?! OTIB ... always first with the breaking :gasmask: news! Not sure what he's getting at?? It's common knowledge we are selling the mem. If not to Sainsburys if they get out of the contract, then we will try and sell elsewhere. How is he breaking new news??? exactly what I thought, why are the 82ers getting excited, boring lives I expect.
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