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Post by gasincider on Feb 22, 2015 9:08:40 GMT
Whilst I don't care from now on what we play like as long as we win, why is it for about the last five years, we have continually committed the same crappy act during play.
I mean our pathetic throw ins. Why do we continue to throw the ball down the line straight to the opposition. Yesterday, we broke our record since a group of us have kept count. Seven, YES, SEVEN throw ins in a row went straight to the opposition. Yet every time Altrincham had the throw in, it was invariably thrown to one of their own and played away.
What is so difficult in throwing it to one of our own? We rarely if ever take advantage of the most simple way of retaining possession.
As for Mildenhall, if he can't throw the ball out, drop him. His distribution is awful, and he is no longer good enough to retain his place. He no longer commands his area, and looks extremely weak in defending set pieces, and as for his wall building, our local plumber could build a better one.
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Feb 22, 2015 9:16:34 GMT
Good point - we don't get a) enough options i.e. players available and b) not nearly enough movement to improve out chances of gaining an advantage. It's not like it's something we can't work on in training ?
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Post by laughingas on Feb 22, 2015 9:56:04 GMT
Three cleansheets in a row.....yep lets drop the keeper......continuing stupidity!
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Post by gasincider on Feb 22, 2015 10:36:49 GMT
Why not. He dropped Puddy after 4 clean sheets. Or was it one in four?
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Post by truegas on Feb 22, 2015 10:41:54 GMT
100% agree about throw-in. This has been the case since under Trollope in the relegation year. We just don't seem to know what to do, especially back then players used to freeze and it seemed like they were thinking ''ahh, what happens now? Don't throw it to me, please please please not me!''. I'm very confident that Clarke will get this sorted though when it's highlighted to him (admittedly it shouldn't have to be highlighted to him, but he's got most other things right, so I can't really wack it!!).
100% disagree about MILDENHALL, MIILDENHALL!! I love the bloke... Since he's been with us, he's dramatically reduced my chances of sudden heart attack. I was on the edge of one every time Phillips went to catch it/kick it. Not much better with keepers since!!
How many clean sheets did we keep last season (despite relegation)? Our attack was a joke, that's why we went down, nothing to do with our defence. And this season? Solid as you like!! Stick with Mildenhall until he retires I say, he's quality!
Let's pray to Irene for another 3 points Tuesday!!
UTG!
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Post by supergas on Feb 22, 2015 12:23:04 GMT
Why not. He dropped Puddy after 4 clean sheets. Or was it one in four? As I always say, we should be picking the players, formation and tactics based on the opposition for that game. Mildy is stronger against certain types of attack, Puddy is better against others. Pick based on the challenge in that 90 mins.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 12:40:50 GMT
Good point - we don't get a) enough options i.e. players available and b) not nearly enough movement to improve out chances of gaining an advantage. It's not like it's something we can't work on in training ? Need to get Vaughan "hold it" Jones along to a training session. He used to get the players standing on the exact blade of grass he wanted before taking a throw in.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Feb 22, 2015 13:07:54 GMT
Good point - we don't get a) enough options i.e. players available and b) not nearly enough movement to improve out chances of gaining an advantage. It's not like it's something we can't work on in training ? Need to get Vaughan "hold it" Jones along to a training session. He used to get the players standing on the exact blade of grass he wanted before taking a throw in. I think a dedicated throw in coach is a bit of an expensive luxury at conference level But if we were to get a one off session set up with Rory Delap I'd pay his bus fare....they may not always be thrown to our players but the ball would always end up a lot nearer their goal than ours!!
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Post by surreygas on Feb 22, 2015 13:22:34 GMT
Why not. He dropped Puddy after 4 clean sheets. Or was it one in four? As I always say, we should be picking the players, formation and tactics based on the opposition for that game. Mildy is stronger against certain types of attack, Puddy is better against others. Pick based on the challenge in that 90 mins. I think we are fortunate to have 2 very competent keepers. Puddy's distribution is better but I feel more comfortable with Mildy in goal as I think he is a better shot stopper and commands his area better.
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Post by empirebaypete on Feb 22, 2015 20:29:06 GMT
Good point - we don't get a) enough options i.e. players available and b) not nearly enough movement to improve out chances of gaining an advantage. It's not like it's something we can't work on in training ? Need to get Vaughan "hold it" Jones along to a training session. He used to get the players standing on the exact blade of grass he wanted before taking a throw in. I remember at Twerton once. The ball went out and someone came across to take the throw (can't remember who). At which point VJ arrived to take it but the player didn't want to hand the ball over. Queue Ollie yelling. "Give it to him". Player still holds ball. "Give it to him". Player still holds ball. "Dam give it to him. Player reluctantly gives ball to VJ. I thought this thread was going to be about C*ty before I opened it.
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Post by stokegiffordgas on Feb 22, 2015 20:39:24 GMT
One position you don't chop and change is the keeper - unless you are like Chelsea and blessed with 2 superior custodians. Goalies marshal their back 4 in their individual ways and is only likely to add confusion. Plus mildy right now has the edge in both ability and experience imho, though at this level I won't dispute puddy is a real luxury as a second option.
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Post by supergas on Feb 23, 2015 1:28:19 GMT
As I always say, we should be picking the players, formation and tactics based on the opposition for that game. Mildy is stronger against certain types of attack, Puddy is better against others. Pick based on the challenge in that 90 mins. I think we are fortunate to have 2 very competent keepers. Puddy's distribution is better but I feel more comfortable with Mildy in goal as I think he is a better shot stopper and commands his area better. Exactly my point, especially in this league. I'd be playing Mildy against the 'better teams' and Puddy against the weaker ones, as I agree with your analysis. Mildy's better against better attacks (although 'command of the area' seems to have disappeared lately), but Puddy is better at starting quick attacks against 'weaker teams'.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 23, 2015 9:03:57 GMT
3 straight wins/clean sheets and so now it's time to drop our goalie - madness!!
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Post by supergas on Feb 23, 2015 9:16:38 GMT
3 straight wins/clean sheets and so now it's time to drop our goalie - madness!! Why? We/most of us trust Darrell Clarke to pick the formation, the defenders to play in that formation, the midfielders and the strikers. Why not pick the goalie based on what he sees in training and who we're playing against?
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Feb 23, 2015 10:17:42 GMT
Why not. He dropped Puddy after 4 clean sheets. Or was it one in four? As I always say, we should be picking the players, formation and tactics based on the opposition for that game. Mildy is stronger against certain types of attack, Puddy is better against others. Pick based on the challenge in that 90 mins. Changing keepers all the time is not the way forward IMO. As little change as possible at the back so they have a good understanding.
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Post by stevek192 on Feb 23, 2015 10:23:17 GMT
You have answered your own question there. Clarke has made his position clear on the Goalkeeping position. Mildy is his number one and barring a complete loss of form which 3 clean sheets doesn't suggest then he will hold the position until the end of the season. Defenders get used to a goalkeeper and when they are all performing well they should not be changed and I include in this Leadbitter when Sinclair returns. There is no reason to mess about with the defence at the moment but we will have to trust DC on that.
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Post by socrates on Feb 23, 2015 13:19:59 GMT
Why not. He dropped Puddy after 4 clean sheets. Or was it one in four? As I always say, we should be picking the players, formation and tactics based on the opposition for that game. Mildy is stronger against certain types of attack, Puddy is better against others. Pick based on the challenge in that 90 mins. Not with Keepers. You chose your number 1 and don't change it about based on opposition.
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