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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 17, 2024 13:34:29 GMT
Front 3 of Hutch, Martin and Shaq are a good balance together each offering something different.
Positionally, PO and RS don't yet seem to know what they should be doing or effective at anything in particular.
A back 4 gives us better balance but a matter of working out the best personel to play it. Good to see CT start to regain some form.
Griffiths is a good enough keeper.
Central midfield simply doesn't work. Lindsey is OK at late runs into the box but he's flappy reciving the ball. Conteh and Ward really need to be driving on and imposing a bit more.
Sinclair and LMc are better suited to being the most forward central midfielder behind a front 2.
Bilongo needs to keep it simple when in own half. Thomas is OK if out wide.
Biggest concern with the midfield is how bad they are as a unit passing and reciving the ball.
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Post by baggins on Nov 17, 2024 13:39:20 GMT
Front 3 of Hutch, Martin and Shaq are a good balance together each offering something different. Positionally, PO and RS don't yet seem to know what they should be doing or effective at anything in particular. A back 4 gives us better balance but a matter of working out the best personel to play it. Good to see CT start to regain some form. Griffiths is a good enough keeper. Central midfield simply doesn't work. Lindsey is OK at late runs into the box but he's flappy reciving the ball. Conteh and Ward really need to be driving on and imposing a bit more. Sinclair and LMc are better suited to being the most forward central midfielder behind a front 2. Bilongo needs to keep it simple when in own half. Thomas is OK if out wide. Biggest concern with the midfield is how bad they are as a unit passing and reciving the ball. Not sure Martin is up to speed, and not convinced he will be again. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 17, 2024 13:49:46 GMT
Front 3 of Hutch, Martin and Shaq are a good balance together each offering something different. Positionally, PO and RS don't yet seem to know what they should be doing or effective at anything in particular. A back 4 gives us better balance but a matter of working out the best personel to play it. Good to see CT start to regain some form. Griffiths is a good enough keeper. Central midfield simply doesn't work. Lindsey is OK at late runs into the box but he's flappy reciving the ball. Conteh and Ward really need to be driving on and imposing a bit more. Sinclair and LMc are better suited to being the most forward central midfielder behind a front 2. Bilongo needs to keep it simple when in own half. Thomas is OK if out wide. Biggest concern with the midfield is how bad they are as a unit passing and reciving the ball. Not sure Martin is up to speed, and not convinced he will be again. No offence to the guy but he does look a good stone overweight. Let’s just say he fills his shirt more than amply. |
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Post by eric on Nov 17, 2024 14:13:27 GMT
Front 3 of Hutch, Martin and Shaq are a good balance together each offering something different. Positionally, PO and RS don't yet seem to know what they should be doing or effective at anything in particular. A back 4 gives us better balance but a matter of working out the best personel to play it. Good to see CT start to regain some form. Griffiths is a good enough keeper. Central midfield simply doesn't work. Lindsey is OK at late runs into the box but he's flappy reciving the ball. Conteh and Ward really need to be driving on and imposing a bit more. Sinclair and LMc are better suited to being the most forward central midfielder behind a front 2. Bilongo needs to keep it simple when in own half. Thomas is OK if out wide. Biggest concern with the midfield is how bad they are as a unit passing and reciving the ball. Not sure Martin is up to speed, and not convinced he will be again. Agree. He did a great job for us last season but an another year added, a few extra pounds and a nasty injury to overcome make him less effective this year. He should have been able to slip into being a squad player and someone whose experience we can utilise late in games after we spent £1/2m on a new striker - although it’s still early days PO hasn’t quite shown what we all hoped so far. With CM up front our ability to press and stretch the opposition and play aggressively is very blunted. |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 17, 2024 14:13:46 GMT
Front 3 of Hutch, Martin and Shaq are a good balance together each offering something different. Positionally, PO and RS don't yet seem to know what they should be doing or effective at anything in particular. A back 4 gives us better balance but a matter of working out the best personel to play it. Good to see CT start to regain some form. Griffiths is a good enough keeper. Central midfield simply doesn't work. Lindsey is OK at late runs into the box but he's flappy reciving the ball. Conteh and Ward really need to be driving on and imposing a bit more. Sinclair and LMc are better suited to being the most forward central midfielder behind a front 2. Bilongo needs to keep it simple when in own half. Thomas is OK if out wide. Biggest concern with the midfield is how bad they are as a unit passing and reciving the ball. Not too fussed who plays tbh. Whoever it is needs to learn how to look after the ball, move off of the ball, and make better decisions. Aside from patches of good play, our side looks like strangers making amateur mistakes. We have some decent players but application is poor. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 17, 2024 14:36:57 GMT
Not sure Martin is up to speed, and not convinced he will be again. Agree. He did a great job for us last season but an another year added, a few extra pounds and a nasty injury to overcome make him less effective this year. He should have been able to slip into being a squad player and someone whose experience we can utilise late in games after we spent £1/2m on a new striker - although it’s still early days PO hasn’t quite shown what we all hoped so far. With CM up front our ability to press and stretch the opposition and play aggressively is very blunted. Think we're missing O'Donker who looked better than anticipated before his injury? I've no idea how RS got called up again as he's been poor all season, unless Cyprus are desperate for strikers. |
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Post by trickortreat on Nov 17, 2024 16:43:44 GMT
Front 3 of Hutch, Martin and Shaq are a good balance together each offering something different. Positionally, PO and RS don't yet seem to know what they should be doing or effective at anything in particular. A back 4 gives us better balance but a matter of working out the best personel to play it. Good to see CT start to regain some form. Griffiths is a good enough keeper. Central midfield simply doesn't work. Lindsey is OK at late runs into the box but he's flappy reciving the ball. Conteh and Ward really need to be driving on and imposing a bit more. Sinclair and LMc are better suited to being the most forward central midfielder behind a front 2. Bilongo needs to keep it simple when in own half. Thomas is OK if out wide. Biggest concern with the midfield is how bad they are as a unit passing and reciving the ball. Not sure Martin is up to speed, and not convinced he will be again. Rubbish. Martin's game doesn't prioritise pace. He is a super old fashioned centre forward who needs pace around him. He's still good enough to have a big impact in this team. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 17, 2024 17:03:49 GMT
Not sure Martin is up to speed, and not convinced he will be again. Rubbish. Martin's game doesn't prioritise pace. He is a super old fashioned centre forward who needs pace around him. He's still good enough to have a big impact in this team. Agreed but he’s still carrying more timber than last season which isn’t going to help . |
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Post by trickortreat on Nov 17, 2024 17:40:45 GMT
Rubbish. Martin's game doesn't prioritise pace. He is a super old fashioned centre forward who needs pace around him. He's still good enough to have a big impact in this team. Agreed but he’s still carrying more timber than last season which isn’t going to help in. Shock horror. He's hardly played for the past 6 months so won't be 100% until another month or so yet. Even until then he still has a lot to offer IMO. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 17, 2024 21:21:29 GMT
Rubbish. Martin's game doesn't prioritise pace. He is a super old fashioned centre forward who needs pace around him. He's still good enough to have a big impact in this team. Agreed but he’s still carrying more timber than last season which isn’t going to help . CM has been like that throughout his career. I must admit I thought his broken leg would be the end of his career. Good that he's back so soon. Notice he created the best chance for Sinclair and how lost we were for shape we were once he and Hutch went off. |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 18, 2024 10:00:19 GMT
Imo Chris Martin is a top player, he is strong, has presence, wins the ball, brings players into the game, lays it off, scores goals, and hard as nails, perfect for division 1; far better than that Promise, who will not jump, wont put his foot in, cant turn, so slow, does not look interested, awful first touch, and is not natural goal scorer. Chris Martin is my first name on the Team sheet, followed by Wilson and when fit Hunt.
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 18, 2024 10:25:26 GMT
Personally, I think Lindsay has done okay, and certainly better than Ward so far this season.
We haven't got a single striker that is scoring goals or playing well at the moment. I've shared my thoughts on Promise in another thread, but Martin has lost another yard of pace since his injury, Sotiriou has done very little, and Gats hasn't had a run in the side, mainly due to injury.
I'd like to see a front 4 of:
Forde, McCormick, Hutchinson
O'Donker
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Post by Quarters on Nov 18, 2024 10:59:01 GMT
Personally, I think Lindsay has done okay, and certainly better than Ward so far this season. We haven't got a single striker that is scoring goals or playing well at the moment. I've shared my thoughts on Promise in another thread, but Martin has lost another yard of pace since his injury, Sotiriou has done very little, and Gats hasn't had a run in the side, mainly due to injury. I'd like to see a front 4 of: Forde, McCormick, Hutchinson O'Donker Forde, McCormick, Hutchinson all missed chances this weekend, hopefully they can start converting soon. Macca has had three headers from left side crosses in last two games none which he managed to head downwards to increase chances of scoring. Is this lack of technique or crosses too high? Thought Hutch was unlucky with the one that hit the bar but really should be converting those as should Shaq. |
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 18, 2024 11:11:38 GMT
Personally, I think Lindsay has done okay, and certainly better than Ward so far this season. We haven't got a single striker that is scoring goals or playing well at the moment. I've shared my thoughts on Promise in another thread, but Martin has lost another yard of pace since his injury, Sotiriou has done very little, and Gats hasn't had a run in the side, mainly due to injury. I'd like to see a front 4 of: Forde, McCormick, Hutchinson O'Donker Forde, McCormick, Hutchinson all missed chances this weekend, hopefully they can start converting soon. Macca has had three headers from left side crosses in last two games none which he managed to head downwards to increase chances of scoring. Is this lack of technique or crosses too high? Thought Hutch was unlucky with the one that hit the bar but really should be converting those as should Shaq. I think you're being a bit harsh on Macca there. He couldn't have done much more with his header on Saturday, and it took one of the best saves I've seen this season to keep it out. His header against Lincoln was quite a way out, and it only went narrowly wide. I've seen Rovers players in a similar position head it 20 foot over the bar. At least he has the pace and awareness to make the runs to get into those scoring positions. Similarly with Hutchinson. He should have scored 2 on Saturday, but his performanes have improved a lot in recent weeks, and he now looks a real threat. I'd rather have players in the side that are making things happen, looking a threat, and showing the sort of movement that gives them chances to score. From what I've seen of Promise and Sotiriou, they simply don't have that. Hopefully they'll improve with time. |
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Post by roadman on Nov 18, 2024 11:24:29 GMT
This thread is a bit like saying, do you think Cliff Richard should try being a rapper now?!
Feck me guys, lock the thread, this manager isn’t ever going front foot all out attack. I admire the poster trying to work out a formula to get us playing better, I mean we have a kid who rarely makes the bench who played 21 games in the Championship last season and won young player of the year at Blackburn!
The manager will never ever step away from a 6/7 man defensive unit. You need to understand his tactics, 6 is four at the back and his his crab tanks in front of the defence. 7 is five at the back with those two in front of them. Also bear in mind he loves a CB at right or left back as well……….you are trying to figure out at an attacking formula with 5 other players, it’s so hard and I’d give up.
Lindsay is like the Traffic police officer in central Rome directing traffic, my Dad says he’d be good at Heathrow with his sticks navigating a jumbo into its parking bay!
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Post by madridgas on Nov 18, 2024 11:52:01 GMT
This thread is a bit like saying, do you think Cliff Richard should try being a rapper now?! Feck me guys, lock the thread, this manager isn’t ever going front foot all out attack. I admire the poster trying to work out a formula to get us playing better, I mean we have a kid who rarely makes the bench who played 21 games in the Championship last season and won young player of the year at Blackburn! The manager will never ever step away from a 6/7 man defensive unit. You need to understand his tactics, 6 is four at the back and his his crab tanks in front of the defence. 7 is five at the back with those two in front of them. Also bear in mind he loves a CB at right or left back as well……….you are trying to figure out at an attacking formula with 5 other players, it’s so hard and I’d give up. Lindsay is like the Traffic police officer in central Rome directing traffic, my Dad says he’d be good at Heathrow with his sticks navigating a jumbo into its parking bay! This may be his downfall, not because of what it is like to watch, or the points haul (which may be enough to keep us out of the relegation zone) but because IF the VP bought Forde and Hutchinson to sell on, they are going to struggle to truly demonstrate their worth and thus be more valuable assets to sell on in this type of team. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2024 16:04:21 GMT
Personally, I think Lindsay has done okay, and certainly better than Ward so far this season. We haven't got a single striker that is scoring goals or playing well at the moment. I've shared my thoughts on Promise in another thread, but Martin has lost another yard of pace since his injury, Sotiriou has done very little, and Gats hasn't had a run in the side, mainly due to injury. I'd like to see a front 4 of: Forde, McCormick, Hutchinson O'Donker Forde, McCormick, Hutchinson all missed chances this weekend, hopefully they can start converting soon. Macca has had three headers from left side crosses in last two games none which he managed to head downwards to increase chances of scoring. Is this lack of technique or crosses too high? Thought Hutch was unlucky with the one that hit the bar but really should be converting those as should Shaq. McCormick's a CM not a striker so he's hardly going to be the best header of the ball but he's now playing generally up to his potential at last. MT has to take some credit for sticking with him. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2024 16:07:37 GMT
This thread is a bit like saying, do you think Cliff Richard should try being a rapper now?! Feck me guys, lock the thread, this manager isn’t ever going front foot all out attack. I admire the poster trying to work out a formula to get us playing better, I mean we have a kid who rarely makes the bench who played 21 games in the Championship last season and won young player of the year at Blackburn! The manager will never ever step away from a 6/7 man defensive unit. You need to understand his tactics, 6 is four at the back and his his crab tanks in front of the defence. 7 is five at the back with those two in front of them. Also bear in mind he loves a CB at right or left back as well……….you are trying to figure out at an attacking formula with 5 other players, it’s so hard and I’d give up. Lindsay is like the Traffic police officer in central Rome directing traffic, my Dad says he’d be good at Heathrow with his sticks navigating a jumbo into its parking bay! Did you watch the first half on Saturday? As far as Garrett it may have been OK at Blackburn but every time he's played for Rovers he's looked out of his depth, as he didn't play in the FA Cup then I assume he's heading back to Blackburn in January. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 24, 2024 2:25:42 GMT
Good to see the team starting to take shape and gel in the way I've been saying since the start of the season with a back 4 of central defenders like Stoke used to do, nice balance of Hutch, Martin, Forde up front.
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