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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 29, 2024 8:38:28 GMT
I've said all along that Taylor should be given time, which he has now had. I'm at the stage that I'm not bothered if we give him another few games, or if he is sacked. I've said a lot will depend on who else is available and wants to manage in League 1.
I thought Schumacher wouldn't want to drop to League 1, unless it was to one of the big boys. He is the current favorite for the Burton job! If they pull that off, it will be a great appointment for them.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2024 9:54:09 GMT
It will probably will also mean they are no longer relegation certainties?
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 29, 2024 10:59:50 GMT
It will probably will also mean they are no longer relegation certainties? I wonder if we will try and contact him and check his availability. It's hard to do, when you still have a manager in place. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Oct 29, 2024 11:31:13 GMT
It will probably will also mean they are no longer relegation certainties? I wonder if we will try and contact him and check his availability. It's hard to do, when you still have a manager in place. Is it? Plenty of clubs do it. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 29, 2024 11:33:10 GMT
I wonder if we will try and contact him and check his availability. It's hard to do, when you still have a manager in place. Is it? Plenty of clubs do it. They probably do. But if he says no to us and let's Taylor know we approached him, that would leave us in an awkward position. I'm just saying, it's more awkward, when you have a manager in place. As you have to be careful with what you say/do etc. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2024 12:01:39 GMT
Is it? Plenty of clubs do it. They probably do. But if he says no to us and let's Taylor know we approached him, that would leave us in an awkward position. I'm just saying, it's more awkward, when you have a manager in place. As you have to be careful with what you say/do etc. Assuming he's got an agent working for him then they've probably already contacted us and asked if we're likely to be looking for a new manager in the near future, as I'd imagine we're likely to beat anything Burton can offer? Although surprised he's prepared to consider Burton as if he can't turn things around then it'll hardly look good on his CV to be sacked, then relegated and, probably, sacked again. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 29, 2024 12:06:53 GMT
So its ok to discuss the demise of our manager and sack him but not ok to discuss other people needing to be sacked ?
asking for a friend
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Post by Fetch on Oct 29, 2024 12:13:58 GMT
Exeter stuck by Gary Caldwell last season despite a poor campaign and crap football, and now are seemingly reaping the benefits. Food for thought.
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Post by returnofthedust on Oct 29, 2024 12:23:44 GMT
Exeter stuck by Gary Caldwell last season despite a poor campaign and crap football, and now are seemingly reaping the benefits. Food for thought. We could only dream of a set up as good as theirs. Everything behind the scenes at Exeter is ahead of what we do |
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Post by eric on Oct 29, 2024 12:39:54 GMT
Exeter stuck by Gary Caldwell last season despite a poor campaign and crap football, and now are seemingly reaping the benefits. Food for thought. I don’t know much about Exeter but perhaps there were very clear and positive signs that their manager was moving them in the right direction? With MT there hasn’t been any consistency in formation, tactics, selection or style of play. Even when there have been wins these haven’t been great performances and a lot of the underlying issues with style, tactics etc have just been masked by the 3 points. |
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Post by eric on Oct 29, 2024 12:43:10 GMT
Is it? Plenty of clubs do it. They probably do. But if he says no to us and lets Taylor know we approached him, that would leave us in an awkward position. I'm just saying, it's more awkward, when you have a manager in place. As you have to be careful with what you say/do etc. Clubs can’t win in these situations. Sack a manager without a ready made plan for a successor and the club get criticised for not having a plan. However, trying to get someone lined up in advance sees allegations of being disrespectful to the current manager and going behind his back !!! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2024 13:02:29 GMT
So its ok to discuss the demise of our manager and sack him but not ok to discuss other people needing to be sacked ? asking for a friend At least this is Rovers, even football, related not something totally off topic? |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 29, 2024 13:07:03 GMT
So its ok to discuss the demise of our manager and sack him but not ok to discuss other people needing to be sacked ? asking for a friend At least this is Rovers, even football, related not something totally off topic? It’s all cobblers to me 🤔 |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2024 13:07:29 GMT
Exeter stuck by Gary Caldwell last season despite a poor campaign and crap football, and now are seemingly reaping the benefits. Food for thought. I don’t know much about Exeter but perhaps there were very clear and positive signs that their manager was moving them in the right direction? With MT there hasn’t been any consistency in formation, tactics, selection or style of play. Even when there have been wins these haven’t been great performances and a lot of the underlying issues with style, tactics etc have just been masked by the 3 points. I'm not sure getting hammered 7 - 0(?) can have been very positive at the time? Under JB in L2 there were no clear signs we were progressing before things clicked into place for him. The performance v Cambridge and for 60 mins v Charlton were good, as was the second half at Burton, and we tore Reading apart for the last 15 or so minutes even if we did lose. CM's return to fitness could be make or break for MT. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Oct 29, 2024 13:18:57 GMT
Exeter stuck by Gary Caldwell last season despite a poor campaign and crap football, and now are seemingly reaping the benefits. Food for thought. I've seen some of their fans wanting him out on social media. Some fans will never be happy. |
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Post by gassince1957 on Oct 29, 2024 16:02:24 GMT
Oh look - another cunningly disguised "let's sack MT thread"!
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 29, 2024 16:28:15 GMT
Oh look - another cunningly disguised "let's sack MT thread"! How's talking about MT's replacement disguising anything, it seems pretty blatant what the OP is suggesting to me. |
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Post by Sir Trevor on Oct 29, 2024 16:37:38 GMT
Exeter stuck by Gary Caldwell last season despite a poor campaign and crap football, and now are seemingly reaping the benefits. Food for thought. We could only dream of a set up as good as theirs. Everything behind the scenes at Exeter is ahead of what we do It is frequently stated by certain posters that The Grecians are a model club where everything is rosy. Some posters praise their fan ownership approach and suggest this is an ideal way forward for Bristol Rovers. They have earned huge sums over the last decade from player sales. If this "gravy train" is not regularly boosted their club faces financial issues of a pressing nature. Their best business was the sale of Ollie Watkins. It is estimated that roughly £6million has been the income derived from his transfer to date. Exeter City earned £1.8m when they sold Watkins to Brentford in the summer of 2017. With a 15 percent sell-on clause, when he moved to Villa in the summer of 2020 for £28m, that entitled City to pick up a further £3.3m. Various add-ons have the potential to bring in extra income. For example, the Grecians secured an extra £75,000 after the Aston Villa man made his England debut off the bench in the 5-0 win over San Marino. This stream of income is now dwindling. Exeter City have used the income wisely on upgrading their stadium and improving their training ground in the last five years. Things are not quite so wonderful at the present time as some believe. Their much heralded academy structure is not producing the winning sides with quality players it once did. How are their Under 18 Academy side doing this season? By their usual standards, they are most disappointing. The nature of the Exeter City ownership structure means it is essential for them to make transfer profits consistently. The Ollie Watkins stream has been bringing in £1million per year, on average for six years. Brilliant business. Well done to them over the last decade. Without some big transfer sales it is highly likely that the next decade may not indicate that they are the ideal club for us to replicate. |
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Post by SleepyGas on Oct 29, 2024 16:45:17 GMT
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Post by returnofthedust on Oct 29, 2024 16:52:03 GMT
We could only dream of a set up as good as theirs. Everything behind the scenes at Exeter is ahead of what we do It is frequently stated by certain posters that The Grecians are a model club where everything is rosy. Some posters praise their fan ownership approach and suggest this is an ideal way forward for Bristol Rovers. They have earned huge sums over the last decade from player sales. If this "gravy train" is not regularly boosted their club faces financial issues of a pressing nature. Their best business was the sale of Ollie Watkins. It is estimated that roughly £6million has been the income derived from his transfer to date. Exeter City earned £1.8m when they sold Watkins to Brentford in the summer of 2017. With a 15 percent sell-on clause, when he moved to Villa in the summer of 2020 for £28m, that entitled City to pick up a further £3.3m. Various add-ons have the potential to bring in extra income. For example, the Grecians secured an extra £75,000 after the Aston Villa man made his England debut off the bench in the 5-0 win over San Marino. This stream of income is now dwindling. Exeter City have used the income wisely on upgrading their stadium and improving their training ground in the last five years. Things are not quite so wonderful at the present time as some believe. Their much heralded academy structure is not producing the winning sides with quality players it once did. How are their Under 18 Academy side doing this season? By their usual standards, they are most disappointing. The nature of the Exeter City ownership structure means it is essential for them to make transfer profits consistently. The Ollie Watkins stream has been bringing in £1million per year, on average for six years. Brilliant business. Well done to them over the last decade. Without some big transfer sales it is highly likely that the next decade may not indicate that they are the ideal club for us to replicate. They are at their absolute peak I would say. Incredible how well they have done and are doing for the size of the club. That’s because they’ve made good decisions that benefit the long term. Rovers has been/is full of people that are self serving. Shame. |
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