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Post by francegas on Nov 4, 2024 16:49:07 GMT
Always check the primary source and don't rely on someone else's filter. If anything it's worth pointing out so the casual observer, like France, doesn't get the wrong impression. Talking of France, have you scared him off? Nope , we’re best mates again . He admitted to me that the Tories just had to go and Starmer and a labour government was what the country needed at this point in time. isn’t that right francegas ? Haha nice try Yatton. Can't believe that the majority who voted this shower in are happy with their decision. |
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Post by francegas on Nov 4, 2024 17:05:24 GMT
First link, if you read the primary source rather than through the optics of a biased report, states he was appointed before the incident. Second link, Dawn Butler has since removed her retweet. First link fair enough. Second link ... even though she has removed her retweet it's an utter disgrace that Starmer has taken no action against her. Not for the first time Dawn Butler has posted blatantly racist comments and no doubt will get away with it. Lucy Connolly wife of Tory Councillor posts on social media disgusting racial comments and removes them and sentenced to 31 months in Prison. Dawn Butler Labour MP posts disgusting racist tweet and removes it and not one iota of action taken against her. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 4, 2024 17:09:18 GMT
First link, if you read the primary source rather than through the optics of a biased report, states he was appointed before the incident. Second link, Dawn Butler has since removed her retweet. First link fair enough. Second link ... even though she has removed her retweet it's an utter disgrace that Starmer has taken no action against her. Not for the first time Dawn Butler has posted blatantly racist comments and no doubt will get away with it. Lucy Connolly wife of Tory Councillor posts on social media disgusting racial comments and removes them and sentenced to 31 months in Prison. Dawn Butler Labour MP posts disgusting racist tweet and removes it and not one iota of action taken against her. I suspect that she is on a warning for this one. Any repeat will see some overt action. Fwiw, I don't like her style so would personally have no issue removing the whip. |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Nov 5, 2024 8:52:25 GMT
First link, if you read the primary source rather than through the optics of a biased report, states he was appointed before the incident. Second link, Dawn Butler has since removed her retweet. 1. Well lets hope he goes to prison, he should do by Two Tiers standards, all reports from the right tend to be biased as do all reports from the left - that's politics! 2. So what that she deleted it? people who shared racist posts after Southport are currently behind bars even though they deleted their tweets, more Two tier Keir! |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 5, 2024 8:55:14 GMT
First link, if you read the primary source rather than through the optics of a biased report, states he was appointed before the incident. Second link, Dawn Butler has since removed her retweet. 1. Well lets hope he goes to prison, he should do by Two Tiers standards, all reports from the right tend to be biased as do all reports from the left - that's politics! 2. So what that she deleted it? people who shared racist posts after Southport are currently behind bars even though they deleted their tweets, more Two tier Keir! I refer the Honorable Gentleman to my previous answer with FG above. |
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Post by trevorgas on Nov 5, 2024 10:10:37 GMT
The level of borrowing is a concern,looking at the data I don't think the the tax changes will be sufficient and they are taking a bet on economic growth,I can see further increases in future budgets. Yep , it was a Brexit tax . [b The small matter of £400 billion borrowed for COVID? |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 5, 2024 10:18:12 GMT
Yep , it was a Brexit tax . [b The small matter of £400 billion borrowed for COVID? Yep there’s that as well but anyone with even a half functioning brain will admit that Brexit has left a massive hole in the country’s coffers. |
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Post by trevorgas on Nov 5, 2024 12:54:43 GMT
[b The small matter of £400 billion borrowed for COVID? Yep there’s that as well but anyone with even a half functioning brain will admit that Brexit has left a massive hole in the country’s coffers. Wonder how much it actually is,anyone? |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 5, 2024 13:11:29 GMT
Yep there’s that as well but anyone with even a half functioning brain will admit that Brexit has left a massive hole in the country’s coffers. Wonder how much it actually is,anyone? At least 4% of gdp …. 50-60 billion a yr ? Someone clever like Stu could probably tell you |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 5, 2024 14:49:26 GMT
Wonder how much it actually is,anyone? At least 4% of gdp …. 50-60 billion a yr ? Someone clever like Stu could probably tell you Depends on how the parameters are set. OBR state a 4-8% reduction, Bloomberg say £100bn pa. Others say £2,000 per person per annum. Whichever way, though, we are financially much worse off in the short to medium term. I guess it's down to the individual whether that is a price worth paying. You all know my thoughts on it. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 5, 2024 15:03:23 GMT
At least 4% of gdp …. 50-60 billion a yr ? Someone clever like Stu could probably tell you Depends on how the parameters are set. OBR state a 4-8% reduction, Bloomberg say £100bn pa. Others say £2,000 per person per annum. Whichever way, though, we are financially much worse off in the short to medium term. I guess it's down to the individual whether that is a price worth paying. You all know my thoughts on it. But can you put a price on sovereignty? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 5, 2024 15:18:58 GMT
Depends on how the parameters are set. OBR state a 4-8% reduction, Bloomberg say £100bn pa. Others say £2,000 per person per annum. Whichever way, though, we are financially much worse off in the short to medium term. I guess it's down to the individual whether that is a price worth paying. You all know my thoughts on it. But can you put a price on sovereignty? Depends whether it's genuine sovereignty or mythical sovereignty. |
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Post by trevorgas on Nov 5, 2024 15:34:16 GMT
At least 4% of gdp …. 50-60 billion a yr ? Someone clever like Stu could probably tell you Depends on how the parameters are set. OBR state a 4-8% reduction, Bloomberg say £100bn pa. Others say £2,000 per person per annum. Whichever way, though, we are financially much worse off in the short to medium term. I guess it's down to the individual whether that is a price worth paying. You all know my thoughts on it. Interesting,thanks Stu. |
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Post by francegas on Nov 7, 2024 12:45:27 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 7, 2024 13:00:00 GMT
Ireland has called an election and Germany may have changes as the coalition are having difficulties.
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Post by aghast on Nov 7, 2024 14:58:00 GMT
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Post by francegas on Nov 7, 2024 19:11:15 GMT
Blimey Aghast that's a first you agreeing with me 😂. Joking apart I have no idea what's going on with the judicial system in the UK. We were told that the release of phone footage of the Police being battered at Manchester Airport could have a negative effect on any court proceedings (still no charges made I believe) however the phone footage of Mike Amesbury decking one of his constituents was sufficient for him to be charged. Seems strange to me. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 8, 2024 23:13:13 GMT
Blimey Aghast that's a first you agreeing with me 😂. Joking apart I have no idea what's going on with the judicial system in the UK. We were told that the release of phone footage of the Police being battered at Manchester Airport could have a negative effect on any court proceedings (still no charges made I believe) however the phone footage of Mike Amesbury decking one of his constituents was sufficient for him to be charged. Seems strange to me. Surely you’re not thick enough to promulgate the two tier policing theory are you France like the nut jobs who’ve liked your post ? 🙄😂 |
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Post by supergas on Nov 9, 2024 3:40:47 GMT
Blimey Aghast that's a first you agreeing with me 😂. Joking apart I have no idea what's going on with the judicial system in the UK. We were told that the release of phone footage of the Police being battered at Manchester Airport could have a negative effect on any court proceedings (still no charges made I believe) however the phone footage of Mike Amesbury decking one of his constituents was sufficient for him to be charged. Seems strange to me. Surely you’re not thick enough to promulgate the two tier policing theory are you France like the nut jobs who’ve liked your post ? 🙄😂 ...so pretty much all the evidence points to a two-tier policing approach and yet you insult the people who are pointing that out? When Romas riot in Harehills (protesting a perfectly legal social services intervention), the police step back whilst a bus and one of their own vehicles is torched. When the offenders plea guilty (and let's remember people were on the bus when it was attacked) they get three years for arson...but if you yell at the police (after children have been killed in Southport) you get a fast-track conviction to serve 2 years/8 months for violent disorder. A very different offence, a very similar sentence. Would you like to support Palestinians? Good news, you can march with others supporting Palestine (as well as those supporting Hamas) in London every weekend. The Met will close roads and allow you to shout "Jihad, Jihad, Jihad" and call for "Muslim armies" to invade Israel...be careful not to hold up a sign calling Hamas "terrorists" or rent a billboard showing images of the people Hamas took hostage though - that's not allowed despite the claims being factually accurate and you will be arrested and/or your billboard removed... Don't get me wrong. Frontline policing is difficult and I couldn't do it. But these and many other issues are caused by leaders in both the police and the government making poor decisions, exposing those on the frontline to valid criticism when the decisions are enforced. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 9, 2024 11:31:58 GMT
Surely you’re not thick enough to promulgate the two tier policing theory are you France like the nut jobs who’ve liked your post ? 🙄😂 ...so pretty much all the evidence points to a two-tier policing approach and yet you insult the people who are pointing that out? When Romas riot in Harehills (protesting a perfectly legal social services intervention), the police step back whilst a bus and one of their own vehicles is torched. When the offenders plea guilty (and let's remember people were on the bus when it was attacked) they get three years for arson...but if you yell at the police (after children have been killed in Southport) you get a fast-track conviction to serve 2 years/8 months for violent disorder. A very different offence, a very similar sentence. Would you like to support Palestinians? Good news, you can march with others supporting Palestine (as well as those supporting Hamas) in London every weekend. The Met will close roads and allow you to shout "Jihad, Jihad, Jihad" and call for "Muslim armies" to invade Israel...be careful not to hold up a sign calling Hamas "terrorists" or rent a billboard showing images of the people Hamas took hostage though - that's not allowed despite the claims being factually accurate and you will be arrested and/or your billboard removed... Don't get me wrong. Frontline policing is difficult and I couldn't do it. But these and many other issues are caused by leaders in both the police and the government making poor decisions, exposing those on the frontline to valid criticism when the decisions are enforced. Absolute bollox 🙄 |
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