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Post by yattongas on Dec 5, 2023 12:52:49 GMT
We people? I think folk on here base their responses on words already spoken. The post is strange. No surprise you lapped it up, but it's nonsensical. If the opposite was posted you'd be arguing it for sure. Nonsensical ? 😂 Speaks the master 🙄
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Post by oldie on Dec 5, 2023 14:37:22 GMT
We people? I think folk on here base their responses on words already spoken. The post is strange. No surprise you lapped it up, but it's nonsensical. If the opposite was posted you'd be arguing it for sure. Another Straw Man argument. You really should think before you press "create post"
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Post by Gassy on Dec 5, 2023 18:54:15 GMT
The post is strange. No surprise you lapped it up, but it's nonsensical. If the opposite was posted you'd be arguing it for sure. Another Straw Man argument. You really should think before you press "create post" Tbf I click the “quote” button
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Post by oldie on Dec 5, 2023 18:59:25 GMT
Another Straw Man argument. You really should think before you press "create post" Tbf I click the “quote” button So do I mostly
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Post by yattongas on Dec 6, 2023 15:13:46 GMT
Braverman launching a leadership bid with her utterly vile resignation speech 🙄🇬🇧
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 6, 2023 15:26:52 GMT
Braverman launching a leadership bid with her utterly vile resignation speech 🙄🇬🇧 Possibly quoted out of context (😶) but "Or is it in the vague, shifting and unaccountable concept of 'international law'." If anything, the Conservatives were supposed to the the party that wanted rules, she is coming across as dangerous.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 6, 2023 15:31:28 GMT
Braverman launching a leadership bid with her utterly vile resignation speech 🙄🇬🇧 Possibly quoted out of context (😶) but "Or is it in the vague, shifting and unaccountable concept of 'international law'." If anything, the Conservatives were supposed to the the party that wanted rules, she is coming across as dangerous. Nightingale detention camps ? That’s what she said wasn’t it ? !! She’s a full on fascist
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 6, 2023 15:34:14 GMT
Possibly quoted out of context (😶) but "Or is it in the vague, shifting and unaccountable concept of 'international law'." If anything, the Conservatives were supposed to the the party that wanted rules, she is coming across as dangerous. Nightingale detention camps ? That’s what she said wasn’t it ? !! She’s a full on fascist The evidence is there. 🧐
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Post by yattongas on Dec 6, 2023 19:02:19 GMT
Jenrick resigns 😂🙄
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Post by oldie on Dec 6, 2023 20:57:41 GMT
Nightingale detention camps ? That’s what she said wasn’t it ? !! She’s a full on fascist The evidence is there. 🧐 A bit frightening really where all this is heading
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Post by supergas on Dec 7, 2023 4:41:20 GMT
...any other illegal activities we should stop worrying about? Theft? Arson?
You may not like the rhetoric or the proposed plans, but it is an issue and it is illegal - other countries have and have had similar problems and many have proposed or already used similar schemes....
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Post by oldie on Dec 7, 2023 5:10:24 GMT
...any other illegal activities we should stop worrying about? Theft? Arson? You may not like the rhetoric or the proposed plans, but it is an issue and it is illegal - other countries have and have had similar problems and many have proposed or already used similar schemes.... Go deeper. Immigration is an issue, become a bigger issue, because of incompetent Tory legislation. The points based systems combined with actions to address specific labour shortages have themselves led to a surge in so called "legal" migration. Putting people into internment camps, or suggesting we should, is deflection and crude electioneering, appealing to the lowest common denominator.
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Post by supergas on Dec 7, 2023 5:28:55 GMT
...any other illegal activities we should stop worrying about? Theft? Arson? You may not like the rhetoric or the proposed plans, but it is an issue and it is illegal - other countries have and have had similar problems and many have proposed or already used similar schemes.... Go deeper. Immigration is an issue, become a bigger issue, because of incompetent Tory legislation. The points based systems combined with actions to address specific labour shortages have themselves led to a surge in so called "legal" migration. Putting people into internment camps, or suggesting we should, is deflection and crude electioneering, appealing to the lowest common denominator. ...and I'm not talking about legal immigration or the issues surrounding that. Neither was Braverman (at least not in the parts of her speech people are discussing in this thread).
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2023 6:06:40 GMT
Go deeper. Immigration is an issue, become a bigger issue, because of incompetent Tory legislation. The points based systems combined with actions to address specific labour shortages have themselves led to a surge in so called "legal" migration. Putting people into internment camps, or suggesting we should, is deflection and crude electioneering, appealing to the lowest common denominator. ...and I'm not talking about legal immigration or the issues surrounding that. Neither was Braverman (at least not in the parts of her speech people are discussing in this thread). How many small boats were there before we did Brexit Super , do you know ? 🇬🇧
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Post by supergas on Dec 7, 2023 7:50:16 GMT
...and I'm not talking about legal immigration or the issues surrounding that. Neither was Braverman (at least not in the parts of her speech people are discussing in this thread). How many small boats were there before we did Brexit Super , do you know ? 🇬🇧 ...also irrelevant, the people in the boats were entering the UK illegally before and after Brexit...
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 7, 2023 8:30:19 GMT
How many small boats were there before we did Brexit Super , do you know ? 🇬🇧 ...also irrelevant, the people in the boats were entering the UK illegally before and after Brexit... It's not though, we had mechanisms to return before Brexit. Okay, many came on lorries rather than boats but numbers are up.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2023 8:46:50 GMT
How many small boats were there before we did Brexit Super , do you know ? 🇬🇧 ...also irrelevant, the people in the boats were entering the UK illegally before and after Brexit... Proof you don’t know what you’re speaking about 🙄
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Post by supergas on Dec 7, 2023 9:26:16 GMT
...also irrelevant, the people in the boats were entering the UK illegally before and after Brexit... Proof you don’t know what you’re speaking about 🙄 ...so they were legally entering the UK in small boats before Brexit? Or after Brexit? You'll have to explain, the UK was never in Schengen so as far as I can see the legality has not changed at any point....
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Post by supergas on Dec 7, 2023 9:34:06 GMT
...also irrelevant, the people in the boats were entering the UK illegally before and after Brexit... It's not though, we had mechanisms to return before Brexit. Okay, many came on lorries rather than boats but numbers are up. The mechanisms to return people were sending low-100's back per year when the total arrivals were in the low tens of thousands. So approx 1% were being sent back, not a deterrent and in terms of the scale of the problem basically irrelevant...
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Post by yattongas on Dec 7, 2023 13:07:42 GMT
Proof you don’t know what you’re speaking about 🙄 ...so they were legally entering the UK in small boats before Brexit? Or after Brexit? You'll have to explain, the UK was never in Schengen so as far as I can see the legality has not changed at any point.... There’s no safe routes anymore and the Dublin agreement we had with the EU no longer applies. Brexit most definitely made this worse . Brexit also made things worse because we’ve now got a bunch of nationalist headbangers running the show of which a good proportion are racists .
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