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Post by joefrankie on Nov 23, 2023 20:09:23 GMT
That isn't what he said though. Jesus why would we import fruit when ours is better,this year we have lost a significant acreage of heritage apples due to cheap imports of inferior products,what is wrong with this country? In 5 years time we will no longer produce our own apples ,JRM is a cock. You are correct, but why on earth are you listening to a work that cock says? He is an extremist who even most Tories are embarrassed of. Why would you take any notice of anyone who still thinks Brexit was a good idea? He’s one of the liars who’ve landed us in this mess. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 23, 2023 20:13:35 GMT
Jesus why would we import fruit when ours is better,this year we have lost a significant acreage of heritage apples due to cheap imports of inferior products,what is wrong with this country? In 5 years time we will no longer produce our own apples ,JRM is a cock. You are correct, but why on earth are you listening to a work that cock says? He is an extremist who even most Tories are embarrassed of. Why would you take any notice of anyone who still thinks Brexit was a good idea? He’s one of the liars who’ve landed us in this mess. I beg your pardon 😮 I think you’ll find that although at the present time Brexit isn’t going so well but in 20 yrs time we’ll be world beating . Or some absolute bollox like that 😂🇬🇧 |
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Post by trevorgas on Nov 23, 2023 21:08:51 GMT
Jesus why would we import fruit when ours is better,this year we have lost a significant acreage of heritage apples due to cheap imports of inferior products,what is wrong with this country? In 5 years time we will no longer produce our own apples ,JRM is a cock. You are correct, but why on earth are you listening to a work that cock says? He is an extremist who even most Tories are embarrassed of. Why would you take any notice of anyone who still thinks Brexit was a good idea? He’s one of the liars who’ve landed us in this mess. Haven't listened to him,just responding to the thread |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 24, 2023 14:58:56 GMT
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Post by oldie on Nov 24, 2023 17:35:12 GMT
😂😂😂😂 Oh god....they live amongst. People actually vote for these utter Pollock's🤔 |
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Post by joefrankie on Nov 24, 2023 18:04:57 GMT
You are correct, but why on earth are you listening to a work that cock says? He is an extremist who even most Tories are embarrassed of. Why would you take any notice of anyone who still thinks Brexit was a good idea? He’s one of the liars who’ve landed us in this mess. Haven't listened to him,just responding to the thread 👍 |
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Post by francegas on Nov 24, 2023 22:31:48 GMT
Or alternatively use our own unemployed, there's plenty of them! That isn't what he said though. I know I was just offering an alternative |
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Post by gulfofaden on Nov 25, 2023 5:48:23 GMT
Jesus why would we import fruit when ours is better,this year we have lost a significant acreage of heritage apples due to cheap imports of inferior products,what is wrong with this country? In 5 years time we will no longer produce our own apples ,JRM is a cock. You are correct, but why on earth are you listening to a work that cock says? He is an extremist who even most Tories are embarrassed of. Why would you take any notice of anyone who still thinks Brexit was a good idea? He’s one of the liars who’ve landed us in this mess. David Cameron: “The job you do, the home you live in are at risk. The shock to our economy after leaving Europe would tip the country into recession.” George Osborne: “A vote to leave would tip our economy into year-long recession with at least 500,000 UK jobs lost” Treasury: “UK economy would fall into recession”, predicted 2016 Q3 growth between -0.1% and -1% IMF: “Brexit would trigger recession”, predicted -0.3% GDP for Q3 Bank of England: Mark Carney said “It would be likely to have a negative impact in the short term… I certainly think that would increase the risk of recession.” OECD: Short term impact of -1.25% GDP Still no recession. Germany is currently in a pretty nasty one. UK growth has outstripped Germany and on a par with France post covid. “Those liars” 🤣 |
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Post by oldie on Nov 25, 2023 6:32:55 GMT
You are correct, but why on earth are you listening to a work that cock says? He is an extremist who even most Tories are embarrassed of. Why would you take any notice of anyone who still thinks Brexit was a good idea? He’s one of the liars who’ve landed us in this mess. David Cameron: “The job you do, the home you live in are at risk. The shock to our economy after leaving Europe would tip the country into recession.” George Osborne: “A vote to leave would tip our economy into year-long recession with at least 500,000 UK jobs lost” Treasury: “UK economy would fall into recession”, predicted 2016 Q3 growth between -0.1% and -1% IMF: “Brexit would trigger recession”, predicted -0.3% GDP for Q3 Bank of England: Mark Carney said “It would be likely to have a negative impact in the short term… I certainly think that would increase the risk of recession.” OECD: Short term impact of -1.25% GDP Still no recession. Germany is currently in a pretty nasty one. UK growth has outstripped Germany and on a par with France post covid. “Those liars” 🤣 We have done this a million times |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 29, 2023 10:55:47 GMT
Good news, should be all three imo. "England will get a new national park as part of a government set of "nature pledges" to give greater access and protection to the countryside. Natural England will consider a list of possible sites, which could include the Chilterns, the Cotswolds and Dorset. Setting up a new national park in England was a Conservative manifesto commitment and next year marks 75 years since the act of Parliament that allowed for their creation." www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67538625 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 29, 2023 10:57:58 GMT
Will Sunak turn up at PMQs today or will he refuse as Starmer met the Greek PM first? 😇
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Post by yattongas on Nov 29, 2023 12:23:30 GMT
Will Sunak turn up at PMQs today or will he refuse as Starmer met the Greek PM first? 😇 He got spanked …. Again 😂 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 29, 2023 13:11:55 GMT
Will Sunak turn up at PMQs today or will he refuse as Starmer met the Greek PM first? 😇 He got spanked …. Again 😂 Baggins paid good money for that, oh sorry, wrong thread. 😁 |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 30, 2023 1:01:41 GMT
Newsnight being clipped, how could that happen?
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Post by oldie on Nov 30, 2023 4:50:03 GMT
Newsnight being clipped, how could that happen? Oh god... |
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Post by supergas on Nov 30, 2023 7:15:50 GMT
Newsnight being clipped, how could that happen? ...maybe because no one watches it anymore (average audience in 2008 was 867,000, dropping to 579,000 by 2015 and just below 300,000 in 2020). Also the 1922 meeting was behind closed doors but there was plenty of coverage of how it went - coverage that doesn't support the claims in that tweet... Tim Davie addressed the committee of Tory MPs / Huff Po covered it here / Telegraph here |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 30, 2023 7:31:43 GMT
Newsnight being clipped, how could that happen? ...maybe because no one watches it anymore (average audience in 2008 was 867,000, dropping to 579,000 by 2015 and just below 300,000 in 2020). Also the 1922 meeting was behind closed doors but there was plenty of coverage of how it went - coverage that doesn't support the claims in that tweet... Tim Davie addressed the committee of Tory MPs / Huff Po covered it here / Telegraph here Perhaps, but how do we know? Leaks from those there. Were there minutes taken? The article itself confirms it was unusual to meet like this. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it doesn't look good having Conservative leaning appointments meeting on the sidelines (nor would Labour if they were in office). Personally I think the BBC broadly gets it right, but they get a lot of flack from the right wing of the Conservatives and meetings like these do nothing to help with the perception of impartiality. |
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Post by supergas on Nov 30, 2023 7:54:12 GMT
Perhaps, but how do we know? Leaks from those there. Were there minutes taken? The article itself confirms it was unusual to meet like this. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it doesn't look good having Conservative leaning appointments meeting on the sidelines (nor would Labour if they were in office). Personally I think the BBC broadly gets it right, but they get a lot of flack from the right wing of the Conservatives and meetings like these do nothing to help with the perception of impartiality. I agree that in general the BBC mostly gets the correct balance - and a lot of what people think is pro-conservative is just down to the fact the Conservatives are in government at the moment. In general whenever over or underlying bias does rise to the surface it is nearly always pro-left/anti-Conservative, and that's just the nature of the people in the jobs where that bias can make it to the screen. I don't know if there are many centre-right media studies students in the UK but I bet that if there are any, they don't want a job/can't get a job at the BBC... Tim Davie also meets other groups all the time, including MPs from Labour, the Board of Deputies of British Jews, Parliamentary Select Committees, etc etc. What we have here is one accusation on twitter/X vs multiple journalists from a variety of sources quoting people who were actually there... |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 30, 2023 8:31:18 GMT
Perhaps, but how do we know? Leaks from those there. Were there minutes taken? The article itself confirms it was unusual to meet like this. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it doesn't look good having Conservative leaning appointments meeting on the sidelines (nor would Labour if they were in office). Personally I think the BBC broadly gets it right, but they get a lot of flack from the right wing of the Conservatives and meetings like these do nothing to help with the perception of impartiality. I agree that in general the BBC mostly gets the correct balance - and a lot of what people think is pro-conservative is just down to the fact the Conservatives are in government at the moment. In general whenever over or underlying bias does rise to the surface it is nearly always pro-left/anti-Conservative, and that's just the nature of the people in the jobs where that bias can make it to the screen. I don't know if there are many centre-right media studies students in the UK but I bet that if there are any, they don't want a job/can't get a job at the BBC... Tim Davie also meets other groups all the time, including MPs from Labour, the Board of Deputies of British Jews, Parliamentary Select Committees, etc etc. What we have here is one accusation on twitter/X vs multiple journalists from a variety of sources quoting people who were actually there... We are broadly in agreement. Although I did notice this little 'dig' in your response. 😃 "nearly always pro-left/anti-Conservative" There are plenty on the far left who would accuse the BBC and others of being pro Conservative. Certainly as someone fairly central, even I found Laura K and Robert P went very easy on Boris. Buttering up their source, perhaps? If those on the right and those on the left are using 'MSM' in pejorative way, maybe it's about right. |
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Post by supergas on Nov 30, 2023 9:01:19 GMT
I agree that in general the BBC mostly gets the correct balance - and a lot of what people think is pro-conservative is just down to the fact the Conservatives are in government at the moment. In general whenever over or underlying bias does rise to the surface it is nearly always pro-left/anti-Conservative, and that's just the nature of the people in the jobs where that bias can make it to the screen. I don't know if there are many centre-right media studies students in the UK but I bet that if there are any, they don't want a job/can't get a job at the BBC... Tim Davie also meets other groups all the time, including MPs from Labour, the Board of Deputies of British Jews, Parliamentary Select Committees, etc etc. What we have here is one accusation on twitter/X vs multiple journalists from a variety of sources quoting people who were actually there... We are broadly in agreement. Although I did notice this little 'dig' in your response. 😃 "nearly always pro-left/anti-Conservative" There are plenty on the far left who would accuse the BBC and others of being pro Conservative. Certainly as someone fairly central, even I found Laura K and Robert P went very easy on Boris. Buttering up their source, perhaps? If those on the right and those on the left are using 'MSM' in pejorative way, maybe it's about right. Don't get me wrong, the BBC annoys people on all sides of the political spectrum fairly equally, which is why in general it's doing OK as the taxpayer-funded national broadcaster...but that doesn't mean it can't do things better... |
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