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Post by Gassy on Aug 24, 2023 12:01:46 GMT
Depends which poll you want to believe. I've seen polls with labour at 45% 47% 48%. I've accepted that labour will win the GE (god help the UK) so no tears here. Considering the state the UK is in right now, I'm amazed you actually think that Labour would be worse than the current Tory party. Worst case scenario is they're as bad.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 24, 2023 12:39:39 GMT
Depends which poll you want to believe. I've seen polls with labour at 45% 47% 48%. I've accepted that labour will win the GE (god help the UK) so no tears here. Considering the state the UK is in right now, I'm amazed you actually think that Labour would be worse than the current Tory party. Worst case scenario is they're as bad. Absolute loon ! 😂
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 24, 2023 18:26:19 GMT
Talking of loons...
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Post by aghast on Aug 24, 2023 21:59:00 GMT
I can't believe she quit just because she wasn't awarded a peerage. And then not actually quit but just hang on under the radar collecting her salary? What sort of shallow self-serving person would betray her voters in that way?
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 24, 2023 22:13:17 GMT
BRICS grouping is expanding soon, could this be a fault line in economic relationships in the future?
US led G7 vs China led BRICS+?
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 26, 2023 17:51:48 GMT
Ouch! "But worst of all has been the spectacle of a Prime Minister demeaning his office by opening the gates to whip up a public frenzy against one of his own MPs. You failed to mention in your public comments that there could be no writ moved for a by-election over summer. And that the earliest any by-election could take place is at the end of September. The clearly orchestrated and almost daily personal attacks demonstrates the pitifully low level your Government has descended to. It is a modus operandi established by your allies which has targeted Boris Johnson, transferred to Liz Truss and now moved on to me." news.sky.com/story/nadine-dorries-resignation-letter-in-full-as-she-accuses-rishi-sunak-of-whipping-up-a-public-frenzy-against-her-12948384
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Post by yattongas on Aug 26, 2023 17:56:58 GMT
Ouch! "But worst of all has been the spectacle of a Prime Minister demeaning his office by opening the gates to whip up a public frenzy against one of his own MPs. You failed to mention in your public comments that there could be no writ moved for a by-election over summer. And that the earliest any by-election could take place is at the end of September. The clearly orchestrated and almost daily personal attacks demonstrates the pitifully low level your Government has descended to. It is a modus operandi established by your allies which has targeted Boris Johnson, transferred to Liz Truss and now moved on to me." news.sky.com/story/nadine-dorries-resignation-letter-in-full-as-she-accuses-rishi-sunak-of-whipping-up-a-public-frenzy-against-her-12948384Silly Bint 🙄
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Post by supergas on Aug 27, 2023 11:14:39 GMT
I can't believe she quit just because she wasn't awarded a peerage. And then not actually quit but just hang on under the radar collecting her salary? What sort of shallow self-serving person would betray her voters in that way? ...she and her office have being doing constituency work, which is actually the main job of an MP. In fact there are lots of good reasons MPs don't attend or speak in parliament for prolonged periods of time but are still doing the main part of their job... ...not saying Dorries has a good reason not to attend the Commons, but i) she still couldn't be sacked and ii) even if she could it wouldn't be a sackable offence...
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Post by yattongas on Aug 27, 2023 12:47:24 GMT
I can't believe she quit just because she wasn't awarded a peerage. And then not actually quit but just hang on under the radar collecting her salary? What sort of shallow self-serving person would betray her voters in that way? ...she and her office have being doing constituency work, which is actually the main job of an MP. In fact there are lots of good reasons MPs don't attend or speak in parliament for prolonged periods of time but are still doing the main part of their job... ...not saying Dorries has a good reason not to attend the Commons, but i) she still couldn't be sacked and ii) even if she could it wouldn't be a sackable offence... She didn’t hold a surgery for something like 3 yrs I think . They even sent reporters to her constituency on a ‘find Nadine’ hunt ! She’s taken the absolute pi55
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 30, 2023 7:26:41 GMT
Another one fallen? The dominoes may still be running. "Army officers have appeared on national television in Gabon to say they have taken power. They said they were annulling the results of Saturday's election, in which President Ali Bongo was declared the winner. The electoral commission said Mr Bongo had won just under two-thirds of the votes in an election the opposition argued was fraudulent. His overthrow would end his family's 53-year hold on power in Gabon. Gabon is one of Africa's major oil producers, while nearly 90% of the country is covered by forests. Twelve soldiers appeared on television early on Wednesday morning, announcing they were cancelling the results of the election and dissolving "all the institutions of the republic". They added that the country's borders had been closed "until further notice". If confirmed, this would be the eighth coup in former French colonies in Africa in the past three years." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-66654965
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Post by baggins on Aug 30, 2023 11:57:25 GMT
Another one fallen? The dominoes may still be running. "Army officers have appeared on national television in Gabon to say they have taken power. They said they were annulling the results of Saturday's election, in which President Ali Bongo was declared the winner. The electoral commission said Mr Bongo had won just under two-thirds of the votes in an election the opposition argued was fraudulent. His overthrow would end his family's 53-year hold on power in Gabon. Gabon is one of Africa's major oil producers, while nearly 90% of the country is covered by forests. Twelve soldiers appeared on television early on Wednesday morning, announcing they were cancelling the results of the election and dissolving "all the institutions of the republic". They added that the country's borders had been closed "until further notice". If confirmed, this would be the eighth coup in former French colonies in Africa in the past three years." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-66654965President Bongo? Seriously? Does he drink it in the Cong......I'll shut the door on my way out.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 30, 2023 23:05:26 GMT
Ben Wallace's replacement is thought to be announced on Thursday. According to some press reports, Grant Shapps is a front runner along with former Defence Secretary Liam Fox.
Fox resigned in disgrace 10 years ago while Shapps would be holding his 5th Cabinet post in 12 months.
Can't Sunak do better?
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Post by supergas on Aug 31, 2023 7:41:34 GMT
Ben Wallace's replacement is thought to be announced on Thursday. According to some press reports, Grant Shapps is a front runner along with former Defence Secretary Liam Fox. Fox resigned in disgrace 10 years ago while Shapps would be holding his 5th Cabinet post in 12 months. Can't Sunak do better? Armed Forces minister James Heappey is the favourite though, I suspect the newspapers naming Shapps and Fox are actually being briefed about who will run for party leader when Sunak resigns after the next election... ....and I think all sides of the political spectrum can see what a good job Wallace has done, not only as Defence Secretary during the Russia-Ukraine war, but also as Security Minister and the Minister for Northern Ireland....one of the few Conservative Ministers who don't make many mistakes in their Ministerial roles...
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 31, 2023 7:54:11 GMT
Ben Wallace's replacement is thought to be announced on Thursday. According to some press reports, Grant Shapps is a front runner along with former Defence Secretary Liam Fox. Fox resigned in disgrace 10 years ago while Shapps would be holding his 5th Cabinet post in 12 months. Can't Sunak do better? Armed Forces minister James Heappey is the favourite though, I suspect the newspapers naming Shapps and Fox are actually being briefed about who will run for party leader when Sunak resigns after the next election... ....and I think all sides of the political spectrum can see what a good job Wallace has done, not only as Defence Secretary during the Russia-Ukraine war, but also as Security Minister and the Minister for Northern Ireland....one of the few Conservative Ministers who don't make many mistakes in their Ministerial roles... Heappey would be the logical choice especially if Sunak wants minimal disruption. Wallace isn't without criticism but overall I've always seen him as one of the few actually competent in his post. He's done a decent job overall especially with Ukraine.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 31, 2023 8:45:28 GMT
It’s Grant four names Shapps 🙄
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 31, 2023 9:23:37 GMT
It’s Grant four names Shapps 🙄 Confirmation this is a Government winding down the clock until its inevitable loss at the next GE. May as well call the GE now and just get on with rebuilding in Opposition ready for 2028.
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Post by supergas on Aug 31, 2023 10:18:33 GMT
It’s Grant four names Shapps 🙄 Confirmation this is a Government winding down the clock until its inevitable loss at the next GE. May as well call the GE now and just get on with rebuilding in Opposition ready for 2028. Not a good time to call a General Election, lots of pieces of legislation have to pass before the end of 2023, so they can't afford to lose weeks of Parliamentary time before and after an election... ...and yes, in May 2024 the Conservatives will lose (not as heavily as some polls predict) and give Labour five years to fix everything
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Post by yattongas on Aug 31, 2023 10:29:16 GMT
Confirmation this is a Government winding down the clock until its inevitable loss at the next GE. May as well call the GE now and just get on with rebuilding in Opposition ready for 2028. Not a good time to call a General Election, lots of pieces of legislation have to pass before the end of 2023, so they can't afford to lose weeks of Parliamentary time before and after an election... ...and yes, in May 2024 the Conservatives will lose (not as heavily as some polls predict) and give Labour five years to fix everything We can’t start to fix things whilst Labour continues with the ‘make Brexit work’ nonsense. It’ll take at least 10 yrs to even start to get things back on track after this mob’s destruction. Tories will win no more than 180 seats . It’s gonna be a wipe out .
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 31, 2023 10:58:41 GMT
Confirmation this is a Government winding down the clock until its inevitable loss at the next GE. May as well call the GE now and just get on with rebuilding in Opposition ready for 2028. Not a good time to call a General Election, lots of pieces of legislation have to pass before the end of 2023, so they can't afford to lose weeks of Parliamentary time before and after an election... ...and yes, in May 2024 the Conservatives will lose (not as heavily as some polls predict) and give Labour five years to fix everything There is always lots of legislation to pass, doesn't stop elections being called. Boris did it in 2019 and lots of very important legislation was lost, including some high profile protections that was in the press at the time. As for the GE, since the Fixed Term Parliament Act was revoked, the GE could be delayed until January 2025 so still plenty of government time. As for the result, too early to predict. I'd expect a Labour majority and the Conservatives to be c.200. A lot depends on how the SNP vote share holds up.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 31, 2023 11:53:48 GMT
Think I heard this morning that Shapps has held 5 government posts in the last yr 😮
Bonus point for anyone who can name them all ?
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