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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2022 18:24:38 GMT
As JB pointed out in his recent interview. With all the money available in the game, why not make refs professional full time employees, seems like a no-brainer really. I liked the idea of academys for referees as well Totally agree with the academy shout for referees. Not just taught the rules inside out but also how to deal with verbal abuse, still can't believe the same stories keep resurfacing of refs having to lock themselves in dressing rooms as all hell breaks loose.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Dec 26, 2022 18:39:19 GMT
I liked the idea of academys for referees as well Totally agree with the academy shout for referees. Not just taught the rules inside out but also how to deal with verbal abuse, still can't believe the same stories keep resurfacing of refs having to lock themselves in dressing rooms as all hell breaks loose. At grassroots level, it's not just people being verbal though, threats of physical violence, and, in some cases spectators wading in. All leads to a shortage of people taking up the whistle (why on earth would you?), so a smaller gene pool to fish in for decent refs to move up the ladder. I think there are new, harsher punishments coming in soon, with regard to people who abuse referees - not sure if that will make any difference, so many people just don't know how to moderate their behaviour these days.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 26, 2022 18:52:58 GMT
Gutted we came away from that game with zero points but very encouraged that we could go away to a top side and look much the better side . Should of been 3 points . On to Exeter !
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 26, 2022 19:16:36 GMT
Pompey are in a shocking run of form and even lost 2-0 at home to MK Dons in their last match at home. The fact Ipswich had 70% of possession hardly suggests Wycombe are anything but a score a goal and defend side. You were saying? Isn't that just what they did after scoring the second goal? I can't recall Belshaw making one save all game. It's GC type football, effective but I doubt I could watch it every week.
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Post by bridgwatergas on Dec 26, 2022 19:40:19 GMT
Isn't that just what they did after scoring the second goal? I can't recall Belshaw making one save all game. It's GC type football, effective but I doubt I could watch it every week. I said exactly the same I couldn't watch Wycombe week in with that style of play it's not enjoyable at all but very effective.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 26, 2022 19:40:28 GMT
Just got back from ifollow..
I like the dark arts as much as the next dark arts appreciating person but JM theatrical diving and us going down regularly unnecessary contributed to them timewasting and having a right royal laugh at their own keeper apparently going down every match 86 mins for injury break!? Both teams were taking the p!ss. Trying to get players booked ain't my cup of tea either.
We got drawn in and weren't good enough to break them down.
Percentage might have been in favour, and we did dominate in spells, but I don't think we done enough to test their Keep for a win today.
Workrate was high and we got off to a wonderful start...that looked offside on tv...but slowly, they got back into it.
No surprise both goals were conceded coming from our right hand side, not saying Hoole was at fault, just not as much support there.
I thought Evans offered little again. Sincs failed to deliver, even though he played in a more familiar role.
Collins evergreen another assist if he doesn't score... what an essential role he plays.
We were sometimes scrappy in possession and trying to win the first ball. They were physical and wily enough to grind out a result, then nullify any threat... unspectacular and no complaints.
Well done 1200 Gas but the Wycombe hoodoo continues...
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 26, 2022 19:54:19 GMT
Officiating poor?
Well it didn't receive much criticism if not acknowledgement here when we were 1-0 up to a suspected offside goal?
Can it be we only ever really moan at officials when we don't win?
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Post by socrates on Dec 26, 2022 19:57:23 GMT
Yeah I thought our goal was a yard offside. They should have had a man sent off when it was a yellow. Poor officials today again but we day that most weeks.
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Post by bidefordgas on Dec 26, 2022 19:59:50 GMT
Isn't that just what they did after scoring the second goal? I can't recall Belshaw making one save all game. It's GC type football, effective but I doubt I could watch it every week. Wycombe 15 shots 5 on target. Gas 14 shots 5 on target. Not my stats, Skys.
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Post by keygas on Dec 26, 2022 20:03:06 GMT
When I had to think hard to remember when our last league defeat was before today , it proves what a great run we’ve been on. Today was a reversal from the Charlton game when the host’s that day could have been 2 or 3 up in the first 20 minutes & still managed to lose, today it was our turn to lose after early domination, but that’s football. Anyway 2 home games coming up against sort of local rivals Exeter & Cheltenham, a great chance for us to make a challenge on those play off positions.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 26, 2022 20:09:28 GMT
Isn't that just what they did after scoring the second goal? I can't recall Belshaw making one save all game. It's GC type football, effective but I doubt I could watch it every week. Wycombe 15 shots 5 on target. Gas 14 shots 5 on target. Not my stats, Skys. I assume you didn't watch the match if you have to rely upon Sky Sports for stats? If you want to be a Wycombe fanboy then feel free to carry on, I know which team I'd sooner watch regularly.
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Post by pirate on Dec 26, 2022 20:27:03 GMT
Yeah I thought our goal was a yard offside. They should have had a man sent off when it was a yellow. Poor officials today again but we day that most weeks. More like a yard or two onside. The replay on ifollow clearly showed that.
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Dec 26, 2022 20:37:32 GMT
Just got back.
Frustrating day. Frustrating game!
Used to have a season ticket but gave it up twice, (once Twerton and once at the mem) because I'm paying to watch professional footballers not amature referees.
Better second half but four or five terrible decisions in the first half by the ref. Mentally he went to sleep at time's and didn't use his linesman. Rover's were affected by this whereas Wycombe were smart and played on it!
Can't comment on the pen shout too far away, but on BBC 3CR Ainsworth called Rover's goal offside. Also said Goalie went down injured "genuinely today". Think that sums up Wycombe in a nutshell.
As for Rover's, need to be much smarter and not affected by poor refs. Must learn to stand up to the dark art's.
Generally my comment's as everyone else's but would sign off with a positive about Coburn. For such a young player he was immense. The Wycombe no2 gave up playing the ball and just body-checked Coburn forthe wholeofthesecondhalf.should of been sent off for one and not even booked. Coburn gave the Wycombe defence a torid time, turning them inside and out. Will be very brused and sore on the bus home tonight. Well done Josh!
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Post by bidefordgas on Dec 26, 2022 20:38:36 GMT
Wycombe 15 shots 5 on target. Gas 14 shots 5 on target. Not my stats, Skys. I assume you didn't watch the match if you have to rely upon Sky Sports for stats? If you want to be a Wycombe fanboy then feel free to carry on, I know which team I'd sooner watch regularly. Now you are being an idiot. I watched the game as I do for every game. I dont keep stat records like you obviously dont. On the balance of that game, they looked as dangerous as we did and scored one more than us. You could argue we deserved a draw but nothing more than that. Far from being a Wycombe fan boy, but certainly don’t consider them a bad team and nowhere near the worse team we have played this season like some claim. Just accept they won the game , we were poor and move on like I have and let’s see what we can do at the Mem in a few weeks against them.
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Post by syg on Dec 26, 2022 20:48:42 GMT
Away from the trading estate arena very quick, unusual stuff! No panic here, disjointed & frustrating display after taking the lead but as mentioned it’s first league defeat since Derby away on October 29th. Too many not at the races, our final ball all day was awful. Coulda shoulda had a second before they levelled up but wasn’t to be. Our afternoon summed up right at the end when Collins is put through down the channel. Cuts back, p**s weak scuffed effort that didn’t beat the first man. Grim. Wycombe? Can’t say any more than what’s already been said, not even streetwise, just a cheating pack of has beens and never will be’s. They pocket the ref early, get their noses in front and the diving/trainer on begins. Blatant for all to see but all the officials have in their eyes is that championship call up come new year. Onto Exeter, still only a few off the top pack. Chance to bounce back in front of a bumper crowd. Ifollow commentators were joking that it wouldn't be long before their keeper starts going down with a hammy injury. Seems it happens quite a lot going by their comments . I had the home commentary on, early into the 2nd half they were talking about what time their keeper would feign an injury. I thought it was some in-joke. I was wrong he went down with a "hammy" and apparently does it every match, they were surprised it wasn't a little later in the match and found the whole thing amusing, they then congratulated an outfield player on feigning injury. Horrid, but well run club, give it time though and they will be back in league 2.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 26, 2022 21:03:30 GMT
I assume you didn't watch the match if you have to rely upon Sky Sports for stats? If you want to be a Wycombe fanboy then feel free to carry on, I know which team I'd sooner watch regularly. Now you are being an idiot. I watched the game as I do for every game. I dont keep stat records like you obviously dont. On the balance of that game, they looked as dangerous as we did and scored one more than us. You could argue we deserved a draw but nothing more than that. Far from being a Wycombe fan boy, but certainly don’t consider them a bad team and nowhere near the worse team we have played this season like some claim. Just accept they won the game , we were poor and move on like I have and let’s see what we can do at the Mem in a few weeks against them. I didn't think we were poor, just didn't get the run of the ball nor the refs decisions, on another day we'll play worse and win.
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Post by socrates on Dec 26, 2022 21:09:13 GMT
Yeah I thought our goal was a yard offside. They should have had a man sent off when it was a yellow. Poor officials today again but we day that most weeks. More like a yard or two onside. The replay on ifollow clearly showed that. Just watched it in slow motion. Offside. But some go your way and some don’t. Feels a bit like we were robbed and a point would have been a fair result but just got to pick ourselves up and win Thursday and New Year’s Day. UTG
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Post by gulfofaden on Dec 26, 2022 21:18:57 GMT
I’m trying to be objective here, we didn’t do enough in both boxes to score more than them, ultimately.
What happened after their goal was encouraging. This is a team up the table, at home, previous championship and playoff contestants. They shut up shop for about 35 minutes.
One side wanted to play, one side wanted anything but open play.
Wycombe are basically an extremely well drilled defence with pace and power in the front line. The main tactic is to launch it towards the top 3 and know that 1/10 times you get a chance.
Generally speaking, I did not like the look of their players, their attitude, the needless provoking of our crowd by their number 9….it just screamed “bunch of w****ers”
The time wasting was appalling, appealing when they knew full well they were in the wrong. It’s amazing to think clearly Ainsworth and co and the players have decided this is how they will try to win football matches.
Probably not as objective as I hoped but this is a common theme for everyone who plays Wycombe and it’s either freak chance, or Ainsworth has created a culture of dark arts and for this reason we should afford Wycombe no respect as a footballing force and move on to play some teams who wish to retain a semblance of their self respect and credibility in the footballing world.
I don’t blame the fans at all for this, other than a few morons they’re just like us, it’s the players and staff who partake and create this culture.
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Post by smudge1 on Dec 26, 2022 21:20:57 GMT
At the end the goalie went down claiming Coburn had clattered his legs, coburn was mile's away from making contact! Clear cheating...
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Post by pirate on Dec 26, 2022 21:23:55 GMT
More like a yard or two onside. The replay on ifollow clearly showed that. Just watched it in slow motion. Offside. But some go your way and some don’t. Feels a bit like we were robbed and a point would have been a fair result but just got to pick ourselves up and win Thursday and New Year’s Day. UTG I've just watched it back a few times and the more I watch it the more it does look offside in fairness, although it's a dodgy camera angle.
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