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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 21:30:31 GMT
Maybe the board had some say aswell,so good all round
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 21:33:32 GMT
If you wanted to then surely you could already include Mansel & Monkhouse in the "winding down" bracket but if anything they are two of DC's most impressive signings. Back to the OP's point about good calibre loan signings given that none are now really figuring in the starting 11, you could say that's an area DC needs to improve upon on. If you don't class Trotman as a loanee only LDV as really been the only outstanding loan signing and even that was only for a short spell. The likes of Martin, Cunnington and Wall have mainly been disappointing and Goldberg hardly made much impact. It's interesting that Taylor's only started scoring regularly since the Tubbs talk broke, but even so he seems to have little understanding with Blisset and that was also the case with Cunnington? I take your point. I always see midfielders as having a longer life expectancy than strikers. Maybe that's not true anymore. Aren't the vast majority of loans players who don't cut it at their own clubs and need experience at a lower level though? Hardly surprising that many of them aren't great. My point was we have cover for those areas. Martin was a godsend when he came to us, became awful later sure but that's football. Blissett was a loan originally if you recall. LDV's injury could hardly be described as Clarke's fault, unless you feel he was over exposed but then the fans were clamouring for his inclusion. I thought Cunnington was okay to be honest, maybe just because we were in a goal drought. Wall's lack of goals was disappointing but he bothered defences, watch Gateshead back. Goldberg has only been given 10 minutes at most, actually did he have a half against Bath, I can't remember. What I find weird is Blissett misses a lot of sitters himself and doesn't get a quarter of the stick Taylor does. Selective memories?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 21:39:23 GMT
If you wanted to then surely you could already include Mansel & Monkhouse in the "winding down" bracket but if anything they are two of DC's most impressive signings. Back to the OP's point about good calibre loan signings given that none are now really figuring in the starting 11, you could say that's an area DC needs to improve upon on. If you don't class Trotman as a loanee only LDV as really been the only outstanding loan signing and even that was only for a short spell. The likes of Martin, Cunnington and Wall have mainly been disappointing and Goldberg hardly made much impact. It's interesting that Taylor's only started scoring regularly since the Tubbs talk broke, but even so he seems to have little understanding with Blisset and that was also the case with Cunnington? That wasnt my point, my point was that its good we were flexible with our signings to allow mannouvre in january and now we are doing so well its a huge plus that we can strengthen. I dont rate our loan signings bar LDV that highly but you have to try and rather short loans then season.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 4, 2015 22:07:23 GMT
If you wanted to then surely you could already include Mansel & Monkhouse in the "winding down" bracket but if anything they are two of DC's most impressive signings. Back to the OP's point about good calibre loan signings given that none are now really figuring in the starting 11, you could say that's an area DC needs to improve upon on. If you don't class Trotman as a loanee only LDV as really been the only outstanding loan signing and even that was only for a short spell. The likes of Martin, Cunnington and Wall have mainly been disappointing and Goldberg hardly made much impact. It's interesting that Taylor's only started scoring regularly since the Tubbs talk broke, but even so he seems to have little understanding with Blisset and that was also the case with Cunnington? That wasnt my point, my point was that its good we were flexible with our signings to allow mannouvre in january and now we are doing so well its a huge plus that we can strengthen. I dont rate our loan signings bar LDV that highly but you have to try and rather short loans then season. Yeah, everyone left in the squad that isn't on loan has earned their place in the squad, istm. There isn't one player who we need to get rid of. Which means we can bring people in to build on success so far. We don't need to bring people in to shore anything up or to fill holes.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 4, 2015 22:14:27 GMT
uote author=" dinsdale" source="/post/48913/thread" timestamp="1420403514"]Nice to see another well intended thread ruined. Wonder why i bother[/quote] I'm delighted you're making these threads Dins. At the start of the season you were one of DC's biggest critics and I can understand why and respect your opinion. To see that someone such as yourself is now firmly behind what DC and the team is doing is great to see. UTG
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 4, 2015 22:25:44 GMT
If you wanted to then surely you could already include Mansel & Monkhouse in the "winding down" bracket but if anything they are two of DC's most impressive signings. Back to the OP's point about good calibre loan signings given that none are now really figuring in the starting 11, you could say that's an area DC needs to improve upon on. If you don't class Trotman as a loanee only LDV as really been the only outstanding loan signing and even that was only for a short spell. The likes of Martin, Cunnington and Wall have mainly been disappointing and Goldberg hardly made much impact. It's interesting that Taylor's only started scoring regularly since the Tubbs talk broke, but even so he seems to have little understanding with Blisset and that was also the case with Cunnington? I take your point. I always see midfielders as having a longer life expectancy than strikers. Maybe that's not true anymore. Aren't the vast majority of loans players who don't cut it at their own clubs and need experience at a lower level though? Hardly surprising that many of them aren't great. My point was we have cover for those areas. Martin was a godsend when he came to us, became awful later sure but that's football. Blissett was a loan originally if you recall. LDV's injury could hardly be described as Clarke's fault, unless you feel he was over exposed but then the fans were clamouring for his inclusion. I thought Cunnington was okay to be honest, maybe just because we were in a goal drought. Wall's lack of goals was disappointing but he bothered defences, watch Gateshead back. Goldberg has only been given 10 minutes at most, actually did he have a half against Bath, I can't remember. What I find weird is Blissett misses a lot of sitters himself and doesn't get a quarter of the stick Taylor does. Selective memories? Blisset was only loaned to get around the transfer window being closed so I don't class him as a true loan signing. I'm not blaming the club for LDV's injury just saying his loan spell was short due to his injury. Apart from Hitchcock & Eves we never seem to get brilliant loan signings like Yeovil seem to pull off. Perhaps now we're pushing for promotion that will change, and players will jump at the chance. It's odd as players like Hitchcock, LDV & recently Spiees all seem to enjoy their loan spells at the club, going by their tweets etc when they leave. PS I'm with Dins I think DC's finally convinced me as well that he was the right man for the job.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jan 4, 2015 23:09:23 GMT
I can't be the only one wanting Tubbs to sign even more now! Just to entertain the idea for funzies: Drop Bliss or Taylor for him? play all three, with Taylor dropping off a little. get into 'em, f them up!!!! attack, attack, attack, attack, attack
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 23:27:27 GMT
uote author=" dinsdale" source="/post/48913/thread" timestamp="1420403514"]Nice to see another well intended thread ruined. Wonder why i bother I'm delighted you're making these threads Dins. At the start of the season you were one of DC's biggest critics and I can understand why and respect your opinion. To see that someone such as yourself is now firmly behind what DC and the team is doing is great to see. UTG[/quote] Well said - I'm saving a seat for Dins on Rich's bus!
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Post by gasheadliam on Jan 5, 2015 6:23:00 GMT
If we sign Tubbs I would revert to a 4312
Mildenhall
Lockyear McCrystal Parkes Brown Sinclair Manse Monkhouse/Clarke Taylor Tubbs Blissett
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 7:06:04 GMT
Just to entertain the idea for funzies: Drop Bliss or Taylor for him? play all three, with Taylor dropping off a little. get into 'em, f them up!!!! attack, attack, attack, attack, attack Blimey, you've got the Bristol & District Grade A Coaching Badge the same as me haven't you
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Post by Mark Ash on Jan 5, 2015 8:26:38 GMT
I'm getting more and more nervous lol. Wheels coming off and bouncing all over the place!
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Post by You can call me Al. on Jan 5, 2015 8:42:44 GMT
Good win yesterday, Good work. I want everyone to enjoy a cup of their favorite hot beverage and also a small sweet treat. Excellent stuff.
I want to remind you we win or lose as a CLUB. We are 2nd as a CLUB.
That team involves everyone : Board, Management, Players, Staff and Supporters. And i congratulate everyone on a much needed result yesterday. Regarding the OP's statement regarding spending: The budget was set by Nick and Toni and well used by Darrell, remember we're a TEAM so please, if we're handing out plaudits today we must be fair to praise all involved in those decisions. If in one of my other ventures i enjoy a profitable day i don't just thank my floor managers, i need to thank my executives also and of course the staff on the ground floor.
There is still a long way to go this season before we achieve anything, progress is being made and we are on the right path. The true reflection of OUR results will be revealed in May, until then - everyone must continue the hard work and dedication, there must be no let up and i require everyone to do their bit.
Now, well done, enjoy the moment and i'll see you all at the next task.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 8:55:29 GMT
uote author=" dinsdale" source="/post/48913/thread" timestamp="1420403514"]Nice to see another well intended thread ruined. Wonder why i bother I'm delighted you're making these threads Dins. At the start of the season you were one of DC's biggest critics and I can understand why and respect your opinion. To see that someone such as yourself is now firmly behind what DC and the team is doing is great to see. UTG[/quote] My thought pocess in august was holy crap we only have about 14 players, we looked bad in pre season and underprepared which is a common trait at Rovers. I went to all 8 of DCs games in league 2 and was shocked at how often and quickly he changed everything. Now we are at December he has slowly built his own team and we look very good for promotion. Not only that but huge changes wont be needed for 2015/16 whatever happens just 3 or 4. Moving forwards the board still need to change their ways. 1. Lets budget to break even 2. Set up a decent scouting system 3. Engage with the fans 4. Improve commercial operations. Lets move forwards and make us a 21st century club
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Post by RD on Jan 5, 2015 9:03:04 GMT
uote author=" dinsdale" source="/post/48913/thread" timestamp="1420403514"]Nice to see another well intended thread ruined. Wonder why i bother My thought process in august was holy crap we only have about 14 players, we looked bad in pre season and underprepared which is a common trait at Rovers. I went to all 8 of DCs games in league 2 and was shocked at how often and quickly he changed everything. Now we are at December he has slowly built his own team and we look very good for promotion. Not only that but huge changes wont be needed for 2015/16 whatever happens just 3 or 4. Moving forwards the board still need to change their ways. 1. Lets budget to break even 2. Set up a decent scouting system 3. Engage with the fans 4. Improve commercial operations. Lets move forwards and make us a 21st century club Genuine question - how many other clubs' BoDs actively engage with the supporters? Do Arsenal's? Man Utd's? Liverpool's? By the by I think they quietly go about their business in the background. Maybe I'm mistaken. I certainly agree with your other points; just playing devils advocate on point 3.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jan 5, 2015 11:26:14 GMT
Good OP Dins - fair play to you.
I agree. We are now in a very strong position with some relatively low impact loan signings going back to their parent clubs, and room in the budget to bring in 2-4 (permanent?) signings to kick us on for the 2nd half of the season.
We're coming for you Barnet!
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