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Post by Gastafari on Sept 17, 2022 17:54:24 GMT
Barton needs to take a long hard look. Ok our problems started Tues night with 2 centre backs being unprofessional but JB won the appeal to free up Alfie then doesn’t use him at all. Accept the gamble of a back 3 with Whelan anchoring was worth trying as Lincoln have not started well, Alfie hasn’t found form since his injury history over the last year. But it’s going wrong. The option was there to change it and go back 4 and Barton not only doesn’t take it, he takes far too long making any changes! Not good enough. That said, neither team looked comfortable at the back and it could have been a ridiculous 6-6! Lincoln put gifted chances away while we didn’t put gifted chances away. Shocking managerial performance. Does he even care Barton for all his strange risks and odd formations seems incapable of making brave changes early on Always the same subs, 65 mins, usually like for like Needs to accept sometimes things need looking at early in games. UTG Rochdale away last season where we came back from 3-1 down, where he hauled Josh Grant off.
Perfect example that makes your statement incorrect
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Post by dudelebowski on Sept 17, 2022 17:55:59 GMT
Patchwork defence which we all know but more worrying, where are last seasons heroes from midfield? Evans especially, sitting on that cosy contract. Finley, Harry Anderson? Utter dross. And of course the pointless signing of Macca which every man and his dog bar myself seemed to be desperate for. Sounded like Lofty missed a hatful after 4-1 yet still managing a goal a game. Well in lad! Missing Accrington as I’m on International duty in Milan, a side we have beaten once in the last 14 home meetings? And that was behind closed doors. Gulp. Evans probably does have a nice contract and I bet everyone of us fans were delighted he signed that new deal. Watching today he’s clearly not in great form but I’ll totally back him to work his way through it - form is temporary. Whatever his contract is he worked hard today and was always looking for the ball. I see no drop in work rate or attitude from last season. Indeed but work rate & attitude can only go so far when the quality is nowhere near the standards he’s set himself. Not even close.
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Post by eric on Sept 17, 2022 17:57:26 GMT
Gauging opinion here… Would anyone be against dropping Evans & Harry Anderson against Accy? For me it would be a completely reasonable decision and at least half a shake up in the midfield that’s badly needed. Neither have been nowhere near it this season, something’s gotta change in that middle pack. At least while we’re so fragile in defence. If you drop Anderson next week and Hoole is away with Wales who would you pick at right back/right wing back?
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Post by kruger on Sept 17, 2022 17:59:56 GMT
Took the misses today, she hasn't been in years after all the bigging up I gave it, she don't want to come back any time soon, how disappointing. sh** atmosphere sh** result sh** everything.
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Post by dudelebowski on Sept 17, 2022 18:00:10 GMT
Gauging opinion here… Would anyone be against dropping Evans & Harry Anderson against Accy? For me it would be a completely reasonable decision and at least half a shake up in the midfield that’s badly needed. Neither have been nowhere near it this season, something’s gotta change in that middle pack. At least while we’re so fragile in defence. If you drop Anderson next week and Hoole is away with Wales who would you pick at right back/right wing back? Saunders right wing back. Chuck Jasper out there if we have too. It’s a change up, the rut we are in we can’t keep picking the same under performers hoping something ‘may’ happen. 9 games gone already!
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Post by eric on Sept 17, 2022 18:05:48 GMT
Really disappointed with that on so many levels… Only Aaron Collins and maybe Lofty and TC come out of that with any credit for me. Starting to wonder if JB is taking this seriously … maybe he thinks we will get to safety comfortably and can write off 12-15 games at the start. Can handle losing when we have competed and given our all. Today though some players were awful. They have no excuse. Belshaw - 4 Hoole - 2 Whelan-2 Gordon -2 Evans -3 Macca - 3 Finley - 4 Anderson - 3 Clarke - 5 Loft - 5 Collins 7 Subs … Saunders / Marquis did nothing which is normal Coutts - 5 Jasper -4 Some players truly need a kick up the arse and are only getting a game as they are Manager Mates - Not sure it will get better when some return. I really don’t know what is wrong with Evans - Macca doesn’t look that great either . Gutted tonight … Wish I could tell JB to get his finger out as he talks a good game but not sure he would listen - more interested in his social media. I’ve read some nonsense on this forum over the years and this one is right up there. JB not taking it seriously? JB only picking his mates? JB more interested in his social media? Get a grip.
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Post by Gastafari on Sept 17, 2022 18:10:25 GMT
Evans probably does have a nice contract and I bet everyone of us fans were delighted he signed that new deal. Watching today he’s clearly not in great form but I’ll totally back him to work his way through it - form is temporary. Whatever his contract is he worked hard today and was always looking for the ball. I see no drop in work rate or attitude from last season. Indeed but work rate & attitude can only go so far when the quality is nowhere near the standards he’s set himself. Not even close. He's been the width of a post away from scoring absolute worldies at Ipswich and again today. If they go in, then it's a completely different story. He's certainly not hit the heights of last season, but he's still providing glimpses of quality that nobody else in the squad is able to do.
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Post by eric on Sept 17, 2022 18:11:07 GMT
Evans probably does have a nice contract and I bet everyone of us fans were delighted he signed that new deal. Watching today he’s clearly not in great form but I’ll totally back him to work his way through it - form is temporary. Whatever his contract is he worked hard today and was always looking for the ball. I see no drop in work rate or attitude from last season. Indeed but work rate & attitude can only go so far when the quality is nowhere near the standards he’s set himself. Not even close. Fair enough, he’ll probably be the first to admit that he isn’t performing as well as he did last season. Opinion will likely be divided on whether he should be left out or kept in the team to rediscover his form. Personally I’d persevere with him and I think he’s earned that after last season. I didn’t see the need to link a ‘cosy contract’ with his loss of form as he strikes me as an honest, hardworking player.
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Post by singupgas on Sept 17, 2022 18:12:53 GMT
Really disappointed with that on so many levels… Only Aaron Collins and maybe Lofty and TC come out of that with any credit for me. Starting to wonder if JB is taking this seriously … maybe he thinks we will get to safety comfortably and can write off 12-15 games at the start. Can handle losing when we have competed and given our all. Today though some players were awful. They have no excuse. Belshaw - 4 Hoole - 2 Whelan-2 Gordon -2 Evans -3 Macca - 3 Finley - 4 Anderson - 3 Clarke - 5 Loft - 5 Collins 7 Subs … Saunders / Marquis did nothing which is normal Coutts - 5 Jasper -4 Some players truly need a kick up the arse and are only getting a game as they are Manager Mates - Not sure it will get better when some return. I really don’t know what is wrong with Evans - Macca doesn’t look that great either . Gutted tonight … Wish I could tell JB to get his finger out as he talks a good game but not sure he would listen - more interested in his social media. I’ve read some nonsense on this forum over the years and this one is right up there. JB not taking it seriously? JB only picking his mates? JB more interested in his social media? Get a grip. Some of the comments on here this eve are a bit much. Wasn't long ago they were all on the pitch with Joey, with players on their shoulders. If anyone was expecting us to be a top side in this league, it was very naive. Long season, we are plagued with injuries which are of course Joeys fault. Utg.
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Post by gaelgas on Sept 17, 2022 18:16:12 GMT
Please don't 'have a go' again 🙈🙈🙈 I’ll leave it to you next week. Can’t do much worse. 😂😂😂 Bugger that, I don't want that kind of responsibility 😱
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Post by stevek192 on Sept 17, 2022 18:23:31 GMT
The fact is Topper Gas our Home grown players have for years now not been good enough and most end up in a lower standard. I would love to have some young home grown players in the team but the sad truth is that lot over the River get the good young players and we get the dross. Do you honestly think that Calamity Kilgour would have been any better today? yes Alfie would likely have been better, when was the last time a back line with Alfie conceded 6 and at home? Its easy to say that Alfie "likely" be better but there is no proof and nothing in Alfies performances in the last 3 years to think he would have done any better. When did we last concede six goals at home? This defence does take some beating-it was like watching a sunday morning team. If you had selected six footballers out of the crowd they could probably have done no worse. It is a joke that in truth Lincoln were awful and yet scored six goals. The referee did not help our cause with some awful decisions .
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Post by eric on Sept 17, 2022 18:24:19 GMT
I’ll leave it to you next week. Can’t do much worse. 😂😂😂 Bugger that, I don't want that kind of responsibility 😱 Don’t worry. We’ll turn our form around soon - a little run of wins and GGMI will reappear to take over the matchday threads!!
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Post by dudelebowski on Sept 17, 2022 18:25:12 GMT
Indeed but work rate & attitude can only go so far when the quality is nowhere near the standards he’s set himself. Not even close. Fair enough, he’ll probably be the first to admit that he isn’t performing as well as he did last season. Opinion will likely be divided on whether he should be left out or kept in the team to rediscover his form. Personally I’d persevere with him and I think he’s earned that after last season. I didn’t see the need to link a ‘cosy contract’ with his loss of form as he strikes me as an honest, hardworking player. Far from unreasonable to suggest it mind, one year deal last year, star man, goal and assist return sensational. Signs a 3 year, yet to grab hold of a game or dictate one in the first 9 games. Hopefully it gets going next week against Stanley.
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Post by richhertford on Sept 17, 2022 18:26:40 GMT
Great interview by Joe. He was honest about his decision and supported team. Leadership right there. Onwards we go.
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Post by baggins on Sept 17, 2022 18:29:40 GMT
Took the misses today, she hasn't been in years after all the bigging up I gave it, she don't want to come back any time soon, how disappointing. sh** atmosphere sh** result sh** everything. The one upside to today for you. 😄
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Post by stapletongas on Sept 17, 2022 18:32:39 GMT
yes Alfie would likely have been better, when was the last time a back line with Alfie conceded 6 and at home? Its easy to say that Alfie "likely" be better but there is no proof and nothing in Alfies performances in the last 3 years to think he would have done any better. When did we last concede six goals at home? This defence does take some beating-it was like watching a sunday morning team. If you had selected six footballers out of the crowd they could probably have done no worse. It is a joke that in truth Lincoln were awful and yet scored six goals. The referee did not help our cause with some awful decisions . That is utter crap. The gulf between Sunday football and the pro game is massive and your comments are either gross exaggeration or total naivety. We could have set up with a back 4 of Anderson, Hoole, Kilgour, Gordon and I would be pretty confident we would not have conceded 6. Read my post again, when did a back line with Alfie last concede 6 at home? You dodged that one and just posted drivel.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2022 18:34:56 GMT
Really strange one today. Defensively horrible, but going forward looked threatening and loft/Collins combined well. Seems odd that I feel reasonably confident when conceding 6 at home, but I do. I can’t disagree with previous comments about Evans’ recent performances but he will come good. Just stick with the team as most did and I’m sure we will climb the league once the 1st choice defence is fit and available. Anyway enjoy your weekend. Utg.
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Post by Quarters on Sept 17, 2022 18:46:43 GMT
I’ve read some nonsense on this forum over the years and this one is right up there. JB not taking it seriously? JB only picking his mates? JB more interested in his social media? Get a grip. Some of the comments on here this eve are a bit much. Wasn't long ago they were all on the pitch with Joey, with players on their shoulders. If anyone was expecting us to be a top side in this league, it was very naive. Long season, we are plagued with injuries which are of course Joeys fault. Utg. Well season before last injuries were due to negligence by previous managers. Why is a different this season?
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Post by playtowin on Sept 17, 2022 18:47:57 GMT
The fact was that JB knew there was no point putting Kilgour on as he is no better than the players we had out there and in fact the worse defender of the lot was the other regular Houle who to be honest is useless. Wasted substututions though in bringing on Marquis and Saunders. With the defenders we have fit we are not going to improve for at least 2 or 3 weeks.This is so frustrating though giving away points in another game where footballing wise we were the better team but defensively we werE National League quality.Did Houle manage to pass to one of our players all game? How times this season have we conceded 6 goals with Kilgour in the team? You're dislike for home grown players, O Clarke, Kilgour and, the latest, Hoole is plain odd, unless you just like being a Gaschat WUM. Hoole's confidence seems to have been shattered by JB deciding this summer that he was really a CB rather than RB. There was a point in the 2nd half when whelo played a pass 5 yards in front of Hoole. In normal circumstances that would be for the player to run onto and take the ball forward. Hoole stayed stationery. It showed he had lost some confidence from his earlier errors. The commentary obviously blamed whelan for a bad pass . After that Whelan passed to a static Hoole rather than assuming he would move forward. I think whilst understanding the choice made Joe made an error tactically. He should have played Hoole and Kilgour with Gordon and had Whelan sat just in front of them to control the passing. Advanced sweeper ,the way hoddle pkayed at Swindle.
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Post by thegasareback on Sept 17, 2022 18:59:49 GMT
First goal whelan got bullied easily and it went through to the cross for a goal. Alfie plays he heads it clear. Job done. And this pattern continued. Was blindingly obvious but Joey seemed too stubborn to change it. Joey has credits in the bank but he got this wrong today and has to be held accountable.
FGR - loss Morc - draw Linc - loss Shrews - draw
Acc Camb Plymouth Fleetwood
We need some serious points from these home games. It gets very tricky after.
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