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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 6, 2022 15:55:03 GMT
Didn't think they were all on the civil list? The Civil List was replaced a while ago, they will get an amount for the cost of any official duties but otherwise it's a stipend from the Queen. |
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Post by trevorgas on Jun 6, 2022 16:17:25 GMT
Didn't think they were all on the civil list? The Civil List was replaced a while ago, they will get an amount for the cost of any official duties but otherwise it's a stipend from the Queen. Ta |
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Post by francegas on Jun 6, 2022 16:34:16 GMT
The Royals generate more to the UK economy than the £1.60 odd a year that it costs the UK tax payer each year.
Who do you think funds, as an example, the upkeep of presidential palaces in France, even down to the flowers put into vases....yep the french tax payer.
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Post by baggins on Jun 6, 2022 16:48:32 GMT
I don't mind them. Think they all play their part as far as I can see.
A £2.3 billion 4 day party? Nothing compared to a £37 billion Track & Trace system.
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Post by yattongas on Jun 6, 2022 17:06:23 GMT
The Royals generate more to the UK economy than the £1.60 odd a year that it costs the UK tax payer each year. Who do you think funds, as an example, the upkeep of presidential palaces in France, even down to the flowers put into vases....yep the french tax payer. Not saying you’re wrong but have you got any evidence to back this up ? |
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Post by francegas on Jun 6, 2022 18:29:49 GMT
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Post by francegas on Jun 6, 2022 18:36:28 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jun 6, 2022 18:47:07 GMT
Sorry mate bit of a misunderstanding, what I wanted was evidence that the royals generate more to the uk economy than it costs the UK tax payer . Have you any evidence for that or is it just your guess ? |
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Post by francegas on Jun 6, 2022 19:11:28 GMT
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Post by aghast on Jun 6, 2022 19:25:14 GMT
Talking of the Royals (not that we really were, but it doesn't merit a new thread), it was announced that Prince Randy Andy will miss the Thanksgiving service at St Paul's due to testing positive for Covid. How convenient for the family. Phew! Also noticed they are now taking about a new term: 'working Royals', who appear to be the only ones allowed on the balcony at Buckingham Palace today. The non-'working' ones presumably will be sitting at home twiddling their thumbs. How does Prince Andrew, as a non-working Royal, support himself these days? Does he earn actual money (and if so, how?), or does he get handed a brown envelope every few months? Just interested as a taxpayer. If he is getting funded it'll be through the private wealth as derived via the Duchy of Lancaster and not through the Sovereign Grant. He also has his navy pension. 🤭 Thanks Stuart. So it's the brown envelope then. Nice for him. |
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Post by yattongas on Jun 6, 2022 19:26:14 GMT
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Post by aghast on Jun 6, 2022 19:48:27 GMT
We hear this stuff about the Royals generating tourism money and business deals all the time.
It's utter nonsense, in my opinion, peddled by sycophants, what is left of the Establishment, and sentimental old fools.
If we had an elected president as a figurehead (not a replacement for the PM), like so many other countries, he/she would take the place of the Royals in negotiating deals, and probably be taken a lot more seriously, with a lot less fawning and bowing.
As to the tourism thing, would we actually suffer in any way if the Royals were retired to a large estate in Scotland or Norfolk? I don't want to strip them of their wealth and put them in a three bed semi in Yate. I just want to downgrade them and take away their titles. 'Royal Highness'? 'Your Majesty'? Really? In 2022??
Has anyone ever decided not to visit Versailles because Louis XIV's descendants no longer live there?
Has anyone visiting the Taj Mahal ever thought it's not really worth it because the Mughal Emperor is not in residence?
Has a trip to Egypt ever been cancelled because the Valley of the Kings misleadingly no longer has any actual Pharaohs eating grapes on a gold sofa and entertaining their concubines?
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2022 20:00:28 GMT
Didn't think they were all on the civil list? Paid by the head of the family. Apart from Charlie boy who rips £20M a year from Cornwall |
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2022 20:01:04 GMT
The Royals generate more to the UK economy than the £1.60 odd a year that it costs the UK tax payer each year. Who do you think funds, as an example, the upkeep of presidential palaces in France, even down to the flowers put into vases....yep the french tax payer. Ha ha 😂😂😂😂 See the comments from Aghast |
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Post by francegas on Jun 6, 2022 20:07:01 GMT
The Royals generate more to the UK economy than the £1.60 odd a year that it costs the UK tax payer each year. Who do you think funds, as an example, the upkeep of presidential palaces in France, even down to the flowers put into vases....yep the french tax payer. Ha ha 😂😂😂😂 See the comments from Aghast Yes and my opinion he's talking utter nonsense. It's all opinions Oldie. Ha ha 😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by oldie on Jun 6, 2022 20:08:12 GMT
Ha ha 😂😂😂😂 See the comments from Aghast Yes and my opinion he's talking utter nonsense. It's all opinions Oldie. Ha ha 😂😂😂😂 No it's not France, it's fact. |
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Post by baggins on Jun 6, 2022 20:10:28 GMT
We hear this stuff about the Royals generating tourism money and business deals all the time. It's utter nonsense, in my opinion, peddled by sycophants, what is left of the Establishment, and sentimental old fools. If we had an elected president as a figurehead (not a replacement for the PM), like so many other countries, he/she would take the place of the Royals in negotiating deals, and probably be taken a lot more seriously, with a lot less fawning and bowing. As to the tourism thing, would we actually suffer in any way if the Royals were retired to a large estate in Scotland or Norfolk? I don't want to strip them of their wealth and put them in a three bed semi in Yate. I just want to downgrade them and take away their titles. 'Royal Highness'? 'Your Majesty'? Really? In 2022?? Has anyone ever decided not to visit Versailles because Louis XIV's descendants no longer live there? Has anyone visiting the Taj Mahal ever thought it's not really worth it because the Mughal Emperor is not in residence? Has a trip to Egypt ever been cancelled because the Valley of the Kings misleadingly no longer has any actual Pharaohs eating grapes on a gold sofa and entertaining their concubines? So you just don't like where they live and how we address them? |
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Post by aghast on Jun 6, 2022 20:16:50 GMT
Ha ha 😂😂😂😂 See the comments from Aghast Yes and my opinion he's talking utter nonsense. It's all opinions Oldie. Ha ha 😂😂😂😂 Interesting take on wanting to preserve all that is British and traditional whilst residing overseas. Bit like Nobby frothing at the mouth at Remainers as he sits in his house in Germany. |
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Post by aghast on Jun 6, 2022 20:17:53 GMT
We hear this stuff about the Royals generating tourism money and business deals all the time. It's utter nonsense, in my opinion, peddled by sycophants, what is left of the Establishment, and sentimental old fools. If we had an elected president as a figurehead (not a replacement for the PM), like so many other countries, he/she would take the place of the Royals in negotiating deals, and probably be taken a lot more seriously, with a lot less fawning and bowing. As to the tourism thing, would we actually suffer in any way if the Royals were retired to a large estate in Scotland or Norfolk? I don't want to strip them of their wealth and put them in a three bed semi in Yate. I just want to downgrade them and take away their titles. 'Royal Highness'? 'Your Majesty'? Really? In 2022?? Has anyone ever decided not to visit Versailles because Louis XIV's descendants no longer live there? Has anyone visiting the Taj Mahal ever thought it's not really worth it because the Mughal Emperor is not in residence? Has a trip to Egypt ever been cancelled because the Valley of the Kings misleadingly no longer has any actual Pharaohs eating grapes on a gold sofa and entertaining their concubines? So you just don't like where they live and how we address them? Two of many reasons. |
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Post by francegas on Jun 6, 2022 20:23:36 GMT
Yes and my opinion he's talking utter nonsense. It's all opinions Oldie. Ha ha 😂😂😂😂 Interesting take on wanting to preserve all that is British and traditional whilst residing overseas. Bit like Nobby frothing at the mouth at Remainers as he sits in his house in Germany. I certainly don't need to justify myself to you for why I live overseas. Likewise if you don't want to preserve all that is British and traditional why don't you pack your bags and move to your desired republic. |
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