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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 7, 2021 11:41:24 GMT
What you're saying makes sense, however you have to balance this against the fact that we are a country that values personal freedom. The virus was first detected in China in 2018, they suppressed this, but had it been common knowledge then, would there have been demands to stop all flights from China? In short, I agree with what you've written, I just don't think it would have been accepted if they'd tried to enforce those things when you said. Where did you read it was detected in 2018? I haven’t heard that. Would be keen to read more. Personally I’d have stopped flights from Wuhan & Italy in March when things got a bit mad. We already know that the first known cases in the UK came from both those countries, pretty much every country in Europe did this apart from us, so I don’t think it would have been viewed that badly. I think at the time we were trying to balance economy and health and we probably acted a bit too late. Interestingly now we’re looking to make meantime enter the UK test negative, a good move - just sadly too late imo. Should read 2019, I suspect it is just a typo. I would add to your list that we shouldn't have cut back on pandemic planning a few years ago, would have helped mitigate even if not directly preventative, and addressing reductions in NHS staff. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 12:01:34 GMT
Where did you read it was detected in 2018? I haven’t heard that. Would be keen to read more. Personally I’d have stopped flights from Wuhan & Italy in March when things got a bit mad. We already know that the first known cases in the UK came from both those countries, pretty much every country in Europe did this apart from us, so I don’t think it would have been viewed that badly. I think at the time we were trying to balance economy and health and we probably acted a bit too late. Interestingly now we’re looking to make meantime enter the UK test negative, a good move - just sadly too late imo. Should read 2019, I suspect it is just a typo. I would add to your list that we shouldn't have cut back on pandemic planning a few years ago, would have helped mitigate even if not directly preventative, and addressing reductions in NHS staff. Yes, absolutely. Pre Pandemic political and fiscal policies coming back to haunt us. Do not forget who initiated those policies. |
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Post by peterparker on Jan 7, 2021 13:28:39 GMT
FISH!
catch less because we can't get it out of the UK quick enough
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 13:39:47 GMT
FISH! catch less because we can't get it out of the UK quick enough 😂😂😂😂😂, No, hang on, I need to catch my breath,.....😂😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 7, 2021 14:33:45 GMT
FISH! catch less because we can't get it out of the UK quick enough 😂😂😂😂😂, No, hang on, I need to catch my breath,.....😂😂😂😂😂 Now guys stop talking about the fish 😅😅 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 15:21:51 GMT
😂😂😂😂😂, No, hang on, I need to catch my breath,.....😂😂😂😂😂 Now guys stop talking about the fish 😅😅 Yes Let's move on. Eels, what about Eels?😱😱 |
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 7, 2021 15:23:02 GMT
Now guys stop talking about the fish 😅😅 Yes Let's move on. Eels, what about Eels?😱😱 There's no plaice for eels😆😆 |
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Post by peterparker on Jan 8, 2021 7:17:47 GMT
Non-tariff except where there are. I know that the company is having to read and read again the rules on rules of origin as stuff may be subject to tariffs www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55583244 |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 8, 2021 7:47:07 GMT
A third Covid vaccine is likely to be approved for use in Britain next week but it will not be available until April because the UK is no longer part of the EU.
Britain has ordered 7m doses of the Moderna vaccine, which has been approved by regulators in the EU and US. But UK authorisation will not help the government towards its goal of vaccinating the most vulnerable by mid-February.
The Moderna vaccine is similar to the Pfizer/BioNTech version and has produced equally strong results in late-stage clinical trials, with efficacy of 94%. However, it was not part of the portfolio of vaccines bought by the UK until those results were released.
The government then put in an order for 5m doses, which was later increased to 7m, but deliveries will not begin until the beginning of April.
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Post by peterparker on Jan 8, 2021 8:31:16 GMT
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Post by Gassy on Jan 8, 2021 9:14:25 GMT
A third Covid vaccine is likely to be approved for use in Britain next week but it will not be available until April because the UK is no longer part of the EU. Britain has ordered 7m doses of the Moderna vaccine, which has been approved by regulators in the EU and US. But UK authorisation will not help the government towards its goal of vaccinating the most vulnerable by mid-February. The Moderna vaccine is similar to the Pfizer/BioNTech version and has produced equally strong results in late-stage clinical trials, with efficacy of 94%. However, it was not part of the portfolio of vaccines bought by the UK until those results were released. The government then put in an order for 5m doses, which was later increased to 7m, but deliveries will not begin until the beginning of April. Yep was looking into this the other day and because we didn’t preorder Moderna’s (like the EU did), we don’t get the early orders of the vaccine. Thankfully we do have more than enough in Oxford though. Also expect Janssen (J&J) vaccine soon too - which is a single dose vaccine. Could be a game changer. |
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Post by matealotblue on Jan 8, 2021 9:23:38 GMT
Now guys stop talking about the fish 😅😅 Yes Let's move on. Eels, what about Eels?😱😱 Prefer high ones....but only on weekends though....😘 |
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 8, 2021 10:25:50 GMT
Yes Let's move on. Eels, what about Eels?😱😱 Prefer high ones....but only on weekends though....😘 Ooo your such a tart😆😆 |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 8, 2021 15:32:26 GMT
A week on from Brexit, the main road to Dover has been so quiet that officials were able to close half of it Thursday for a litter-picking operation without causing delays for drivers.
But behind such placid scenes, many truckers are still warning of chaos as they struggle to adjust to the new paperwork required by Britain’s departure from the European Union. Drivers are being held up for hours because they lack the right documents, they say.
With traffic well below its usual levels, the pain has so far manifested itself out of sight at factory gates and truckers’ depots. It’s likely to spread to the ports as activity rebounds in coming days, according to seven firms interviewed by Bloomberg.
“It’s an absolute mess,” said David Zaccheo, operations manager at Alcaline U.K. Ltd., whose fleet of 145 vehicles shuttles goods between Britain and the EU. “What’s going to happen next week? We’re not even that busy at the moment.”
Zaccheo said his firm has had vehicles stuck in Italy since Monday because of a lack of correct transit documents. In another case, a trailer destined for Milan had to wait for two days in the U.K. before it could move because it didn’t have the right paperwork, he said.
Not So Fast! What Brexit Means for Border Crossers: QuickTake
Faced with the threat of chaos at the border in the weeks after Brexit, many firms decided to stockpile goods or delay deliveries, leaving Dover eerily quiet. Traffic through the port is down 85% from its 2019 average. With the industry expecting activity to pick up in coming days, Britain faces the first major test of its Brexit readiness.
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“At the moment, the border is in fact flowing and it’s flowing very smoothly,” Transport Secretary Grant Shapps told the BBC on Friday. Less than 1% of vehicles are turning up without the correct paperwork, he said. By far the bigger problem, he said, is drivers not having the Covid test necessary to get into France.
While the U.K. may have struck a trade deal with the EU avoiding tariffs and quotas, companies are facing new frictions affecting cross-border trade. Firms now have to fill in forms such as customs declarations and export health certificates that weren’t required when Britain was a member of the bloc. The problem, some logistics firms say, is many customers don’t understand what documents are required.
Ellis Blackham, an account manager at JJX Logistics, a Kingswinford, England-based firm that moves goods from the U.K. to the EU, said it took six hours -- at least three times longer than usual -- to load one of its trucks up with pharmaceutical products bound for Germany because the customer didn’t have the correct paperwork.
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 8, 2021 17:39:35 GMT
A week on from Brexit, the main road to Dover has been so quiet that officials were able to close half of it Thursday for a litter-picking operation without causing delays for drivers. But behind such placid scenes, many truckers are still warning of chaos as they struggle to adjust to the new paperwork required by Britain’s departure from the European Union. Drivers are being held up for hours because they lack the right documents, they say. With traffic well below its usual levels, the pain has so far manifested itself out of sight at factory gates and truckers’ depots. It’s likely to spread to the ports as activity rebounds in coming days, according to seven firms interviewed by Bloomberg. “It’s an absolute mess,” said David Zaccheo, operations manager at Alcaline U.K. Ltd., whose fleet of 145 vehicles shuttles goods between Britain and the EU. “What’s going to happen next week? We’re not even that busy at the moment.” Zaccheo said his firm has had vehicles stuck in Italy since Monday because of a lack of correct transit documents. In another case, a trailer destined for Milan had to wait for two days in the U.K. before it could move because it didn’t have the right paperwork, he said. Not So Fast! What Brexit Means for Border Crossers: QuickTake Faced with the threat of chaos at the border in the weeks after Brexit, many firms decided to stockpile goods or delay deliveries, leaving Dover eerily quiet. Traffic through the port is down 85% from its 2019 average. With the industry expecting activity to pick up in coming days, Britain faces the first major test of its Brexit readiness. Customer Documents “At the moment, the border is in fact flowing and it’s flowing very smoothly,” Transport Secretary Grant Shapps told the BBC on Friday. Less than 1% of vehicles are turning up without the correct paperwork, he said. By far the bigger problem, he said, is drivers not having the Covid test necessary to get into France. While the U.K. may have struck a trade deal with the EU avoiding tariffs and quotas, companies are facing new frictions affecting cross-border trade. Firms now have to fill in forms such as customs declarations and export health certificates that weren’t required when Britain was a member of the bloc. The problem, some logistics firms say, is many customers don’t understand what documents are required. Ellis Blackham, an account manager at JJX Logistics, a Kingswinford, England-based firm that moves goods from the U.K. to the EU, said it took six hours -- at least three times longer than usual -- to load one of its trucks up with pharmaceutical products bound for Germany because the customer didn’t have the correct paperwork. Surely after a month or two they will be clear what is required. |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 8, 2021 17:53:29 GMT
A week on from Brexit, the main road to Dover has been so quiet that officials were able to close half of it Thursday for a litter-picking operation without causing delays for drivers. But behind such placid scenes, many truckers are still warning of chaos as they struggle to adjust to the new paperwork required by Britain’s departure from the European Union. Drivers are being held up for hours because they lack the right documents, they say. With traffic well below its usual levels, the pain has so far manifested itself out of sight at factory gates and truckers’ depots. It’s likely to spread to the ports as activity rebounds in coming days, according to seven firms interviewed by Bloomberg. “It’s an absolute mess,” said David Zaccheo, operations manager at Alcaline U.K. Ltd., whose fleet of 145 vehicles shuttles goods between Britain and the EU. “What’s going to happen next week? We’re not even that busy at the moment.” Zaccheo said his firm has had vehicles stuck in Italy since Monday because of a lack of correct transit documents. In another case, a trailer destined for Milan had to wait for two days in the U.K. before it could move because it didn’t have the right paperwork, he said. Not So Fast! What Brexit Means for Border Crossers: QuickTake Faced with the threat of chaos at the border in the weeks after Brexit, many firms decided to stockpile goods or delay deliveries, leaving Dover eerily quiet. Traffic through the port is down 85% from its 2019 average. With the industry expecting activity to pick up in coming days, Britain faces the first major test of its Brexit readiness. Customer Documents “At the moment, the border is in fact flowing and it’s flowing very smoothly,” Transport Secretary Grant Shapps told the BBC on Friday. Less than 1% of vehicles are turning up without the correct paperwork, he said. By far the bigger problem, he said, is drivers not having the Covid test necessary to get into France. While the U.K. may have struck a trade deal with the EU avoiding tariffs and quotas, companies are facing new frictions affecting cross-border trade. Firms now have to fill in forms such as customs declarations and export health certificates that weren’t required when Britain was a member of the bloc. The problem, some logistics firms say, is many customers don’t understand what documents are required. Ellis Blackham, an account manager at JJX Logistics, a Kingswinford, England-based firm that moves goods from the U.K. to the EU, said it took six hours -- at least three times longer than usual -- to load one of its trucks up with pharmaceutical products bound for Germany because the customer didn’t have the correct paperwork. Surely after a month or two they will be clear what is required. The delays will be ongoing from now onwards I’m afraid . Brexit was a sh** idea ..... you’ll realise that for yourself one day Trev ☹️ |
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 8, 2021 18:02:58 GMT
Surely after a month or two they will be clear what is required. The delays will be ongoing from now onwards I’m afraid . Brexit was a sh** idea ..... you’ll realise that for yourself one day Trev ☹️ Not So sure having seen major changes in all sorts of Industries etc over many years,people get used to it becomes the norm and they get on with it . Names Clive I live in Trevor |
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Post by yattongas on Jan 8, 2021 18:18:03 GMT
The delays will be ongoing from now onwards I’m afraid . Brexit was a sh** idea ..... you’ll realise that for yourself one day Trev ☹️ Not So sure having seen major changes in all sorts of Industries etc over many years,people get used to it becomes the norm and they get on with it . Names Clive I live in Trevor Funnily enough my name isn’t Yatton either 😂 People will get in with it but it just won’t be as good/easy as before . |
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Post by trevorgas on Jan 8, 2021 18:27:30 GMT
Not So sure having seen major changes in all sorts of Industries etc over many years,people get used to it becomes the norm and they get on with it . Names Clive I live in Trevor Funnily enough my name isn’t Yatton either 😂 People will get in with it but it just won’t be as good/easy as before . Played a bit of Rugby in Yatton always remember the pitch had a bit of a slope on it. We will see I guess what the true impact will be in a few years. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jan 8, 2021 18:37:45 GMT
Funnily enough my name isn’t Yatton either 😂 People will get in with it but it just won’t be as good/easy as before . Played a bit of Rugby in Yatton always remember the pitch had a bit of a slope on it. We will see I guess what the true impact will be in a few years. Played football there as a youth. Always used to give the Yatton boys a good hiding  |
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