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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Dec 5, 2020 19:44:20 GMT
I'll ask again as my post got deleted. What is it that offends people so much about BLM?
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Dec 5, 2020 19:46:35 GMT
Why ? I may not think like you on many subjects but every Human has always been equal in my thinking. Agreed. Yet that clearly doesn't happen in this country. It's such an easy thing to hide behind "all lives matter" and just bury your head in the sand. Racism is alive and kicking as is constantly shown on social media yet not enough people stand up and say enough is enough. |
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Post by althepirate on Dec 5, 2020 19:51:19 GMT
What Millwall fans did was only showing the dislike of BLM the movement, they are Marxist ( they admit this ) they encourage violence, burning flags, pulling down statues and defacing property. BLM has very little to do with Black people but everything to do with anarchy. Taking the knee was a BLM idea and a very bad idea at that. And to add to that, if it makes you feel uncomfortable, I suggest you take a look at yourself. Didn't take long for you to get nasty when someone has a difference of opinion. Stop abuse for everyone |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 5, 2020 19:58:54 GMT
Sorry, but I'm with Bish here.
Its nonsense to spout "all lives matter"
The phrase Black lives matter doesn't mean they matter more than any other. It means they matter too.
And for too long in the US and the UK black lives have mattered less than white lives.
Thats a simple fact.
If your house is on fire should the fire brigade drench your whole street in water because All houses matter or just yours because it's the one on fire?
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Post by newmarketgas on Dec 5, 2020 20:00:17 GMT
No Country is perfect but this is one of the better ones in my opinion, BLM as a movement is dangerous and nobody needs to take the knee, We just need to keep work together, all the best things take time and last a lot longer.
Enjoy todays win and have a great Weekend.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Dec 5, 2020 20:01:03 GMT
And to add to that, if it makes you feel uncomfortable, I suggest you take a look at yourself. Didn't take long for you to get nasty when someone has a difference of opinion. Stop abuse for everyone Erm, I would argue it was the Millwall fans that "got nasty". Again I'll ask as no one has bothered answering, what is it about BLM that people are offended by? |
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Post by newmarketgas on Dec 5, 2020 20:05:01 GMT
Sorry, but I'm with Bish here. Its nonsense to spout "all lives matter" The phrase Black lives matter doesn't mean they matter more than any other. It means they matter too. And for too long in the US and the UK black lives have mattered less than white lives. Thats a simple fact. If your house is on fire should the fire brigade drench your whole street in water because All houses matter or just yours because it's the one on fire? All lives matter was a statement of fact not spouting anything, BLM as a movement are a Marxist group, they say this themselves ! BLM are dangerous and should be nothing to do with sport. Have a great Weekend and Enjoy the win.  |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 5, 2020 20:05:29 GMT
Didn't take long for you to get nasty when someone has a difference of opinion. Stop abuse for everyone Erm, I would argue it was the Millwall fans that "got nasty". Again I'll ask as no one has bothered answering, what is it about BLM that people are offended by? Does it begin with B?  |
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Post by althepirate on Dec 5, 2020 20:06:11 GMT
Didn't take long for you to get nasty when someone has a difference of opinion. Stop abuse for everyone Erm, I would argue it was the Millwall fans that "got nasty". Again I'll ask as no one has bothered answering, what is it about BLM that people are offended by? People are offended by the brainwashing by the media which I believe seeks to divide people. Stop abuse for everyone. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 5, 2020 20:06:12 GMT
Sorry, but I'm with Bish here. Its nonsense to spout "all lives matter" The phrase Black lives matter doesn't mean they matter more than any other. It means they matter too. And for too long in the US and the UK black lives have mattered less than white lives. Thats a simple fact. If your house is on fire should the fire brigade drench your whole street in water because All houses matter or just yours because it's the one on fire? All lives matter was a statement of fact not spouting anything, BLM as a movement are a Marxist group, they say this themselves ! BLM are dangerous and should be nothing to do with sport. Have a great Weekend and Enjoy the win. Black lives matter is also a statement of fact. |
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Post by newmarketgas on Dec 5, 2020 20:09:18 GMT
All lives matter was a statement of fact not spouting anything, BLM as a movement are a Marxist group, they say this themselves ! BLM are dangerous and should be nothing to do with sport. Have a great Weekend and Enjoy the win. Black lives matter is also a statement of fact Yes, but BLM as a movement are a pain in the arse and pretty much ruined it for themselves. BLM as a movement seems to enjoy dividing people for fun. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 5, 2020 20:15:29 GMT
Black lives matter is also a statement of fact Yes, but BLM as a movement are a pain in the arse and pretty much ruined it for themselves. BLM as a movement seems to enjoy dividing people for fun. So you are ok with the fans booing the knee then? The knee is a gesture of solidarity for players of all ethnicities and cultures to come together and show that racism needs to stop. That some parts of the BLM movement may be radical, I'm sure we both know that's not what the players up and down the country are advocating. |
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Post by pirate on Dec 5, 2020 20:15:39 GMT
"Trained Marxists" (says BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors) and funded by George Soros and his Open Society Foundations to the tune of £33 million. Millwall and West Ham fans have every right to boo this engineered political agenda.
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Post by ineedgas on Dec 5, 2020 20:22:33 GMT
All lives matter was a statement of fact not spouting anything, BLM as a movement are a Marxist group, they say this themselves ! BLM are dangerous and should be nothing to do with sport. Have a great Weekend and Enjoy the win. Black lives matter is also a statement of fact. Can you explain what the fact is about blm And don't just say I don't understand about you ideology Do you take the knee before you start work I know I don't |
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Post by newmarketgas on Dec 5, 2020 20:24:33 GMT
Yes, but BLM as a movement are a pain in the arse and pretty much ruined it for themselves. BLM as a movement seems to enjoy dividing people for fun. So you are ok with the fans booing the knee then? The knee is a gesture of solidarity for players of all ethnicities and cultures to come together and show that racism needs to stop. That some parts of the BLM movement may be radical, I'm sure we both know that's not what the players up and down the country are advocating. Yes I am against taking the knee, lower the head might be sensible, taking the knee is not the right gesture at all. You must know your history, taking the knee is is a sign of submission ( as the BLM movement well knows ) not a sign of we are equals. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 5, 2020 20:25:32 GMT
Black lives matter is also a statement of fact. Can you explain what the fact is about blm And don't just say I don't understand about you ideology Do you take the knee before you start work I know I don't You dont think it's a factual statement to say that black lives matter??? f**k me. Where to begin.... |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 5, 2020 20:26:46 GMT
So you are ok with the fans booing the knee then? The knee is a gesture of solidarity for players of all ethnicities and cultures to come together and show that racism needs to stop. That some parts of the BLM movement may be radical, I'm sure we both know that's not what the players up and down the country are advocating. Yes I am against taking the knee, lower the head might be sensible, taking the knee is not the right gesture at all. You must know your history, taking the knee is is a sign of submission ( as the BLM movement well knows ) not a sign of we are equals. Exactly the point. Solidarity. If EVERYONE is doing it, we are all the same. |
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Post by newmarketgas on Dec 5, 2020 20:28:58 GMT
Yes I am against taking the knee, lower the head might be sensible, taking the knee is not the right gesture at all. You must know your history, taking the knee is is a sign of submission ( as the BLM movement well knows ) not a sign of we are equals. Exactly the point. Solidarity. If EVERYONE is doing it, we are all the same. Ok, then all stand on one leg and hop. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Dec 5, 2020 20:30:27 GMT
Exactly the point. Solidarity. If EVERYONE is doing it, we are all the same. Ok, then all stand on one leg and hop. Is hopping symbolic of historical oppression then? Must have missed that. |
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Post by newmarketgas on Dec 5, 2020 20:39:58 GMT
Ok, then all stand on one leg and hop. Is hopping symbolic of historical oppression then? Must have missed that. Now you are admitting the whole take the knee thing is about everyone looking up to BLM as they submit to them ? You are being obtuse with your choice of words, I said submission you changed it to oppression. |
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