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Post by oldie on Jun 8, 2021 8:41:50 GMT
Couldn't decide which thread to post this in.  Thats great |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jun 8, 2021 9:17:06 GMT
Firstly I dont have a principle problem with footballers taking a knee if that's what they want to do. But I do have a problem with how flaccid and ineffectual it is. Both sides of the argument here talking like it actually matters.
If you want to make real meaningful change how about joining a political pressure group or donating some of your astronomical wages to a cause? Do something actually useful otherwise whats the point. You took a knee, great, well done, now what? Nothing. You have shown your virtue extends to kneeling down in front of a crowd.
If you really believe in it, do something more. Kneel down if you want but don't stop there surely
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Post by yattongas on Jun 8, 2021 9:34:02 GMT
Firstly I dont have a principle problem with footballers taking a knee if that's what they want to do. But I do have a problem with how flaccid and ineffectual it is. Both sides of the argument here talking like it actually matters. If you want to make real meaningful change how about joining a political pressure group or donating some of your astronomical wages to a cause? Do something actually useful otherwise whats the point. You took a knee, great, well done, now what? Nothing. You have shown your virtue extends to kneeling down in front of a crowd. If you really believe in it, do something more. Kneel down if you want but don't stop there surely Off the top of my head I know that Kane and Rashford give a lot of money for worthy causes. I expect others do as well but probably don’t shout about it . The more taken the knee is booed the more it should carry on IMO . |
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Post by oldie on Jun 8, 2021 11:03:45 GMT
Firstly I dont have a principle problem with footballers taking a knee if that's what they want to do. But I do have a problem with how flaccid and ineffectual it is. Both sides of the argument here talking like it actually matters. If you want to make real meaningful change how about joining a political pressure group or donating some of your astronomical wages to a cause? Do something actually useful otherwise whats the point. You took a knee, great, well done, now what? Nothing. You have shown your virtue extends to kneeling down in front of a crowd. If you really believe in it, do something more. Kneel down if you want but don't stop there surely I dont think any reasonable person would argue with that. It has become a bit of "gesture politics" now. But, what I do not understand is why anyone would get upset enough to boo players taking part before a game, or why so many get so hot under the collar about it. This forum being a good example. |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jun 8, 2021 12:41:30 GMT
Firstly I dont have a principle problem with footballers taking a knee if that's what they want to do. But I do have a problem with how flaccid and ineffectual it is. Both sides of the argument here talking like it actually matters. If you want to make real meaningful change how about joining a political pressure group or donating some of your astronomical wages to a cause? Do something actually useful otherwise whats the point. You took a knee, great, well done, now what? Nothing. You have shown your virtue extends to kneeling down in front of a crowd. If you really believe in it, do something more. Kneel down if you want but don't stop there surely I dont think any reasonable person would argue with that. It has become a bit of "gesture politics" now. But, what I do not understand is why anyone would get upset enough to boo players taking part before a game, or why so many get so hot under the collar about it. This forum being a good example. The racists you mean? |
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Post by oldie on Jun 8, 2021 14:08:57 GMT
I dont think any reasonable person would argue with that. It has become a bit of "gesture politics" now. But, what I do not understand is why anyone would get upset enough to boo players taking part before a game, or why so many get so hot under the collar about it. This forum being a good example. The racists you mean? Ha ha Yes, thats how it appears to me. |
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Post by yattongas on Jun 8, 2021 15:10:15 GMT
Ha ha Yes, thats how it appears to me. To stop at this point after the booing would only embolden the racists and give them the win . Let’s not beat about the bush here , it’s racists who are booing this and anyone who says otherwise is an apologist. |
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Post by yattongas on Jun 8, 2021 16:32:52 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jun 8, 2021 17:14:38 GMT
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Post by Gassy on Jun 8, 2021 17:29:12 GMT
Who ever knew Southgate was a Marxist?
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Post by yattongas on Jun 8, 2021 17:36:25 GMT
Who ever knew Southgate was a Marxist? When I’m rich I hope to join the millionaire Marxist club as well 😃 |
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Post by axegas on Jun 9, 2021 12:14:13 GMT
Who ever knew Southgate was a Marxist? He was always good at marking as a defender. |
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Post by baggins on Jun 9, 2021 12:36:16 GMT
Can someone give just a one line definition as to what a Marxist it? I always thought he just had several hits in the late 80's?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 12:59:23 GMT
Can someone give just a one line definition as to what a Marxist it? I always thought he just had several hits in the late 80's? it's small m 'marxist' really, the capital is bourgeois, therefore abolished. that's an example of what one of those marxist might say. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 13:41:59 GMT
Firstly I dont have a principle problem with footballers taking a knee if that's what they want to do. But I do have a problem with how flaccid and ineffectual it is. Both sides of the argument here talking like it actually matters. If you want to make real meaningful change how about joining a political pressure group or donating some of your astronomical wages to a cause? Do something actually useful otherwise whats the point. You took a knee, great, well done, now what? Nothing. You have shown your virtue extends to kneeling down in front of a crowd. If you really believe in it, do something more. Kneel down if you want but don't stop there surely I dont think any reasonable person would argue with that. It has become a bit of "gesture politics" now. But, what I do not understand is why anyone would get upset enough to boo players taking part before a game, or why so many get so hot under the collar about it. This forum being a good example. the booing is a symptom of a racist country. there is a saying - the stupider you are, the happier you are. that works quite well in this case. |
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Post by pirate on Jun 9, 2021 13:57:15 GMT
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Post by oldie on Jun 9, 2021 14:10:40 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jun 9, 2021 14:15:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 14:32:31 GMT
hi pirate, how much is your house worth? had your vaccine yet? |
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Post by baggins on Jun 9, 2021 15:19:57 GMT
Can someone give just a one line definition as to what a Marxist it? I always thought he just had several hits in the late 80's? it's small m 'marxist' really, the capital is bourgeois, therefore abolished. that's an example of what one of those marxist might say. Didn't help but thanks. |
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