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Post by trevorgas on Nov 9, 2022 8:30:08 GMT
Well I suppose we should be glad that when Sunak said his government would be accountable he was accurate. Williamson has been found out and has walked/ been sacked / left. Good riddance. What an excuse for a politician, couldn’t keep his mouth closed or keep security secrets as the Defence Secretary, was the most incompetent Educational Secretary that I can remember and now proved to be a bully to the people he works with. Just when you thought things were quietening down...... He was one who knew where the skeletons were being a former Chief Whip. In other news I see 'HMS Boris' has been effectively shelved, only cost £25m in initial designs, apparently. Does make me laugh ,chief whip getting upset,they are more than capable of dishing out the verbals when needs be. |
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 9, 2022 13:19:01 GMT
Well I suppose we should be glad that when Sunak said his government would be accountable he was accurate. Williamson has been found out and has walked/ been sacked / left. Good riddance. What an excuse for a politician, couldn’t keep his mouth closed or keep security secrets as the Defence Secretary, was the most incompetent Educational Secretary that I can remember and now proved to be a bully to the people he works with. Just when you thought things were quietening down...... He was one who knew where the skeletons were being a former Chief Whip. In other news I see 'HMS Boris' has been effectively shelved, only cost £25m in initial designs, apparently. Indeed. And used that information to bully and intimidate people. That must be against the ministerial code surely. Time will tell as ever as to what happens to him but at least we will not see him again in government. |
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Post by axegas on Nov 9, 2022 15:46:12 GMT
I watched the PMQ's and it was like Starmer was the headmaster and Sunak the naughty schoolboy. You can tell Starmer used to be a barrister.
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Post by Gassy on Nov 9, 2022 22:47:59 GMT
I watched the PMQ's and it was like Starmer was the headmaster and Sunak the naughty schoolboy. You can tell Starmer used to be a barrister. Just watched some highlights, have to say it was refreshing to see Sunak actually answer questions, rather than the usual crap spouted. However, he looked weak to me. Maybe he’ll grow into it but Starmer looked in full control IMO |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 10, 2022 11:50:39 GMT
I watched the PMQ's and it was like Starmer was the headmaster and Sunak the naughty schoolboy. You can tell Starmer used to be a barrister. Just watched some highlights, have to say it was refreshing to see Sunak actually answer questions, rather than the usual crap spouted. However, he looked weak to me. Maybe he’ll grow into it but Starmer looked in full control IMO 6-0 Starmer |
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 10, 2022 12:15:45 GMT
Just watched some highlights, have to say it was refreshing to see Sunak actually answer questions, rather than the usual crap spouted. However, he looked weak to me. Maybe he’ll grow into it but Starmer looked in full control IMO 6-0 Starmer Perhaps at future PM’s questions Starmer might actually tell us what he proposes to do to sort everything out, instead of constantly slagging off the tories. However I doubt will ever hear that anytime soon. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 10, 2022 12:20:06 GMT
Perhaps at future PM’s questions Starmer might actually tell us what he proposes to do to sort everything out, instead of constantly slagging off the tories. However I doubt will ever hear that anytime soon. Think you’re missing the point of PM questions …..the clue is in the name . |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 10, 2022 12:46:18 GMT
Perhaps at future PM’s questions Starmer might actually tell us what he proposes to do to sort everything out, instead of constantly slagging off the tories. However I doubt will ever hear that anytime soon. Think you’re missing the point of PM questions …..the clue is in the name . Should really be called Prime Minister's Answers, although that would fall foul of the Trades Description Act. While we're at it, should be called His Majesty's Alternative. It may actually mean they propose alternatives rather than oppose. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 10, 2022 13:05:57 GMT
Perhaps at future PM’s questions Starmer might actually tell us what he proposes to do to sort everything out, instead of constantly slagging off the tories. However I doubt will ever hear that anytime soon. Think you’re missing the point of PM questions …..the clue is in the name . Not at all. Have been waiting patiently for Starmer to tell us what he proposes and for some reason he is very reluctant to do so. I wonder why? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 10, 2022 13:11:25 GMT
Think you’re missing the point of PM questions …..the clue is in the name . Not at all. Have been waiting patiently for Starmer to tell us what he proposes and for some reason he is very reluctant to do so. I wonder why? We are still two years out from a GE. Some things have been announced (Brexit and windfall taxes for example) but I expect they are keeping their powder dry. As Napoleon said, when the enemy is making mistakes, don't interfere. |
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Post by bidefordgas on Nov 10, 2022 13:21:06 GMT
Not at all. Have been waiting patiently for Starmer to tell us what he proposes and for some reason he is very reluctant to do so. I wonder why? We are still two years out from a GE. Some things have been announced (Brexit and windfall taxes for example) but I expect they are keeping their powder dry. As Napoleon said, when the enemy is making mistakes, don't interfere. But Mr Starmer is calling for an election now, I and no doubt many others would like to know what his policy’s are other than a windfall tax that we all know will raise peanuts on the grand scale of things. I think you and I know he does not want an election now because he does not have a clue to whats required. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 10, 2022 15:19:18 GMT
Think you’re missing the point of PM questions …..the clue is in the name . Not at all. Have been waiting patiently for Starmer to tell us what he proposes and for some reason he is very reluctant to do so. I wonder why? Not sure how you can say that ? It’s PMs questions not Opposition’s leaders time to lay out his plans . Labour has laid out some of it plans , GB energy and the ludicrous make Brexit work nonsense 🙄😂. As Stu points out , you don’t reveal your plans / ideas too early or the other parties can just pinch your ideas and claim them as their own . |
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Post by oldie on Nov 10, 2022 15:44:48 GMT
We are still two years out from a GE. Some things have been announced (Brexit and windfall taxes for example) but I expect they are keeping their powder dry. As Napoleon said, when the enemy is making mistakes, don't interfere. But Mr Starmer is calling for an election now, I and no doubt many others would like to know what his policy’s are other than a windfall tax that we all know will raise peanuts on the grand scale of things. I think you and I know he does not want an election now because he does not have a clue to whats required. I agree at some point Labour will have to define and quantify their election offer. But tactically they have no reason to do so until an election is called, something which is not in their remit. They have called for one consistently since Johnson resigned. In the meantime they can sit back and watch this utter sh*t show in Government. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 11, 2022 20:04:37 GMT
Nigel Garage's Reform Party is a bit worrying for Labour voters IMO. A lot of people seem to be saying it's bad for the tories but I don't think it is. Reform could take some of the middle votes and end up getting into bed with the tories to suit both parties (akin to when Tories had a minority and Lib Dems got into bed with them to get into power.)
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Post by oldie on Nov 12, 2022 10:07:25 GMT
Nigel Garage's Reform Party is a bit worrying for Labour voters IMO. A lot of people seem to be saying it's bad for the tories but I don't think it is. Reform could take some of the middle votes and end up getting into bed with the tories to suit both parties (akin to when Tories had a minority and Lib Dems got into bed with them to get into power.) Farage was a one trick pony. That delusion has been exposed by reality |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 12, 2022 11:38:40 GMT
Nigel Garage's Reform Party is a bit worrying for Labour voters IMO. A lot of people seem to be saying it's bad for the tories but I don't think it is. Reform could take some of the middle votes and end up getting into bed with the tories to suit both parties (akin to when Tories had a minority and Lib Dems got into bed with them to get into power.) Farage was a one trick pony. That delusion has been exposed by reality What do you mean? |
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Post by oldie on Nov 12, 2022 12:06:28 GMT
Farage was a one trick pony. That delusion has been exposed by reality What do you mean? Think about it. Or Name and quantify a benefit resulting from Brexit. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 12, 2022 12:36:04 GMT
Think about it. Or Name and quantify a benefit resulting from Brexit. I was against Brexit. This isn't about Brexit, this is about him splitting votes. |
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Post by fintanstack on Nov 12, 2022 12:59:12 GMT
Farage was a one trick pony. That delusion has been exposed by reality What do you mean? Farage only got popular because he peddled anti EU and Brexit propaganda. He has subsequently been proven a fool so would be surprised if anyone fell for his particular brand of bullshit again. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 12, 2022 15:56:28 GMT
Farage only got popular because he peddled anti EU and Brexit propaganda. He has subsequently been proven a fool so would be surprised if anyone fell for his particular brand of bullshit again. I was surprised that over half the country thought Brexit was a good idea. I was surprised that people thought Liz Truss was our best choice as PM. People are idiots. |
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