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Post by Gastafari on Apr 8, 2021 17:26:47 GMT
Precisely Yatton. Gastafari Its a direct question. When outcomes are so similar, is it because of very similar societal characteristics? In your opinion What outcomes are you referring too? I'm still struggling. Give me some examples. Are you meaning why Afro-carribbean pupils 'Underperform' at school? Why the highest % of Single parent households are within that group? Why Afro-carribbean kids are disproportionately stopped by Police? Why Afro-carribbean kids are disproportionately involved in Knife crime and gang culture? What societal characteristics are you referring too? Im asking you a direct question to explain what you're getting at? |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 8, 2021 17:44:00 GMT
Those Afro Caribbean who under perform at school will earn less in their lifetime than white kids who also under perform at school. I think the disparity was by up to 30% less on average. I wonder why ?
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 8, 2021 17:55:36 GMT
Those Afro Caribbean who under perform at school will earn less in their lifetime than white kids who also under perform at school. I think the disparity was by up to 30% less on average. I wonder why ? And also earn less than Black African, Indian and Chinese too. Why? |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 8, 2021 17:56:47 GMT
Those Afro Caribbean who under perform at school will earn less in their lifetime than white kids who also under perform at school. I think the disparity was by up to 30% less on average. I wonder why ? And also earn less than Black African, Indian and Chinese too. Why? I’m asking you , you’ve done the research I thought ? |
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 8, 2021 17:59:35 GMT
And also earn less than Black African, Indian and Chinese too. Why? I’m asking you , you’ve done the research I thought ? So you should already know then by the outweighing evidence 🙂 |
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Post by oldie on Apr 8, 2021 18:03:36 GMT
And also earn less than Black African, Indian and Chinese too. Why? I’m asking you , you’ve done the research I thought ? Jesus Gastafari. One last time. Official stats tell us that white working class kids perform as badly as Afro Carribbean kids in education. You have indicated that you believe that the Afro Carribbean performance is driven by their societal characteristics. So do you think the same characteristics are applicable to white working class kids? |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 8, 2021 18:07:51 GMT
I’m asking you , you’ve done the research I thought ? So you should already know then by the outweighing evidence 🙂 🙃 |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 9, 2021 17:40:29 GMT
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 9, 2021 19:58:35 GMT
Picked up on this bit: "The research – a chart from which features in the recent report of the Commission on Racial and Ethnic Disparities – found clear and incontrovertible evidence of high levels of direct discrimination against applicants from ethnic minority backgrounds, whether deliberate or unconscious" Did they do any research regarding Polish, Albanian or other Eastern European names, too? There may be some bias against names that aren't the 'Norm', but is there any evidence that its about race? Also worth noting that many people from the Afro-carribbean community, have 'English' names. |
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 9, 2021 23:09:20 GMT
I’m asking you , you’ve done the research I thought ? Jesus Gastafari. One last time. Official stats tell us that white working class kids perform as badly as Afro Carribbean kids in education. You have indicated that you believe that the Afro Carribbean performance is driven by their societal characteristics. So do you think the same characteristics are applicable to white working class kids? Apologies Oldie, have only just seen your reply. Once again, you have to delve deeper. I've asked you what 'White' working class kids? White British? White Irish? White Polish etc. There will be some that have similar societal characteristics, yes. I've mentioned this before that people from 'White Irish' backgrounds performance in education is lower than 'White British'. It's not a coincidence imo that they also have the highest % of single parent households compared to 'White British' or 'White other'. ' The same applies to Afro-carribbean compared to other Black groups too. You might not like to hear it, but it's an honest assesment from me, somebody who's been brought up within that community, was educated not just in primary but also secondary school made up of predominantly people from that community, its also backed up with actual evidence and statistics. I'm honest enough to say that it's a big problem not only here but also in the US in places like Baltimore where I've spent time in. Family structure and not having fathers around for me is a major factor. Instead of getting offended and blaming it on stereotypes, we need to be honest about it. Once again, my whole stance has been that it has nothing to do with race. Which by the sounds of it, you agree. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 11, 2021 14:26:47 GMT
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Post by oldie on Apr 11, 2021 16:41:16 GMT
If true This is just awful...this and an attempt to deny our right to protest It seems we are sleepwalking |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 19:36:16 GMT
If true This is just awful...this and an attempt to deny our right to protest It seems we are sleepwalking It is utterly ridiculous, that article is damning of the report isn't it, another catastrophe for the fools in government. The plan from the nationalists seems to be to deflect and prevent a reasoned discussion... No surprises really Ideological nonsense yet again |
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 11, 2021 20:13:13 GMT
If true This is just awful...this and an attempt to deny our right to protest It seems we are sleepwalking If true. It's from The Guardian, so very doubtful it will be. I am sure if people started posting links of articles from The Daily Mail, you wouldn't believe most of it, and rightly so. The Guardian is no different. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 11, 2021 20:38:06 GMT
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Post by Gassy on Apr 11, 2021 21:10:04 GMT
If true This is just awful...this and an attempt to deny our right to protest It seems we are sleepwalking If true. It's from The Guardian, so very doubtful it will be. I am sure if people started posting links of articles from The Daily Mail, you wouldn't believe most of it, and rightly so. The Guardian is no different. You compare the Daily Mail with the Guardian? 😂 If you had said the mirror, I’d be inclined to agree but Dam hell 😂 |
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Post by oldie on Apr 11, 2021 21:19:53 GMT
If true This is just awful...this and an attempt to deny our right to protest It seems we are sleepwalking If true. It's from The Guardian, so very doubtful it will be. I am sure if people started posting links of articles from The Daily Mail, you wouldn't believe most of it, and rightly so. The Guardian is no different. Gastafari As much as you seek to defend their conclusions there is just too much noise about this report to not have serious doubts about its wording. Btw, I will come back to you on the education outcomes equivalence between white working class kids and their afro carribbean peers. |
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Post by peterparker on Apr 11, 2021 21:26:19 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56707979Unreal A black US army lieutenant has filed a lawsuit against two policemen who pointed their guns and pepper-sprayed him during a traffic stop. Army Second Lieutenant Caron Nazario is wearing his uniform during the bodycam footage, taken in December in Virginia. "I'm honestly afraid to get out," he tells the two police officers. "Yeah you should be," an officer says.
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Post by Gastafari on Apr 11, 2021 21:27:20 GMT
If true. It's from The Guardian, so very doubtful it will be. I am sure if people started posting links of articles from The Daily Mail, you wouldn't believe most of it, and rightly so. The Guardian is no different. You compare the Daily Mail with the Guardian? 😂 If you had said the mirror, I’d be inclined to agree but f**king hell 😂 I do yeah. Both at the complete opposite ends of the spectrum of course. Right and Left. But they're no different. |
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Post by yattongas on Apr 11, 2021 21:38:34 GMT
You compare the Daily Mail with the Guardian? 😂 If you had said the mirror, I’d be inclined to agree but f**king hell 😂 I do yeah. Both at the complete opposite ends of the spectrum of course. Right and Left. But they're no different. 😂👏 |
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