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Post by stevek192 on Dec 6, 2014 22:23:11 GMT
To the Tbones and others who are more than capable of writing a match report to criticise players they haven't seen play today as on the Match Thread. Unbelievable how people can comment intelligently on something they have not witnessed. They are so sure they know who played well and who played badly and how the Manager performed that perhaps we should have a thread on Match report on Welling v Bristol Rovers by anybody who did not attend the game.
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Post by ganymede on Dec 6, 2014 22:34:09 GMT
To the Tbones and others who are more than capable of writing a match report to criticise players they haven't seen play today as on the Match Thread. Unbelievable how people can comment intelligently on something they have not witnessed. They are so sure they know who played well and who played badly and how the Manager performed that perhaps we should have a thread on Match report on Welling v Bristol Rovers by anybody who did not attend the game. That's a pity because I (and many others) like to read your take on the game (both when I watch the match and when I can't be there ... which is most away games). Thanks for the past reports; I have always found them informative.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 22:37:07 GMT
To the Tbones and others who are more than capable of writing a match report to criticise players they haven't seen play today as on the Match Thread. Unbelievable how people can comment intelligently on something they have not witnessed. They are so sure they know who played well and who played badly and how the Manager performed that perhaps we should have a thread on Match report on Welling v Bristol Rovers by anybody who did not attend the game. I hope that you'll sleep on it Steve, and maybe reconsider in the morning. Like ganymede, and I'm sure many others on here, I always look forward to reading your reports, as "the voice of reason" amongst the madness.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 22:47:27 GMT
I would appreciate it if you refrain from dragging me in to crap like this. I unlike others will not come on here and give praise to players that do not do their job. If a player deserves credit I will, and have done, give due praise.I dont attend away matches as I have tennis commitments on a Saturday. Sorry if I cant please you and watch my team in away matches, but thats it I'm afraid. Toodlepip. Sleep tight.
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Post by stigofthegas on Dec 6, 2014 23:01:37 GMT
I said it once before that my match day isn't complete until I have read what SteveK has had to say. Even my wife now asks what SteveK thought of the game.
And we all know about TBone - he clearly annoyed loads on here earlier - I suggested he might try to bring some intelligence to his posts.
That has never been a problem with your reports. Keep them coming Steve.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 6, 2014 23:03:51 GMT
To the Tbones and others who are more than capable of writing a match report to criticise players they haven't seen play today as on the Match Thread. Unbelievable how people can comment intelligently on something they have not witnessed. They are so sure they know who played well and who played badly and how the Manager performed that perhaps we should have a thread on Match report on Welling v Bristol Rovers by anybody who did not attend the game. Why not just repeat your report from the last few away games i.e. the defence played well, the midfield put in a battling performance, upfront we never looked like scoring as, apart from Chester, that's been the case for the last couple of months. We really have continued on from last season away from home in that DC doesn't seem to have a clue how to win an away game, if LDV has played his last game for Rovers you do have to fear we might not win another away game again this season, unless we snatch a goal and hold out for 90 mins which is how we got our last victory at Telford.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 6, 2014 23:05:35 GMT
To the Tbones and others who are more than capable of writing a match report to criticise players they haven't seen play today as on the Match Thread. Unbelievable how people can comment intelligently on something they have not witnessed. They are so sure they know who played well and who played badly and how the Manager performed that perhaps we should have a thread on Match report on Welling v Bristol Rovers by anybody who did not attend the game. I didn't watch the game today so will write my match report : We didn't score and neither did they.
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Post by stigofthegas on Dec 6, 2014 23:05:53 GMT
I would appreciate it if you refrain from dragging me in to crap like this. I unlike others will not come on here and give praise to players that do not do their job. If a player deserves credit I will, and have done, give due praise.I dont attend away matches as I have tennis commitments on a Saturday. Sorry if I cant please you and watch my team in away matches, but thats it I'm afraid. Toodlepip. Sleep tight. Steve said exactly what loads of us think about your posts. Post intelligently and there will be no problems. Post like you did earlier and people will right call you out. The "crap" you have been dragged into is 100% of your own making.
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Post by swissgas on Dec 6, 2014 23:06:51 GMT
Steve I always enjoy reading your reports as well and although I haven't seen a game for four years I still feel entitled to make a comment.
It's clear to everyone our midfield and attack are not performing as well as we all hoped and surely it doesn't do any good to pretend otherwise ? We've fallen into that trap so many times and last season was a good example when John Ward insisted our strikers had goals in them when those like you who went to matches disagreed and those of us who couldn't go to matches only had to look at the stats to see there was no basis for expecting our strikers would score the amount of goals we needed. Unless there was some way John Ward could unlock potential which had not previously been realized and as it turned out he couldn't.
Most fans have been calling for extra firepower and the majority seemed satisfied with the signing of Blissett, the loaning of Goldberg and Wall plus the introduction of Balanta into the team. Do you think these players are good enough or do you expect a number of new signings to strengthen the midfield and attack in January ?
My view based upon what I read and hear, and specifically what Darrell Clarke says, is that there is a great danger in loading much too much on the shoulders of Balanta and Blissett. Balanta from the standpoint of fitness and adjustment to playing games week in week out in the Conference which I think could put a strain on him both physically and mentally. Blissett from the standpoint of being able to knock off those "rough edges" as Darrell call them and not set him up to fail before the clumsiness and lack of tactical awareness is smoothed out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 23:09:18 GMT
I would appreciate it if you refrain from dragging me in to crap like this. I unlike others will not come on here and give praise to players that do not do their job. If a player deserves credit I will, and have done, give due praise.I dont attend away matches as I have tennis commitments on a Saturday. Sorry if I cant please you and watch my team in away matches, but thats it I'm afraid. Toodlepip. Sleep tight. Steve said exactly what loads of us think about your posts. Post intelligently and there will be no problems. Post like you did earlier and people will right call you out. The "crap" you have been dragged into is 100% of your own making. Wasnt talking to you. Sorry if you didnt get that.
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Post by wutangkillerbees on Dec 6, 2014 23:29:25 GMT
Steve said exactly what loads of us think about your posts. Post intelligently and there will be no problems. Post like you did earlier and people will right call you out. The "crap" you have been dragged into is 100% of your own making. Wasnt talking to you. Sorry if you didnt get that. Ahahaha you are such a plum
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 6, 2014 23:33:59 GMT
To the Tbones and others who are more than capable of writing a match report to criticise players they haven't seen play today as on the Match Thread. Unbelievable how people can comment intelligently on something they have not witnessed. They are so sure they know who played well and who played badly and how the Manager performed that perhaps we should have a thread on Match report on Welling v Bristol Rovers by anybody who did not attend the game. Why not just repeat your report from the last few away games i.e. the defence played well, the midfield put in a battling performance, upfront we never looked like scoring as, apart from Chester, that's been the case for the last couple of months. We really have continued on from last season away from home in that DC doesn't seem to have a clue how to win an away game, if LDV has played his last game for Rovers you do have to fear we might not win another away game again this season, unless we snatch a goal and hold out for 90 mins which is how we got our last victory at Telford. I think someone has forgot to take their anti depressasants. Are things really that bad this season?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 23:41:01 GMT
I'm genuinely not sure how we're 2nd and I go in to every game with maximum apprehension due to it being non-league but I'll certainly take it at this stage of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 23:48:05 GMT
To the Tbones and others who are more than capable of writing a match report to criticise players they haven't seen play today as on the Match Thread. Unbelievable how people can comment intelligently on something they have not witnessed. They are so sure they know who played well and who played badly and how the Manager performed that perhaps we should have a thread on Match report on Welling v Bristol Rovers by anybody who did not attend the game. Steve, Like many others I fully enjoy your match reports and we generally seem to watch the same game. Please continue your reports for the vast majority who appreciate them and ignore those with polarised views who seek to disrupt and undermine. I couldn't be at todays game so I'll forward to a good read tomorrow (hopefully)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 0:03:03 GMT
To the Tbones and others who are more than capable of writing a match report to criticise players they haven't seen play today as on the Match Thread. Unbelievable how people can comment intelligently on something they have not witnessed. They are so sure they know who played well and who played badly and how the Manager performed that perhaps we should have a thread on Match report on Welling v Bristol Rovers by anybody who did not attend the game. Steve I think it is a shame that you have let peoples negativity upset you to the extent that you can't post as you normally do. I always look forward to getting first hand reports from Rovers travels.
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Post by stevek192 on Dec 7, 2014 0:18:15 GMT
Apologies to Tbone but it is frustrating to read so many criticisms of OUR team and OUR Manager based on a game that people haven't seen. Back to the Match today I would have entitled it " Should have been 3 points but another undefeated game" For those who witnessed today's game I am sure most went away cursing the inability of our team to pick the right final ball whether this be the pass or cross to create a goal or the final shot at goal to put it in the net. In truth this game should have been put to bed in the very early stages and definitely in the second half but to be fair to Welling they do have a very good home record and in honesty the condition of the pitch did not help a side trying to play football. In my opinion all through the game it looked like one of those games that we would do everything but score and then Welling would score a goal completely out of the blue. They did have their moments where this could have happened but thankfully it didn't and I am sure DC is feeling as frustrated as us fans that we cannot turn good possession into goals. You wonder if he is trying too hard to find the answer now by changing formation and also personnel on a regular basis and is his making 3 substitutions a sign that he has made a mistake in the first place. Constant changes cannot lead to good understandings or bring about a striking partnership but looking at it another way how many players have actually put a strong case for keeping the same players? At least I would say that DC is willing to change things unlike Ward who would always wait until the magical 70th minute to make changes irrespective of how poorly we were playing. Spiess 6.5 A very good debu. Looks confident and made two good saves accompanied by good distribution throughout. Thankfully one carelessly dropped ball near the end did not ruin a competant debut. Lockyer 7 Much better game from Tom today and unlucky not to score his first goal of the season with a header that was cleared off the line. Defended manfully and there was also a much improved passing performance. McCrystal 7 Gave a solid performance in a back three that gave little away. When Mark plays the game within his limitations he is a very good defender at this level. Parkes 7.5 Another commanding display by Tom and thankfully we can say that defence is not our problem area with three clean sheets on the trot. Brown 8 A very good all round display and shows tremendous fitness to be able to overlap so often and yet still remain solid with his winger rarely getting the better of him. Sinclair 6.5 Not so effective as a wide man as compared to central midfield but is the usual move by DC to accommodate Clarke in midfield. Can't help feeling that there were a few too many accumulative changes todayand we lost the understanding and effectiveness that the Mansell/Sinclair partnership has given us. Mansell 8 MOM Never stopped prompting from start to finish. Played most passes simply and well and kept us moving forward Clarke 6.5 A very mixed game with some good moments but also gave away possession cheaply at times. IMO the three man midfield will only work with two wingbacks and to keep changing will not bring about consistency in the midfield area. Ollie Clarke does bring a bit more attacking threat to the midfield but at a cost particularly if the wingers are forfeited. Balanta 5.5 Don't feel it really worked playing him in the "hole" and in doing this I believe we suffered not only with the loss LDV but the loss of Balanta as well. Ironically he was brought off when he was probably in the middle of his best spell of the game and actually starting to create something with his delightful running at the opposition. I still feel he is a little off full match fitness but personally I would have taken off Clarke and put Balanta out wide and Sinclair back in the middle. Goldberg 5 An exciting start to the game but failed to take a good chance early on and did not have enough good possession to influence the game. Like Taylor for me he spends too much of his time running the lines and dropping deep rather than playing off the shoulder. Blissett 5 Apart from a good header down in the first half not much went right for him Gosling 6.5 A good performance from the substitute and created a few opportunities but also missed the best chance of the second half. His appearance coincided with Lee Brown making in roads down the left hand side and it was with their partnership that came the best chance of winning the game. Wall 5.5 Another good free kick and a header just over but trying to find a striking partnership is something that DC is not finding easy and constant changing is not helping. Taylor 5 Can't recall any real influence on the game . Referee 5 Fussy but a little better than some we have had. DC 5 It's all about opinion but without knowing the full circumstances as regards fitness of players it is difficult to mark his decisions in terms of both the formation selection and the personnel. I tend to think that you learn more about the possibility of partnerships by trying different things in stages. ie the partnership of Blissett and Wall had about 5 minutes and within a 10 minute spell all three attackers had been removed without really having a great deal of good service. Anyway to conclude there is no real need for the negativity which is evident on this forum. If we are in the mix come January 3rd then it will not be a bad first 4 months. Barnet's 9 point lead is hardly insurmountable and to say that if teams win their games in hand we will drop right out of the Play offs is little short of ridiculous as some of these teams games in hand will be against each other and any team in this league is capable of beating each other but come to think of that statement how many teams are actually beating us? The next 4 games could have a big influence on our season as I don't see Gateshead, Macclesfield or Torquay shutting up shop and that could just prove to be to our advantage. So my message to gasheads is show a bit more patience and particularly lets see what the January transfer dealings bring. I am sure that our Board will give DC the backing to do what is necessary and that could mean an experienced striker in the door and possibly a replacement for Della Verde if we lose him. decisions will of course have to be made on Martin,Walland Goldberg. I think there will be exciting times ahead and i certainly wouldn't even consider forgetting winning the Title.
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Post by swissgas on Dec 7, 2014 0:32:59 GMT
Thanks Steve you have answered my question by suggesting in January we should sign an experienced striker and a replacement for Della Verde.
I think that would be the right thing to do because if we don't then too big a burden will be placed on the shoulders of Balanta and Blissett and we could end up wasting the longer term potential they offer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 1:03:02 GMT
To the Tbones and others who are more than capable of writing a match report to criticise players they haven't seen play today as on the Match Thread. Unbelievable how people can comment intelligently on something they have not witnessed. They are so sure they know who played well and who played badly and how the Manager performed that perhaps we should have a thread on Match report on Welling v Bristol Rovers by anybody who did not attend the game. hope its just a 1 match thing as i enjoy your match reports when ive watched the game and when i wasnt there
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Post by philbemmygas on Dec 7, 2014 7:38:15 GMT
Steve thanks for reconsidering your decision, as always an interesting read
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Post by blackthorngas on Dec 7, 2014 8:16:54 GMT
Steve. Thanks for the report. Normal service has been resumed!. Really value your opinions and enjoy reading your evaluation of each game. Please don't let the comments from a few posters stop you. Utg
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