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Post by tommym9 on Jan 30, 2017 14:20:24 GMT
Said to my mate at the time, put Montano on purely for his defensive game and work rate compared to Moore.
I would have thought it was a given considering DC's love of midfielders tracking back.
I still think our big weakness all over the pitch is pace
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Post by faggotygas on Jan 30, 2017 15:46:26 GMT
You're talking with hindsight and yes, with hindsight, Moore had a shocker, but I don't think the manager could have expected him to play so badly. At the time we looked like we were tiring after playing a high tempo pressing game, so fresh legs was hardly bizarre or ludicrous.
Montano is a left winger. If DC had put him on the right wing, and we'd conceded a goal, you may now be saying that was a bizarre and ludicrous decision.
DC could have and in my view should have put Montano on for Bodin. He could've put Montano on the left and asked Sinclair or James to stay on the right to keep a natural balance. My one disappointment with DC this season is his underuse of Montano - yes he is sometimes hit and miss but surely we can all see he carries more threat and quality than either Moore or James !? Moore reminds me too much of Gosling - jogs around. That's your opinion and is fine, by objection to the original post in this chain was the hyperbole of 'bizarre and ludicrous'. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 15:53:55 GMT
I would have thought it was a given considering DC's love of midfielders tracking back.
I still think our big weakness all over the pitch is pace
Agree we haven't got that much pace. I don't think its too much of an issue at this level.
I think pace is the thing that worries the opposition most at any level and something we need to have if we are to progress further imo.
Players with pace certainly seem to have good games against us put it that way!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 19:29:44 GMT
The comments on Port Vale's fans forum when he left suggest there is an issue with his confidence and suggestions he's too timid, it's a shame as there is a good player there I think but changing his approach/ mind-set at 28 will not be easy. He's had problems in the past and I hoped the move would help put these behind him. Interesting, as after his third misplaced pass DC encouraged the crowd to get behind him, perhaps that's why. We must remember that footballers are only human of course, with human frailties. I would suggest BM needs to go out on loan to a club much lower in the pyramid so he can gain confidence in his abilities again by being a far better player than the other players on the pitch. A big drop but a loan to Mangoes,WSM ,Bath city or another lower level club.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 30, 2017 19:36:51 GMT
Interesting, as after his third misplaced pass DC encouraged the crowd to get behind him, perhaps that's why. We must remember that footballers are only human of course, with human frailties. I would suggest BM needs to go out on loan to a club much lower in the pyramid so he gain gain confidence in his abilities again by being a far better player than the other players on the pitch. A big drop but a loan to Mangoes,WSM ,Bath city or another lower level club.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2017 19:09:32 GMT
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 6, 2017 10:26:37 GMT
I thought their goalie was decent and their winger, but maybe our formation gave the winger space Apart from the point blank save in the first half, I thought their keeper was useless, and looked like he didn't have a clue what he was doing. Bumping this for the weird stat that Vigouroux was sent off in added time in both Oxford-Swindon derbies this season, without giving away a penalty. Sounds like he has trouble keeping a cool head. |
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Post by curlywurly on Feb 6, 2017 10:53:29 GMT
Apart from the point blank save in the first half, I thought their keeper was useless, and looked like he didn't have a clue what he was doing. Bumping this for the weird stat that Vigouroux was sent off in added time in both Oxford-Swindon derbies this season, without giving away a penalty. Sounds like he has trouble keeping a cool head. I haven't seen the incident yet, but he's certainly a strange one. From what I've read, most Swindon fans don't seem to lay much blame in his direction for their current difficulties, but he seemed their biggest liability to me. Tale of the game seems that Swindon's midfield were overpowered by Oxford, just as we did. Given their 'football philosophy' and personnel, they look likely to be relegated. Colkett may be getting game time, but I wonder how much good it is doing him. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 6, 2017 11:23:25 GMT
Bumping this for the weird stat that Vigouroux was sent off in added time in both Oxford-Swindon derbies this season, without giving away a penalty. Sounds like he has trouble keeping a cool head. I haven't seen the incident yet, but he's certainly a strange one. From what I've read, most Swindon fans don't seem to lay much blame in his direction for their current difficulties, but he seemed their biggest liability to me. Tale of the game seems that Swindon's midfield were overpowered by Oxford, just as we did. Given their 'football philosophy' and personnel, they look likely to be relegated. Colkett may be getting game time, but I wonder how much good it is doing him. As one bloke said on their forum, Colkett is w**k. And, apparently the atmosphere at Swindon games is poisonous. I guess if he gets through it ok, then it might do him good in the long run. It's a weird red. It looks like there's no reason at all for him to be there, or make the challenge (to be fair, it looks like the defender makes the challenge, but then there's even less reason for him to be there): |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 11:32:31 GMT
Colkett isn't a bad player, just inconsistent. Which is why DC was doing the right thing by managing his game time.
Noticed at the Mem hes playing deeper for Swindon. Moving his position, team mates etc. half way through his first season and straight into a relegation battle shows why Chelsea's decision to recall was naive. Ruining him before his career's even begun.
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Post by curlywurly on Feb 6, 2017 11:43:34 GMT
I haven't seen the incident yet, but he's certainly a strange one. From what I've read, most Swindon fans don't seem to lay much blame in his direction for their current difficulties, but he seemed their biggest liability to me. Tale of the game seems that Swindon's midfield were overpowered by Oxford, just as we did. Given their 'football philosophy' and personnel, they look likely to be relegated. Colkett may be getting game time, but I wonder how much good it is doing him. As one bloke said on their forum, Colkett is w**k. And, apparently the atmosphere at Swindon games is poisonous. I guess if he gets through it ok, then it might do him good in the long run. It's a weird red. It looks like there's no reason at all for him to be there, or make the challenge (to be fair, it looks like the defender makes the challenge, but then there's even less reason for him to be there): Wow. That seemed pretty harsh to me, but as you say - why on earth was he out their. Oxford's second goal was pretty good. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 12:12:42 GMT
Colkett isn't a bad player, just inconsistent. Which is why DC was doing the right thing by managing his game time. Noticed at the Mem hes playing deeper for Swindon. Moving his position, team mates etc. half way through his first season and straight into a relegation battle shows why Chelsea's decision to recall was naive. Ruining him before his career's even begun. Ive noticed lots of loan players in january were "recalled",i might be wrong but i think its just a technicality to do with the new loan rules. Dc wanted colkett,boateng and roberts off the wage bill imo |
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Post by socrates on Feb 6, 2017 12:18:22 GMT
I haven't seen the incident yet, but he's certainly a strange one. From what I've read, most Swindon fans don't seem to lay much blame in his direction for their current difficulties, but he seemed their biggest liability to me. Tale of the game seems that Swindon's midfield were overpowered by Oxford, just as we did. Given their 'football philosophy' and personnel, they look likely to be relegated. Colkett may be getting game time, but I wonder how much good it is doing him. As one bloke said on their forum, Colkett is w**k. And, apparently the atmosphere at Swindon games is poisonous. I guess if he gets through it ok, then it might do him good in the long run. It's a weird red. It looks like there's no reason at all for him to be there, or make the challenge (to be fair, it looks like the defender makes the challenge, but then there's even less reason for him to be there): Proper David James moment that one ! |
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Post by scoobydoogas on Feb 6, 2017 12:26:32 GMT
I think I need to book myself in at the optician's cos I can't see any evidence of the keeper making a foul. If anything, it looks like the defender made the tackle with the keeper then making contact with the defender. But then why doesn't the keeper protest his innocence? All very confusing. Maybe he just fancied having a few games off and getting away from a team that's getting beat every week.
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Post by Centenary Gas on Feb 6, 2017 12:59:29 GMT
I haven't seen the incident yet, but he's certainly a strange one. From what I've read, most Swindon fans don't seem to lay much blame in his direction for their current difficulties, but he seemed their biggest liability to me. Tale of the game seems that Swindon's midfield were overpowered by Oxford, just as we did. Given their 'football philosophy' and personnel, they look likely to be relegated. Colkett may be getting game time, but I wonder how much good it is doing him. As one bloke said on their forum, Colkett is w**k. And, apparently the atmosphere at Swindon games is poisonous. I guess if he gets through it ok, then it might do him good in the long run. It's a weird red. It looks like there's no reason at all for him to be there, or make the challenge (to be fair, it looks like the defender makes the challenge, but then there's even less reason for him to be there): 'Poisonous' Some people would do well to remember this next time they question DCs position. We had that horrible feeling for years, players that didn't necessarily care or had the bottle, a manager that was deluded in his interviews, and that horrible feeling of sinking without much hope or belief in those who's job it is to get you out of trouble. DC might make some frustrating decisions or signings at times, but honesty and a squad that are decent people giving their all means supporting through the bad times never produces that poison. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 14:11:26 GMT
Lets be honest Colkett was nothing more than a luxury player, certainly not a player you would want in a relegation battle or derby game.
I think it will do him good, maybe also knock him down to earth a bit given reports on what he is earning already.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 6, 2017 19:36:36 GMT
Lets be honest Colkett was nothing more than a luxury player, certainly not a player you would want in a relegation battle or derby game. I think it will do him good, maybe also knock him down to earth a bit given reports on what he is earning already. Ha I said exactly this to a Swindon fan when they signed him. He shows glimpses of brilliant but not involved enough and not the player you want in a relegation battle. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 6, 2017 20:27:42 GMT
Colkett isn't a bad player, just inconsistent. Which is why DC was doing the right thing by managing his game time. Noticed at the Mem hes playing deeper for Swindon. Moving his position, team mates etc. half way through his first season and straight into a relegation battle shows why Chelsea's decision to recall was naive. Ruining him before his career's even begun. Did he want to go back so he could go out with his mate to Swindon on loan? Quite a cosy hug during the celebrations there. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 9:22:09 GMT
Colkett isn't a bad player, just inconsistent. Which is why DC was doing the right thing by managing his game time. Noticed at the Mem hes playing deeper for Swindon. Moving his position, team mates etc. half way through his first season and straight into a relegation battle shows why Chelsea's decision to recall was naive. Ruining him before his career's even begun. Did he want to go back so he could go out with his mate to Swindon on loan? Quite a cosy hug during the celebrations there.
To be fair he just wants to play games and he wasn't getting that here. Now with his Swindon performances we are starting to see why.
Good call from DC. Not sure how Boateng has been getting on at Northampton though?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 7, 2017 9:43:57 GMT
Good call from DC. Not sure how Boateng has been getting on at Northampton though?
From their forum re their last game (v Walsall): Boeatang 5 flatters to deceive Boetang I thought was absolutely superb first half. 2nd half, Id forgotten he was playing. Boateng played well 1st half I also thought Boateng switched off second half and defo for the second goal. He simply didn't make any attempt to get out to the bloke on their right wing Boateng…brilliant first half, the Kante of league1. 2nd half, was he playing? |
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