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Post by yatetown85 on Oct 30, 2016 10:57:17 GMT
I thought yesterday was a weird game, don't know if it was my hangover, but the team and the fans seemed a bit off! Both started well, crowd were loud and we looked good, then from about 20-40mins it just went flat, crowd went dead and some of the passing was just odd! So many simple balls missed or getting in each other's way when someone was about to press the trigger!
Even when Posh passed to us on the edge of their box, with 3 players there we should have stuck it away but managed to mess that up!
I don't think the ref helped mind and the lino by the West Enclosure, well, I think his flag weighed about 100lbs as he didn't lift it once I don't think!
Roos will obviously blame himself, but the strikers and DC need to take most of the flack! 20+ attempts on goal and the only goal came from a penalty! Why take Rory off when he was one of our better players!
Anyway, on to Tuesday!
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Post by Okebournegas on Oct 30, 2016 10:59:39 GMT
I've been trying to not comment on the Roos error ...... Let's be honest it was a howler but mildenhall has made his fair share of them too. I don't remember him getting half as much stick . I always remember the gaff mildy made in the fa cup game against York where the ball was crossed in from their winger and mildy came out and flapped at a simple ball into the box and presented a simple tap in for York to equalise. After the game 3-3 draw I think it wasn't really mentioned. Mildenhall is and has been a good servant to the club but peter schmiechel he ain't ! I'm not going to be petty and list the errors mildy has made but we all know he has his made them in his league 2 , conference and league 1 appearances. Unfortunately until mildy moves on no goalkeeper we get in on loan or sign on a permanent will ever be accepted and will always be compared to him.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 30, 2016 11:34:14 GMT
I've been trying to not comment on the Roos error ...... Let's be honest it was a howler but mildenhall has made his fair share of them too. I don't remember him getting half as much stick . I always remember the gaff mildy made in the fa cup game against York where the ball was crossed in from their winger and mildy came out and flapped at a simple ball into the box and presented a simple tap in for York to equalise. After the game 3-3 draw I think it wasn't really mentioned. Mildenhall is and has been a good servant to the club but peter schmiechel he ain't ! I'm not going to be petty and list the errors mildy has made but we all know he has his made them in his league 2 , conference and league 1 appearances. Unfortunately until mildy moves on no goalkeeper we get in on loan or sign on a permanent will ever be accepted and will always be compared to him. To be fair to Mildy he was dropped twice for far less, last season then again after the Chelsea game this season, when for a season and a half he'd hardly made any major howlers. Perhaps it's just my suspicious mind but it seems a bit of a coincidence Mildy has suddenly developed a mystery knee injury, as if that's the case then why was he on the bench yesterday, or wasn't Puddy's loan spell up? As far as Puddy, if he's not good enough to play on Tuesday then why did DC retain his services in the summer? I can't see he could argue with being released after just 45 mins of football last season, even if we offered all the other players contracts. |
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Post by Strange Gas on Oct 30, 2016 11:34:17 GMT
Gosh, DC didn't hold back in his interview. Interesting tactic to give Roos a roasting and at the same time say he doesn't have a good alternative. Hope Roos bounces back - it's a confidence thing after all so won't help to know the boss is on his back. Time to shape up or ship out
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 30, 2016 11:40:25 GMT
Gosh, DC didn't hold back in his interview. Interesting tactic to give Roos a roasting and at the same time say he doesn't have a good alternative. Hope Roos bounces back - it's a confidence thing after all so won't help to know the boss is on his back. Time to shape up or ship out If anything, you could say he made the mistake coz he was over confident. |
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Post by markczgas on Oct 30, 2016 12:08:35 GMT
Thought Posh were shocking. They didn't even deserve a point. Had absolutely nothing to offer all game, and at least three players who were ridiculously overweight. Played for a point and got lucky. Proper mugged, but hopefully learn from it. I think they came for a win but after about half an hour we got on top and they ran out of ideas. They got lucky and defended for their lives at time. I thought it was a very encouraging performance from us and up to the equaliser all the team were playing at a minimum good level. Even after the equaliser we had them penned in around their box for long periods. It just didn't want to go in - on another day we would've walked away 3 or 4 nil winners and Posh wouldn't have had anything to complain about. We'll get it right v Fleetwood. |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Oct 30, 2016 13:38:12 GMT
My 8yr old plays in goal and even he has told me he finds it difficult when different players are picked to play I'm front of him week in week out. When he has 2 particular defenders he really likes and trusts in front of him he plays much better. It can't be easy for the defensive unit for there to keep being changes in formation and personnel week in week out. Don't make excuses for him. He needs to buck his 8 year old ideas up and play his own game. If he can't be relied on week in week out get him out on loan. To Eastleigh? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 16:18:54 GMT
I've been trying to not comment on the Roos error ...... Let's be honest it was a howler but mildenhall has made his fair share of them too. I don't remember him getting half as much stick . I always remember the gaff mildy made in the fa cup game against York where the ball was crossed in from their winger and mildy came out and flapped at a simple ball into the box and presented a simple tap in for York to equalise. After the game 3-3 draw I think it wasn't really mentioned. Mildenhall is and has been a good servant to the club but peter schmiechel he ain't ! I'm not going to be petty and list the errors mildy has made but we all know he has his made them in his league 2 , conference and league 1 appearances. Unfortunately until mildy moves on no goalkeeper we get in on loan or sign on a permanent will ever be accepted and will always be compared to him. To be fair to Mildy he was dropped twice for far less, last season then again after the Chelsea game this season, when for a season and a half he'd hardly made any major howlers. Perhaps it's just my suspicious mind but it seems a bit of a coincidence Mildy has suddenly developed a mystery knee injury, as if that's the case then why was he on the bench yesterday, or wasn't Puddy's loan spell up? As far as Puddy, if he's not good enough to play on Tuesday then why did DC retain his services in the summer? I can't see he could argue with being released after just 45 mins of football last season, even if we offered all the other players contracts. maybe the manager is a man of his word? "right lads every squad player will be offered a new deal if we get promoted" so then at the end of the season he turns around and releases players?? dc has worked very hard to create what we now have so why would he destroy that by going back on his promise? |
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Post by mjhgas on Oct 30, 2016 20:06:36 GMT
Two issues for me yesterday:
1. The Peterborough manager told the ref exactly what he thought of a decision in the first ten minutes. If a player had done this, it would have been a yellow or a red.
2. After their equaliser, we got back on top for ten minutes when their forward decided to sit on the floor apparently injured. His "injury" took 5 minutes out of the game and the sting out of ours. The ref should have asked him to leave the pitch and carry on with the game.
Gamesmanship at its best!
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Post by aghast on Oct 30, 2016 21:12:45 GMT
Agonising to see The Beard's tiny little legs just failing to block the goal.
He should have hurled his whiskers at it. That would have filled the whole goalmouth.
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Post by oldgas on Oct 31, 2016 10:17:03 GMT
I have waited a couple of days before posting my view on Saturday because it's easy to rush into print when still emotionally involved in the game. It must be very difficult for coaches and managers to remain objective when interviewed immediately after a match.
First of all, I had to leave 5 mins from the end, we were going for a family meal and I was under strict instructions from she who must be obeyed that we weren't to be late.. We were walking up Wellington Hill West when we heard quite a loud cheers and at first we thought we had scored our customary late late winner. My lad was concerned that the shout didn't last long enough, and when we turned on the car radio it turned out Borough had won. Looking at the goals on here it seems were were suckered on the counter. It happens, Perhaps we should have accepted a draw.
It quickly became apparent that Borough had come for a point, and they expertly employed their game plan. They were aided and abetted by a weak, poor ref, especially in the second half where they feigned injury when we were really pressing them. The ref fell for it hook, line and sinker, and they achieved their aim.
Sometimes the ball just wont go in the net. Saturday was like that, defenders got in the way, the keeper saved and sometimes we seemed to want one too many touches, it just goes like that sometimes. Roos howler was so basic, just keep hold of the ball, get it under control ffs! I really think he was planning his next move and forgot the basics. Lots of ball catching and safe retention training for him before Tuesday.
The good thing is we have the perfect opportunity to bounce back against one of the top teams on Tues. I would like to see Boetang return, play a winger from th start and replace Tom with Hartley.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 31, 2016 10:26:26 GMT
I think we'd all like to see a winger start at the Mem but DC's too stubborn to do that, you also forgot to mention DC stuck with the diamond formation when it clearly wasn't effective in the 2nd half. We've 3 decent wingers in the squad but DC would sooner start with OC in midfield!
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Post by 84gas on Oct 31, 2016 10:48:43 GMT
I think we'd all like to see a winger start at the Mem but DC's too stubborn to do that, you also forgot to mention DC stuck with the diamond formation when it clearly wasn't effective in the 2nd half. We've 3 decent wingers in the squad but DC would sooner start with OC in midfield! Yea we havent started with wingers for a good while now which is also loosing our unpredictability |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Oct 31, 2016 11:07:27 GMT
I think we'd all like to see a winger start at the Mem but DC's too stubborn to do that, you also forgot to mention DC stuck with the diamond formation when it clearly wasn't effective in the 2nd half. We've 3 decent wingers in the squad but DC would sooner start with OC in midfield! A) Back-to-back promotions and two defeats in the last 10 league games - let's hope DC carries on being 'stubborn' (which I think is absolute nonsense) if it means the success continues. B) I think the system was very effective in the 2nd half, and had very little to do with us losing the game. We scored in the 2nd half, missed 3/4 very good chances and only conceded due to a Roos blunder (we don't get caught on the break and concede the second if we aren't going all out for a winner). C) I thought OC was excellent v P'Boro. |
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Oct 31, 2016 12:56:54 GMT
I think we'd all like to see a winger start at the Mem but DC's too stubborn to do that, you also forgot to mention DC stuck with the diamond formation when it clearly wasn't effective in the 2nd half. We've 3 decent wingers in the squad but DC would sooner start with OC in midfield! A) Back-to-back promotions and two defeats in the last 10 league games - let's hope DC carries on being 'stubborn' (which I think is absolute nonsense) if it means the success continues. B) I think the system was very effective in the 2nd half, and had very little to do with us losing the game. We scored in the 2nd half, missed 3/4 very good chances and only conceded due to a Roos blunder (we don't get caught on the break and concede the second if we aren't going all out for a winner). C) I thought OC was excellent v P'Boro. Completely agree. The diamond was working well at the start of the second half as the midfield was solid and the fullbacks were getting forward well. We weren't as effective after the substitutions, in part because of Harrison replacing Gaffney, but also due to Colkett going deeper after Easter went at the point of the diamond. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 31, 2016 20:03:13 GMT
I think we'd all like to see a winger start at the Mem but DC's too stubborn to do that, you also forgot to mention DC stuck with the diamond formation when it clearly wasn't effective in the 2nd half. We've 3 decent wingers in the squad but DC would sooner start with OC in midfield! A) Back-to-back promotions and two defeats in the last 10 league games - let's hope DC carries on being 'stubborn' (which I think is absolute nonsense) if it means the success continues. B) I think the system was very effective in the 2nd half, and had very little to do with us losing the game. We scored in the 2nd half, missed 3/4 very good chances and only conceded due to a Roos blunder (we don't get caught on the break and concede the second if we aren't going all out for a winner). C) I thought OC was excellent v P'Boro. Personally feel he his being stubborn this season as I can't for the life of me understand why Montano or Moore don't start or at least get a regular 30 mins run out at the Mem, perhaps DC is worried we'll peak too early and will go all guns blazing later in the season, assuming we can afford to go up whilst we're still stuck at the Mem. We lost our way after the subs but if we'd bought Monty &/or Moore on we could have well pressed on, as it was we were holding on with just a pen against a poor Posh team who, until Roos dropped the cross, had just the had one shot on target and showed no real interest in attacking. OC was effective rather than excellent but could a winger have offered something more, clearly we'll never know. |
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Post by Okebournegas on Oct 31, 2016 21:12:50 GMT
A) Back-to-back promotions and two defeats in the last 10 league games - let's hope DC carries on being 'stubborn' (which I think is absolute nonsense) if it means the success continues. B) I think the system was very effective in the 2nd half, and had very little to do with us losing the game. We scored in the 2nd half, missed 3/4 very good chances and only conceded due to a Roos blunder (we don't get caught on the break and concede the second if we aren't going all out for a winner). C) I thought OC was excellent v P'Boro. Personally feel he his being stubborn this season as I can't for the life of me understand why Montano or Moore don't start or at least get a regular 30 mins run out at the Mem, perhaps DC is worried we'll peak too early and will go all guns blazing later in the season, assuming we can afford to go up whilst we're still stuck at the Mem. We lost our way after the subs but if we'd bought Monty &/or Moore on we could have well pressed on, as it was we were holding on with just a pen against a poor Posh team who, until Roos dropped the cross, had just the had one shot on target and showed no real interest in attacking. OC was effective rather than excellent but could a winger have offered something more, clearly we'll never know. I do enjoy reading your take on things topper I must say ! |
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Oct 31, 2016 21:16:24 GMT
A) Back-to-back promotions and two defeats in the last 10 league games - let's hope DC carries on being 'stubborn' (which I think is absolute nonsense) if it means the success continues. B) I think the system was very effective in the 2nd half, and had very little to do with us losing the game. We scored in the 2nd half, missed 3/4 very good chances and only conceded due to a Roos blunder (we don't get caught on the break and concede the second if we aren't going all out for a winner). C) I thought OC was excellent v P'Boro. Personally feel he his being stubborn this season as I can't for the life of me understand why Montano or Moore don't start or at least get a regular 30 mins run out at the Mem, perhaps DC is worried we'll peak too early and will go all guns blazing later in the season, assuming we can afford to go up whilst we're still stuck at the Mem. We lost our way after the subs but if we'd bought Monty &/or Moore on we could have well pressed on, as it was we were holding on with just a pen against a poor Posh team who, until Roos dropped the cross, had just the had one shot on target and showed no real interest in attacking. OC was effective rather than excellent but could a winger have offered something more, clearly we'll never know. I think the issue with DC and wingers is that it is both or none. Once he'd put on Harrison and Easter he wasn't going to put one of Moore/Montano on or we'd be too imbalanced. If we don't start with wingers it uses up two subs to get wingers on the pitch. Obviously we could have put Sinclair or Colkett wide, but we haven't really done that this season. |
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Post by hardingegas on Oct 31, 2016 22:46:14 GMT
I was very surprised the formation wasn't changed with the subs coming on - which has happened in almost all previous games especially at home.
It was just like for like this time. At least one winger could have been brought in on the left (Monty or Moore) which wouldn't have been unbalanced as Leadbitter was doing a winger's job on the right anyway.
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