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Post by gaseous on Aug 24, 2016 11:06:04 GMT
I'd have rested our full first team. Anyone who thinks our best 11 can get within a few goals of Chelsea let alone beat them are in cloud cuckoo land. Best result tonight will be a large crowd and no injuries. UTG Just popped my head out of the clock to find out the score last night! What was it?.😋 |
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Post by philbemmygas on Aug 24, 2016 11:28:25 GMT
Just to be a pedant  there are no rules in football, they are laws. it has to be an act of violent conduct to get a red card. The referee had decided that a penalty and yellow card was adequate punishment for the offence. Jermaine Easter was probably booked for his reaction to the official more than the offence he commited, another law change with regards to dissent. All in all a great night out in the company of a great crowd, the players and staff of the club let no one down and I look forwards to Saturdays trip to swindle.  Just to be pedantic, there are 7 offences that are punished with a red card:
SENDING-OFF OFFENCES
- A player, substitute or substituted player who commits any of the following offences is sent off: denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (except a goalkeeper within their penalty area)
- denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the opponents’ goal by an offence punishable by a free kick (unless as outlined below)
- serious foul play
- spitting at an opponent or any other person
- violent conduct
- using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
- receiving a second caution in the same match
- A player, substitute or substituted player who has been sent off must leave the vicinity of the field of play and the technical area.
DENYING A GOAL OR AN OBVIOUS GOAL-SCORING OPPORTUNITY
Where a player denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a deliberate handball offence the player is sent off wherever the offence occurs.
Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned unless: - The offence is holding, pulling or pushing or
- The offending player does not attempt to play the ball or there is no possibility for the player making the challenge to play the ball or
- The offence is one which is punishable by a red card wherever it occurs on the field of play (e.g. serious foul play, violent conduct etc.)
In all the above circumstances the player is sent off.
The following must be considered:
- distance between the offence and the goal
- general direction of the play
- likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball
- location and number of defenders
Read more at www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct.aspx#jyYCLKbF68Iu01F7.99
As I understand it, the penalty last night was for a push, so Pedro should have been sent off.
I was basing my comment on information I received from a friend who is an ex football league assist referee, who also works at the Glos F.A.
I am unable to open your link here in work so can't see the changes that took place this season. Its all conjecture now anyway, UTG
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 24, 2016 11:42:22 GMT
Just to be pedantic, there are 7 offences that are punished with a red card:
SENDING-OFF OFFENCES
- A player, substitute or substituted player who commits any of the following offences is sent off: denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (except a goalkeeper within their penalty area)
- denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the opponents’ goal by an offence punishable by a free kick (unless as outlined below)
- serious foul play
- spitting at an opponent or any other person
- violent conduct
- using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
- receiving a second caution in the same match
- A player, substitute or substituted player who has been sent off must leave the vicinity of the field of play and the technical area.
DENYING A GOAL OR AN OBVIOUS GOAL-SCORING OPPORTUNITY
Where a player denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a deliberate handball offence the player is sent off wherever the offence occurs.
Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned unless: - The offence is holding, pulling or pushing or
- The offending player does not attempt to play the ball or there is no possibility for the player making the challenge to play the ball or
- The offence is one which is punishable by a red card wherever it occurs on the field of play (e.g. serious foul play, violent conduct etc.)
In all the above circumstances the player is sent off.
The following must be considered:
- distance between the offence and the goal
- general direction of the play
- likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball
- location and number of defenders
Read more at www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct.aspx#jyYCLKbF68Iu01F7.99
As I understand it, the penalty last night was for a push, so Pedro should have been sent off.
I was basing my comment on information I received from a friend who is an ex football league assist referee, who also works at the Glos F.A.
I am unable to open your link here in work so can't see the changes that took place this season. Its all conjecture now anyway, UTG
Its a straight copy & paste from the FA Laws of the Game website.
The change this season regarding DOGSO is this bit:
"Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned unless:
- The offence is holding, pulling or pushing or
- The offending player does not attempt to play the ball or there is no possibility for the player making the challenge to play the ball or
- The offence is one which is punishable by a red card wherever it occurs on the field of play (e.g. serious foul play, violent conduct etc.)
In all the above circumstances the player is sent off."
Basically, if its a 'genuine attempt' to play the ball rather than the man, then its a booking. Everything else is still a red card.
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Post by philbemmygas on Aug 24, 2016 11:51:43 GMT
Its a straight copy & paste from the FA Laws of the Game website.
The change this season regarding DOGSO is this bit:
"Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offending player is cautioned unless:
- The offence is holding, pulling or pushing or
- The offending player does not attempt to play the ball or there is no possibility for the player making the challenge to play the ball or
- The offence is one which is punishable by a red card wherever it occurs on the field of play (e.g. serious foul play, violent conduct etc.)
In all the above circumstances the player is sent off."
Basically, if its a 'genuine attempt' to play the ball rather than the man, then its a booking. Everything else is still a red card.
Fair shout, obviously Mr Strouds interpretation of the challenge was different to many others. Cheers |
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Post by lulworthgas on Aug 24, 2016 15:12:06 GMT
I'd have rested our full first team. Anyone who thinks our best 11 can get within a few goals of Chelsea let alone beat them are in cloud cuckoo land. Best result tonight will be a large crowd and no injuries. UTG Just popped my head out of the clock to find out the score last night! What was it?.😋 I'll hold my hands up on the couple of goals. However, we still lost and still have a more important game against local rivals on the weekend. Have we sold out yet? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 15:31:54 GMT
Just popped my head out of the clock to find out the score last night! What was it?.😋 I'll hold my hands up on the couple of goals. However, we still lost and still have a more important game against local rivals on the weekend. Have we sold out yet? You'd be amazed what sort of effect a game like that has on a squad, especially an inexperienced one like ours. To have held their own against a strong Chelsea side shows they have nothing to fear in the league. Swindon should sell out or get close, extra day's rest for the squad too compared to the last few games so I'm expecting a good performance. |
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Post by markczgas on Aug 24, 2016 15:32:30 GMT
we talk about Chelsea's world class players but from those highlights , no.14 Loftus -Cheek looks one hell of a player !! Can Wael get him here on loan  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 16:39:26 GMT
Chelsea reserves apparently!
Christ, the lad who scored twice is a 33m signing.
Loftus Cheek has represented his country from u16 through to the 21s.
The rest are established first teamers.
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Post by paulpirate on Aug 24, 2016 16:52:05 GMT
Makes I laugh on the YouTube thread when Hartley scores and a few of their fans start singing your still losing,what a cracking song that is
Their fans are so sh**e hope ours won't be like that when we're in the prem;)
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Aug 24, 2016 17:02:41 GMT
Most the Chelsea fans I saw seemed to have some weird sense of entitlement, a couple of them starting kicking off outside the court field pub in Earls Court when the police politely asked them to find another place to drink. But to be honest why would you want to drink in a pub full of very vocal set of the opposing teams supporters?!
All in all it was a cracking day out. Glad I made the effort to get up to London earlier and drink my own body weight in Cider!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 17:10:24 GMT
we talk about Chelsea's world class players but from those highlights , no.14 Loftus -Cheek looks one hell of a player !! Can Wael get him here on loan Interesting you think that cos I thought he was very poor, converted forward apparently but I'm not sure he's good there. Maybe that's harsh given he was being compared to Batshuayi et al. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Aug 24, 2016 18:34:13 GMT
Most the Chelsea fans I saw seemed to have some weird sense of entitlement, a couple of them starting kicking off outside the court field pub in Earls Court when the police politely asked them to find another place to drink. But to be honest why would you want to drink in a pub full of very vocal set of the opposing teams supporters?! All in all it was a cracking day out. Glad I made the effort to get up to London earlier and drink my own body weight in Cider! You're made of liquid? |
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Post by Newton Abbot Gas on Aug 24, 2016 18:56:40 GMT
The ball that Matty played to The Beard to put him through for the pen was very similar to Luton away last season....UTG
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Post by Briz Red on Aug 24, 2016 19:31:18 GMT
Just wanted to say fair play to you, at 2-0 down away at Chelsea a lot of clubs would have gone into 'damage limitation' mode, but it looks like you had a real go and not many teams will score 2 at The Bridge.
I had several mates who travelled up last night and they are all buzzing about the following and the game.
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Post by aghast on Aug 24, 2016 20:38:44 GMT
Just goes to show what a farcical position we have got into with wages and transfer fees in the Prem and Champions League elite. As DC said, there are good players in the lower leagues. They might not be as good as the top boys, but the good ones like Matty T are definitely better value for money. He must be paid about 2% of the salary of a Man City striker and be worth about about the same if snapped up now by a Championship club.
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Post by hpgas on Aug 24, 2016 21:36:05 GMT
Most the Chelsea fans I saw seemed to have some weird sense of entitlement, a couple of them starting kicking off outside the court field pub in Earls Court when the police politely asked them to find another place to drink. But to be honest why would you want to drink in a pub full of very vocal set of the opposing teams supporters?! All in all it was a cracking day out. Glad I made the effort to get up to London earlier and drink my own body weight in Cider! Sense of entitlement sums it up. I was in the home end - what a dismal bunch. No sense of humour, no banter, just expecting to win and completely star struck (not by Matty to be clear). My mate pointed out it was like going to the cinema for them - felt that was a good point. I'd add it was like a bunch of black cab drivers going to the cinema. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 22:43:46 GMT
Just popped my head out of the clock to find out the score last night! What was it?.😋 I'll hold my hands up on the couple of goals. However, we still lost and still have a more important game against local rivals on the weekend. Have we sold out yet? i still believe there is a romantic side to the game and what can be better for players and fans than playing against a top class team in wonderful stadium? it dosnt happen too often and what a great night it was |
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there are no rules in football, they are laws. it has to be an act of violent conduct to get a red card. The referee had decided that a penalty and yellow card was adequate punishment for the offence.
