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Post by baggins on Nov 22, 2015 13:19:41 GMT
OK, but it adds little to this thread which is about a rumoured consortium, what is a worry is if this is just a rumour and there's no Plan B ie a reduced capacity UWE then what is the club's future if we lose the Appeal? The club has no future under the current board apart from a slow painful death, it's consortium or bust. Nah, survived so far without a Consortium. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 22, 2015 13:34:09 GMT
I've always been under the impression that this stuff was only leaked because NH was going ahead with 'Plan B' of a part owned, scaled down UWE. I do wonder whether this was all just BS all along just to halt the Plan B. Wasn't that just a Vital instigated rumour? Assuming Henbury is right that there's been no contacted with S Glos planning debt then surely Plan B was never a serious proposal, but who was going to fund that anyway? The odd thing about all these rumours is why CS was recruited to the BoD, was it to assist with one of the plans, or it just desperation by NH as we face armageddon if the Appeal goes Sainsbury's way. Assuming NH attends this week's meeting it will be interesting to see what is answer is if anyone asks how we are going to clear the debts if we lose the Appeal, and also fund the UWE if, has he's previously suggested, the club will die if it remains at the Mem. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 22, 2015 13:36:47 GMT
The club has no future under the current board apart from a slow painful death, it's consortium or bust. Nah, survived so far without a Consortium. Problem is the debt under the present BoD is ever increasing, it seems if the Appeal goes Sainsbury's way we've reached a watershed moment and so something will have to change to start bringing the debt down. I can't see how we can just continue to plod on. |
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Post by baggins on Nov 22, 2015 13:47:32 GMT
Nah, survived so far without a Consortium. Problem is the debt under the present BoD is ever increasing, it seems if the Appeal goes Sainsbury's way we've reached a watershed moment and so something will have to change to start bringing the debt down. I can't see how we can just continue to plod on. We'll find a way, always do. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 22, 2015 14:04:30 GMT
Problem is the debt under the present BoD is ever increasing, it seems if the Appeal goes Sainsbury's way we've reached a watershed moment and so something will have to change to start bringing the debt down. I can't see how we can just continue to plod on. We'll find a way, always do. History suggests it isn't always a pleasant way though, as we've history of selling our ground to clear our debts. If we don't get something from Sainsbury's and the consortium doesn't exists/lose interest, I'd love to know what the plans for survival will be. |
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Post by womble on Nov 22, 2015 14:11:43 GMT
I've always been under the impression that this stuff was only leaked because NH was going ahead with 'Plan B' of a part owned, scaled down UWE. I do wonder whether this was all just BS all along just to halt the Plan B.
The odd thing about all these rumours is why CS was recruited to the BoD, was it to assist with one of the plans, or it just desperation by NH as we face armageddon if the Appeal goes Sainsbury's way. Assuming NH attends this week's meeting it will be interesting to see what is answer is if anyone asks how we are going to clear the debts if we lose the Appeal, and also fund the UWE if, has he's previously suggested, the club will die if it remains at the Mem. Any formal planning application would have to be registered on the South Glos. website. Informal discussions before a potential application would be another matter entirely. |
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Post by baggins on Nov 22, 2015 14:16:35 GMT
We'll find a way, always do. History suggests it isn't always a pleasant way though, as we've history of selling our ground to clear our debts. If we don't get something from Sainsbury's and the consortium doesn't exists/lose interest, I'd love to know what the plans for survival will be. It's Rovers, anything a pleasant way? But, we're still here, still fighting, still going for it, still Gas. |
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Post by justin blue on Nov 22, 2015 14:17:05 GMT
We'll find a way, always do. History suggests it isn't always a pleasant way though, as we've history of selling our ground to clear our debts. If we don't get something from Sainsbury's and the consortium doesn't exists/lose interest, I'd love to know what the plans for survival will be. NH has to step asside if we can't build UWE because he has clearly stated that he does not see a future for us at the Mem, |
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Post by You can call me Al. on Nov 22, 2015 14:24:58 GMT
History suggests it isn't always a pleasant way though, as we've history of selling our ground to clear our debts. If we don't get something from Sainsbury's and the consortium doesn't exists/lose interest, I'd love to know what the plans for survival will be. It's Rovers, anything a pleasant way? But, we're still here, still fighting, still going for it, still Gas. That's true and i respect your point but in another way If you keep doing what you've always done you'll keep getting what you've always got and i think its fair to say some Rovers supporters would like a little bit more that's all |
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Post by baggins on Nov 22, 2015 15:02:51 GMT
It's Rovers, anything a pleasant way? But, we're still here, still fighting, still going for it, still Gas. That's true and i respect your point but in another way If you keep doing what you've always done you'll keep getting what you've always got and i think its fair to say some Rovers supporters would like a little bit more that's all Unfortunately, I have no influence on what could be. In the meantime, just still enjoying the Gas. |
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Post by chippenhamgas on Nov 22, 2015 15:59:45 GMT
It's Rovers, anything a pleasant way? But, we're still here, still fighting, still going for it, still Gas. That's true and i respect your point but in another way If you keep doing what you've always done you'll keep getting what you've always got and i think its fair to say some Rovers supporters would like a little bit more that's all unfortunately that opinion is the minority one, most rovers fans are quite happy with being the downtrodden second class citizens in this city. As a collective fanbase we demand nothing more than to exist, it's why we're in the position we are. |
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Post by justin blue on Nov 22, 2015 16:34:51 GMT
That's true and i respect your point but in another way If you keep doing what you've always done you'll keep getting what you've always got and i think its fair to say some Rovers supporters would like a little bit more that's all unfortunately that opinion is the minority one, most rovers fans are quite happy with being the downtrodden second class citizens in this city. As a collective fanbase we demand nothing more than to exist, it's why we're in the position we are. Nonsense no Rovers fans are happy with our situation and most if not all Rovers fans would like their club to be successful. We put up with what we have because we are loyal supporters. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 16:38:34 GMT
That's true and i respect your point but in another way If you keep doing what you've always done you'll keep getting what you've always got and i think its fair to say some Rovers supporters would like a little bit more that's all unfortunately that opinion is the minority one, most rovers fans are quite happy with being the downtrodden second class citizens in this city. As a collective fanbase we demand nothing more than to exist, it's why we're in the position we are. I don't like the taste or smell of tripe. |
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Post by aghast on Nov 22, 2015 17:56:48 GMT
Severncider posted this on the other forum a few hours ago:
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"What if any new owner, I'll not mention the word Consortium, is a highly professional outfit that is used to dealing in large sports complexes/football clubs and have the brains and foresight to get things done in a professional way, is that not worth considering?"
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Does this tell me the investor(s) are a serious company along the lines suggested by Henbury, and not just a bunch of mavericks?
Who knows?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 22, 2015 18:21:41 GMT
Severncider posted this on the other forum a few hours ago: -------------------- "What if any new owner, I'll not mention the word Consortium, is a highly professional outfit that is used to dealing in large sports complexes/football clubs and have the brains and foresight to get things done in a professional way, is that not worth considering?" -------------------- Does this tell me the investor(s) are a serious company along the lines suggested by Henbury, and not just a bunch of mavericks? Who knows? Icon? But they seem to deal in project management not funding, there would have to be a third party funding the scheme? As the responses on that thread suggest what company is going to gamble investing £40m(?) building the UWE for Rovers, when we're struggling at present just to repay the interest on a loan of less than £3m? It seems we've gone from a "consortium" to an individual we might not like and now to a "professional outfit" all in the space of this thread, with no real evidence anybody has ever approached NH. |
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Post by You can call me Al. on Nov 22, 2015 18:40:38 GMT
The word 'consortium' suggests it is made up of a number of persons or groups so any of the above are possible
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Post by aghast on Nov 22, 2015 18:45:56 GMT
Severncider posted this on the other forum a few hours ago: -------------------- "What if any new owner, I'll not mention the word Consortium, is a highly professional outfit that is used to dealing in large sports complexes/football clubs and have the brains and foresight to get things done in a professional way, is that not worth considering?" -------------------- Does this tell me the investor(s) are a serious company along the lines suggested by Henbury, and not just a bunch of mavericks? Who knows? Icon? But they seem to deal in project management not funding, there would have to be a third party funding the scheme? As the responses on that thread suggest what company is going to gamble investing £40m(?) building the UWE for Rovers, when we're struggling at present just to repay the interest on a loan of less than £3m? It seems we've gone from a "consortium" to an individual we might not like and now to a "professional outfit" all in the space of this thread, with no real evidence anybody has ever approached NH. I thought they sent him an e-mail? Wonder if he's opened it yet? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 22, 2015 18:53:29 GMT
The word 'consortium' suggests it is made up of a number of persons or groups so any of the above are possible I don't think you'd call somebody like Milan Mandaric a consortium nor do Icon fall under that banner. Whilst Icon maybe on the scene and think the UWE is a good opportunity, somebody still has to fund the build. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 19:04:54 GMT
"A New Beginning ?" has no end. This thread will go down in history and indeed may be taught in schools one day to demonstrate wider connotations of gullibility! Class dismissed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 19:38:00 GMT
That's true and i respect your point but in another way If you keep doing what you've always done you'll keep getting what you've always got and i think its fair to say some Rovers supporters would like a little bit more that's all unfortunately that opinion is the minority one, most rovers fans are quite happy with being the downtrodden second class citizens in this city. As a collective fanbase we demand nothing more than to exist, it's why we're in the position we are. That is utter codswollop. Quite a few ignorant people come on these forums and, so called, speak for the masses. And to say that is the reason we are in this position is even more bonkers! The reason we are in this shambolic state as a football club is down to the board of Bristol Rovers not the 6,000 faithful. I assume you count yourself in that number as, from previous conversations with people who come out with your kind of statement, they haven't been to the Rovers for a while. And in some cases years. |
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