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Post by gas2 on May 5, 2025 5:26:45 GMT
Another cheap option then
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Post by fanboy on May 5, 2025 7:24:07 GMT
Let's not forget that Wael and DC's relationship was pretty rocky towards the end.
And can totally see the Al-Saeeds desperately trying to do something to get the fans back on board and boost ST sales.
Can't see DC leaping at the chance of returning though. Darrell and Wael still get on very well, Darrell has said that if it was down to Wael he thinks UWE would have happened. There’s been a few Instagram posts of them out for lunch together. It does make me laugh when people think someone will turn down a job cause they’re mates with someone. DC needs to work and if the job is right for him then he’d come back here in a heartbeat. Whether the job is right for him remains to be seen. Like you say, I think a lot of people underestimate the fact that DC is unemployed.. how many other clubs have our pull to him (location, emotion, potential salary, etc etc). It’s far from an opportunity I think he rejects off hand. He’d at least have to consider it. If he does what job higher up the leagues do we really think he has a chance of landing.. there can’t be many… Exeter if Caldwell goes? 🤷♂️ |
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Post by fanboy on May 5, 2025 7:26:13 GMT
Another cheap option then For me DC is the number one choice, but if it isn’t him, Duff seems a great fit. Huddersfield fans seem to have realised he was performing well with the injury hit squad.. it’s got a lot worse since he left. Did really well at Barnsley in L1. Even Swansea fans think he was harshly treated in the champ. Getting Cheltenham out of L2 is not an accomplishment to underestimate. Just look at what happened when he left. I’d actually be surprised to see Duff drop to L2, all this to say, I don’t think he’s a cheap option by any means. |
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Post by G81 on May 5, 2025 7:31:27 GMT
Darrell and Wael still get on very well, Darrell has said that if it was down to Wael he thinks UWE would have happened. There’s been a few Instagram posts of them out for lunch together. It does make me laugh when people think someone will turn down a job cause they’re mates with someone. DC needs to work and if the job is right for him then he’d come back here in a heartbeat. Whether the job is right for him remains to be seen. Like you say, I think a lot of people underestimate the fact that DC is unemployed.. how many other clubs have our pull to him (location, emotion, potential salary, etc etc). It’s far from an opportunity I think he rejects off hand. He’d at least have to consider it. If he does what job higher up the leagues do we really think he has a chance of landing.. there can’t be many… Exeter if Caldwell goes? 🤷♂️ He's also being paid by Barnsley for at least the next 8 months so doesn't "need" to work, he can pick and bide his next opportunity. However if he takes another job then his Barnsley payments will stop so we will need to be competitive on salary too. Not to mention that he's walking into a snake pit of a poisoned chalice with a legacy on the line. It's not as straightforward as you make out. |
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Post by fanboy on May 5, 2025 7:44:20 GMT
Like you say, I think a lot of people underestimate the fact that DC is unemployed.. how many other clubs have our pull to him (location, emotion, potential salary, etc etc). It’s far from an opportunity I think he rejects off hand. He’d at least have to consider it. If he does what job higher up the leagues do we really think he has a chance of landing.. there can’t be many… Exeter if Caldwell goes? 🤷♂️ He's also being paid by Barnsley for at least the next 8 months so doesn't "need" to work, he can pick and bide his next opportunity. However if he takes another job then his Barnsley payments will stop so we will need to be competitive on salary too. Not to mention that he's walking into a snake pit of a poisoned chalice with a legacy on the line. It's not as straightforward as you make out. I didn’t suggest it’s straight forward, far from it. My point was… he isn’t going to reject us off hand as some suggest. It is a more complex decision, and I’d be surprised if he didn’t at least think about it! |
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Post by oasisgas on May 5, 2025 8:12:39 GMT
Got a feeling it will be Duff because he is known to be happy to work within a set-up where he concentrates on the coaching side and tactics while the recruitment is done by someone else (where have we heard this before 🤣) which would probably be Martin where as Evans and Evatt take a more hands on role.
Thats why I think if they can’t do a deal with Duff then Williams will be higher on the list for them than say Steve Evans if my thinking above is correct.
Only thing with Duff is the football might not be as exciting but to be honest I would rather see us win then play some of the football we tried under IC and get sweet FA!!
Also bar Swansea, Duff win percentage is very impressive.
Still would love Evatt but do get the feeling the posts about him turning us down are true and I would not be surprised if it was down to having control over signings.
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Post by Qatar Gas on May 5, 2025 8:43:50 GMT
I am also warming to Duff a little now.
Obviously he did very well at Cheltenham, getting them promoted then they had their highest ever position in league one.
After getting Barnsley to the play off final, nobody has gotten them that close to promotion since.
Sacked from Swansea when they were 18th. They were not doing much better when they sacked Luke Williams this season.
Huddersfield sacked him earlier this season when they fell out of the play offs. They still never made the play offs.
Question will be is does he want to drop down to league two and of course how much control would he have?
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Post by Topper Gas on May 5, 2025 8:46:09 GMT
He's also being paid by Barnsley for at least the next 8 months so doesn't "need" to work, he can pick and bide his next opportunity. However if he takes another job then his Barnsley payments will stop so we will need to be competitive on salary too. Not to mention that he's walking into a snake pit of a poisoned chalice with a legacy on the line. It's not as straightforward as you make out. I didn’t suggest it’s straight forward, far from it. My point was… he isn’t going to reject us off hand as some suggest. It is a more complex decision, and I’d be surprised if he didn’t at least think about it! DC knows he'd return as a bit of hero and would also have less pressure than managing a L1 side but probably get a similar salary and playing budget. It could also a good launch pad for his career if he can get us promoted and then build on that in L1. Looking at it from another angle who else will employ him this summer as all the L1 jobs seem to be taken so he's going to have a long wait for a better offer. |
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on May 5, 2025 8:50:32 GMT
I guess his appointment would hinge on how he likes his wingers?
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Post by mangadoogas on May 5, 2025 8:51:42 GMT
Like you say, I think a lot of people underestimate the fact that DC is unemployed.. how many other clubs have our pull to him (location, emotion, potential salary, etc etc). It’s far from an opportunity I think he rejects off hand. He’d at least have to consider it. If he does what job higher up the leagues do we really think he has a chance of landing.. there can’t be many… Exeter if Caldwell goes? 🤷♂️ He's also being paid by Barnsley for at least the next 8 months so doesn't "need" to work, he can pick and bide his next opportunity. However if he takes another job then his Barnsley payments will stop so we will need to be competitive on salary too. Not to mention that he's walking into a snake pit of a poisoned chalice with a legacy on the line. It's not as straightforward as you make out. Payments will stop isn’t always true. Sometimes they still pay the difference. |
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Post by bluecamel on May 5, 2025 8:58:09 GMT
Hmm, not sure, it is not a horrendous appointment but not a name to put rears on seats, money through the gates. DC would put a few thousand on the gate and if he was able to put a team together pushing for the automatic promotion positions, you could have a full Mem and the usual tremendous away support, every Saturday - are you reading this Mr Chairman??
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Post by fanboy on May 5, 2025 8:59:53 GMT
He's also being paid by Barnsley for at least the next 8 months so doesn't "need" to work, he can pick and bide his next opportunity. However if he takes another job then his Barnsley payments will stop so we will need to be competitive on salary too. Not to mention that he's walking into a snake pit of a poisoned chalice with a legacy on the line. It's not as straightforward as you make out. Payments will stop isn’t always true. Sometimes they still pay the difference. I think I heard when MT took the job that he lost his pay there.. and maybe we fronted it up. Not sure tbh.. an interesting consideration though as all of Evatt, Duff & DC have been sacked in the last year |
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Post by phillistine on May 5, 2025 9:12:39 GMT
He's also being paid by Barnsley for at least the next 8 months so doesn't "need" to work, he can pick and bide his next opportunity. However if he takes another job then his Barnsley payments will stop so we will need to be competitive on salary too. Not to mention that he's walking into a snake pit of a poisoned chalice with a legacy on the line. It's not as straightforward as you make out. Payments will stop isn’t always true. Sometimes they still pay the difference. anyone with any sense would have a conversation with a previous employer. At the moment they have to budget to include his payoff as per the contract and if they can get away with say paying 50% of that figure in a lump sum then i suspect that they would snap his hands off. The same will be true of any future opportunity for Taylor and Calderon |
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Post by phillistine on May 5, 2025 9:15:15 GMT
When Duff was unemployed he was on the terraces at the Mem and so perhaps knows more about the club than we perceive.
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Post by BrightonGas on May 5, 2025 9:29:32 GMT
Worth listening to his recent post match interview when he lost to Rovers. Sounds just like a losing Rovers manager Dour personality. Matt Taylor MKII. That's a bit harsh Pirate! |
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Post by BrightonGas on May 5, 2025 9:34:05 GMT
Hmm, not sure, it is not a horrendous appointment but not a name to put rears on seats, money through the gates. DC would put a few thousand on the gate and if he was able to put a team together pushing for the automatic promotion positions, you could have a full Mem and the usual tremendous away support, every Saturday - are you reading this Mr Chairman?? Commercially DC would be massive |
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Post by A44, A34, A420, M4, M32, B4469 on May 5, 2025 9:43:28 GMT
At the risk of having the p..s taken out of me, Lee Johnson was paid by two clubs at the same time.
The managers have got as clever as the players with agents, many now do a clause where they won’t do a deal unless they get one years full pay still and can take a job still in the meantime if sacked.
Some managers even ask for clauses that if they are sacked and the team wins promotion still, they get a bonus still for that season.
Players contracts have stuff in them for assists, Chris Martin may have had this, so many bonus payments, managers are the same.
Don’t be surprised to see a player come on in the 92nd minute for an appearance bonus and the manager to be managed by the same agency. The take away on this is, don’t ever look at a contract as a straight 3 year deal on £4,000 a week, it’s a minefield, same as a pay decrease if you get relegation.
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Post by fanboy on May 5, 2025 9:44:37 GMT
At the risk of having the p..s taken out of me, Lee Johnson was paid by two clubs at the same time. The managers have got as clever as the players with agents, many now do a clause where they won’t do a deal unless they get one years full pay still and can take a job still in the meantime if sacked. Some managers even ask for clauses that if they are sacked and the team wins promotion still, they get a bonus still for that season. Players contracts have stuff in them for assists, Chris Martin may have had this, so many bonus payments, managers are the same. Don’t be surprised to see a player come on in the 92nd minute for an appearance bonus and the manager to be managed by the same agency. The take away on this is, don’t ever look at a contract as a straight 3 year deal on £4,000 a week, it’s a minefield, same as a pay decrease if you get relegation. Who do you want as the next manager? Intrigued |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 5, 2025 9:50:45 GMT
Hmm, not sure, it is not a horrendous appointment but not a name to put rears on seats, money through the gates. DC would put a few thousand on the gate and if he was able to put a team together pushing for the automatic promotion positions, you could have a full Mem and the usual tremendous away support, every Saturday - are you reading this Mr Chairman?? If we're pushing for promotion the Mem would be full regardless of who's the manager, the "DC effect" would put a 1,000+ on the gates even if we were mid table or even worse, at least this side of January. |
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Post by A44, A34, A420, M4, M32, B4469 on May 5, 2025 9:51:36 GMT
At the risk of having the p..s taken out of me, Lee Johnson was paid by two clubs at the same time. The managers have got as clever as the players with agents, many now do a clause where they won’t do a deal unless they get one years full pay still and can take a job still in the meantime if sacked. Some managers even ask for clauses that if they are sacked and the team wins promotion still, they get a bonus still for that season. Players contracts have stuff in them for assists, Chris Martin may have had this, so many bonus payments, managers are the same. Don’t be surprised to see a player come on in the 92nd minute for an appearance bonus and the manager to be managed by the same agency. The take away on this is, don’t ever look at a contract as a straight 3 year deal on £4,000 a week, it’s a minefield, same as a pay decrease if you get relegation. Who do you want as the next manager? Intrigued DC as long as Abdul behaves, the main option to lift this club again. The fans will give him grace, he will unite us and make us believe again. I look at Duff who is a good manager but I put him in the Taylor category and that’s a bit boring as his football. We need that manager jumping around on the touchline making us believe, that’s like DC, Barton and Evans. I think Evans goes to war for whatever club be works for, heart on sleeve…….we need ticket sales, we need a character and someone who lifts the fan base and this is DC, probably not Evans. I truly believe in football, you gain so many points lower down by siege mentality management, I think you find Dc and Evans build this, us against the world. The home ground becomes a fortress and momentum builds, Barton got us rocking after that Oxford FA Cup Game, I just don’t see Duff doing this. Like dating a lady, DC and Evans would feel privileged to date us, they’d want us, I think Duff would still miss the ex (Swansea) ground, facilities and Championship, it’s a job to get him back in the game and stepping stone, with momentum DC and Evans (backed) do back to back promotions like a potential Stockport this season. |
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