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Post by lympstonegas on Oct 26, 2024 15:03:28 GMT
Iād fine Forde 8 weeks wages for that, heās a proper bad apple as well around the changing room. Thatās what happens when owners sign players. Iāve been anti MT but I wouldnāt want to manage that idiot, that was basically like any of us in the office throwing the phone across it or turning over your table. Paul youāre doing it again I think Forde has a real future here. No one has ever suggested heās a bad apple. Iām sorry I donāt believe he was signed behind MTs back - I think what he said was lost in translation |
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Post by islandgas on Oct 26, 2024 15:04:22 GMT
Shout out to the travelling fans today who supported the team really well. Griffith's handling has definitely improve and he is coming for much more now. He is a good keeper. Their keeper was excellent. Don't know anything about him but he really impressed me.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 26, 2024 15:08:44 GMT
You tell me why he keeps insisting on playing 2 CDMās and also rotating Ward and Lindsay? because the full backs play high a lot of the time and you need cover. Ward has dodgy knees and Lindsay is getting on . So donāt play the full backs high, or play the full backs and still attack. And I donāt agree they play high, neither over loaded loaded today. But here is another one for you, you personally, if we keep playing them high as you say, if our keeper is the busiest in the league, if we have the 5th worst defence in the league, why doesnāt he try and set up to not be so defensive, not invite pressure and utilise the attacking squad? And the best of it, if Ward has dodgy knees and Linday is getting on, why doesnāt use younger legs? Campbell next to Disley, the latter got forward. Andy Reece next Ollie, the later drove us on. You look at the Barton side that beat inform Port Vale away 1-3, Coutts sat in front of a four man defence. Harry Anderson down the right, we went outside more often, not into traffic. Finley driving us on, Evans free role (Hutchinson), Anderson left and Collins on own upfront. Look at us, Ward, Lindsay and Conteh (occasions breaks the lines). Ward doesnāt do it anymore, Lindsay canāt, none of these three drove us on, the wingers are inverted, we are set up to defend and itās why Griffthis is the busiest keeper in the league, I donāt make up the stats! If you donāt agree with me that the full backs play high , you also disagree with Lee Brown who says the same thing whilst commentating today on radio Bristol . I donāt disagree that younger legs in midfield would be beneficial but you asked me why he rotated Ward and Lindsey . |
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Post by roadman on Oct 26, 2024 15:15:42 GMT
āWe trusted them and had to change playā on the back of the sending off.
Why not trust them and do this from the start, focus on attack over starting 6 defensive players today, 7 at Udders, just saying? š¤·š¼āāļø
Weāve played 2 CDMās all season and we have the busiest keeper in Div1 but we played well second half like we did at Posh, Udders and Burton.
How about setting us up to start on the offensive, attack over inviting Griffthis to be busy š¤·š¼āāļø
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 26, 2024 15:19:03 GMT
Posh, Udders and today, easy to make a fight of it losing and Burton the same as well. Handbrake manager sets us up to not concede and try and nick a goal or be in the game 0-0 to 70th minute. Starts with two CDMās every week, he had Evans last season who could break the lines like Chris Lines. They battled again today whilst losing, we are huff and puff stuff, he wonāt trust someone like Conteh or Ward to do the Declan Rice role. He blocks us up to protect the defence, proper handbrake manager but because we were unlucky today, because we tried, it all goes on, until he takes it off, we will never push for 6th place. Calling it wrong today Roadie , we played well and we were unlucky. We didnāt just set up not to lose as we created some great chances throughout the game and were positive when we could be against a decent side away from home. Miles & miles better than Huddersfield last week. Not to admit that is just churlish in my book . Were we really any better with 11 men or was it simply a case of Reading not being as good opposition as Huddersfield or Posh? I can't recall us having many decent attempts on goal with 11 men on the pitch? With 10 men we were superb but was that players just trying to get revenge for the sending off or MT's influence? I sense it was just the former. |
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Post by returngas on Oct 26, 2024 15:19:13 GMT
Odd to feel so positive after a defeat. A different ref and Forde thinking before he acted and a Reading keeper not on such good form and we might well be celebrating an away win. If the team can keep this style/intensity of play up then things will move in the right. Will be interesting to see how we deal with playing a full game without a centre forward week.
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Post by socrates on Oct 26, 2024 15:22:14 GMT
Posh, Udders and today, easy to make a fight of it losing and Burton the same as well. Handbrake manager sets us up to not concede and try and nick a goal or be in the game 0-0 to 70th minute. Starts with two CDMās every week, he had Evans last season who could break the lines like Chris Lines. They battled again today whilst losing, we are huff and puff stuff, he wonāt trust someone like Conteh or Ward to do the Declan Rice role. He blocks us up to protect the defence, proper handbrake manager but because we were unlucky today, because we tried, it all goes on, until he takes it off, we will never push for 6th place. 4231 isnāt a defensive formation and we werenāt defensive today, we looked to take the game to reading , we played on the front foot and reading looked most dangerous on the counter as we were so attacking. Thatās how I saw today anyway. I really do wonder how people see football so differently. |
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Post by roadman on Oct 26, 2024 15:27:58 GMT
Calling it wrong today Roadie , we played well and we were unlucky. We didnāt just set up not to lose as we created some great chances throughout the game and were positive when we could be against a decent side away from home. Miles & miles better than Huddersfield last week. Not to admit that is just churlish in my book . Were we really any better with 11 men or was it simply a case of Reading not being as good opposition as Huddersfield or Posh? I can't recall us having many decent attempts on goal with 11 men on the pitch? With 10 men we were superb but was that players just trying to get revenge for the sending off or MT's influence? I sense it was just the former. šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼ We finish every away game well because we are losing and chasing the game. Today he just said āwe trusted themā and changed it, I was at Posh, he had to do it there. He doesnāt trust himself and heās a handbrake manager. The Swindon game will be like a horror movie for MT, itās scared him so much, he wonāt ever try anything attack minded first again. Trusts his old pros, Wayne Carlisle openly said in his interview, the manager is defensive and Iām attacking so it balances up well but itās clear to the boss is having the final say on our team identity, we are a poor version of what Graham Coughlan mastered with us. Not once this season away have we scored first away from home, he sets us up defensive to try and nick a goal. š |
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Post by roadman on Oct 26, 2024 15:37:34 GMT
Posh, Udders and today, easy to make a fight of it losing and Burton the same as well. Handbrake manager sets us up to not concede and try and nick a goal or be in the game 0-0 to 70th minute. Starts with two CDMās every week, he had Evans last season who could break the lines like Chris Lines. They battled again today whilst losing, we are huff and puff stuff, he wonāt trust someone like Conteh or Ward to do the Declan Rice role. He blocks us up to protect the defence, proper handbrake manager but because we were unlucky today, because we tried, it all goes on, until he takes it off, we will never push for 6th place. 4231 isnāt a defensive formation and we werenāt defensive today, we looked to take the game to reading , we played on the front foot and reading looked most dangerous on the counter as we were so attacking. Thatās how I saw today anyway. I really do wonder how people see football so differently. I see the game simple, the 4 are defenders and the 2 in front of them are defensive minded with no legs. We are sitting 6 behind the ball, we let the opposition have the ball and we hope to counter attack and defend. 42% possession today, 42% at Udders, 38% Burton, 44% Posh, 43-% Barnsley, all away. We are not set up to attack and itās based on counter attack, we donāt get numbers in the opposition box. I watch a lot of football, 5 of the England games in Germany in person, member at Arsenal, I think I understand the game. The good sides who play counter attack football, like Tottenham get numbers and legs forward into the box, we donāt. We say to the opposition, you can have the ball, we are going to defend against you having it. We are happy for our keeper to be the busiest in Div1 with 4.1 big saves a game, the issue is the manager canāt see we are not good at it?!?! The game I see backed up with stats. |
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Post by socrates on Oct 26, 2024 15:41:11 GMT
4231 isnāt a defensive formation and we werenāt defensive today, we looked to take the game to reading , we played on the front foot and reading looked most dangerous on the counter as we were so attacking. Thatās how I saw today anyway. I really do wonder how people see football so differently. I see the game simple, the 4 are defenders and the 2 in front of them are defensive minded with no legs. We are sitting 6 behind the ball, we let the opposition have the ball and we hope to counter attack and defend. 42% possession today, 42% at Udders, 38% Burton, 44% Posh, 43-% Barnsley, all away. We are not set up to attack and itās based on counter attack, we donāt get numbers in the opposition box. I watch a lot of football, 5 of the England games in Germany in person, member at Arsenal, I think I understand the game. The good sides who play counter attack football, like Tottenham get numbers and legs forward into the box, we donāt. We say to the opposition, you can have the ball, we are going to defend against you having it. We are happy for our keeper to be the busiest in Div1 with 4.1 big saves a game, the issue is the manager canāt see we are not good at it?!?! The game I see backed up with stats. And you saw today like that ? |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 26, 2024 15:41:22 GMT
4231 isnāt a defensive formation and we werenāt defensive today, we looked to take the game to reading , we played on the front foot and reading looked most dangerous on the counter as we were so attacking. Thatās how I saw today anyway. I really do wonder how people see football so differently. I see the game simple, the 4 are defenders and the 2 in front of them are defensive minded with no legs. We are sitting 6 behind the ball, we let the opposition have the ball and we hope to counter attack and defend. 42% possession today, 42% at Udders, 38% Burton, 44% Posh, 43-% Barnsley, all away. We are not set up to attack and itās based on counter attack, we donāt get numbers in the opposition box. I watch a lot of football, 5 of the England games in Germany in person, member at Arsenal, I think I understand the game. The brilliant sides who play counter attack football, like Tottenham get numbers and legs forward into the box, we donāt. We say to the opposition, you can have the ball, we are going to defend against you having it. We are happy for our keeper to be the busiest in Div1 with 4.1 big saves a game, the issue is the manager canāt see we are not good at it?!?! The game I see backed up with stats. Youāre wrong but I love the way you never give an inch ! šš |
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Post by roadman on Oct 26, 2024 15:48:26 GMT
I see the game simple, the 4 are defenders and the 2 in front of them are defensive minded with no legs. We are sitting 6 behind the ball, we let the opposition have the ball and we hope to counter attack and defend. 42% possession today, 42% at Udders, 38% Burton, 44% Posh, 43-% Barnsley, all away. We are not set up to attack and itās based on counter attack, we donāt get numbers in the opposition box. I watch a lot of football, 5 of the England games in Germany in person, member at Arsenal, I think I understand the game. The brilliant sides who play counter attack football, like Tottenham get numbers and legs forward into the box, we donāt. We say to the opposition, you can have the ball, we are going to defend against you having it. We are happy for our keeper to be the busiest in Div1 with 4.1 big saves a game, the issue is the manager canāt see we are not good at it?!?! The game I see backed up with stats. Youāre wrong but I love the way you never give an inch ! šš Iām happy for you to think I am wrong, I never said today āwe trusted them and changed itā, the manager did. I question why he never trusted them from the start, I question why we chase every away game from a losing position and I question his tactics. At Rotherham at 0-0, right till the end he choose to protect the ZERO in our defence column and the point hoping to ānickā a win. He only goes for it when he has to, when does he change a game with his tactics, when does he go and win a game with us drawing first of all? Matt Taylor is a reactive handbrake manager, very similar to Southgate, neither pro active, both defenders. For 4 minutes in Berlin after Palmer scored we had Spain on the ropes, Gareth signalled to Gallagher and Trippier to get the tracksuits off. Stones with a ball back to Pickford, we never saw the ball again, the subs showed his intention to š© house extra time, we never for the win. |
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Post by dulwichgas on Oct 26, 2024 15:49:33 GMT
4231 isnāt a defensive formation and we werenāt defensive today, we looked to take the game to reading , we played on the front foot and reading looked most dangerous on the counter as we were so attacking. Thatās how I saw today anyway. I really do wonder how people see football so differently. I see the game simple, the 4 are defenders and the 2 in front of them are defensive minded with no legs. We are sitting 6 behind the ball, we let the opposition have the ball and we hope to counter attack and defend. 42% possession today, 42% at Udders, 38% Burton, 44% Posh, 43-% Barnsley, all away. We are not set up to attack and itās based on counter attack, we donāt get numbers in the opposition box. I watch a lot of football, 5 of the England games in Germany in person, member at Arsenal, I think I understand the game. The good sides who play counter attack football, like Tottenham get numbers and legs forward into the box, we donāt. We say to the opposition, you can have the ball, we are going to defend against you having it. We are happy for our keeper to be the busiest in Div1 with 4.1 big saves a game, the issue is the manager canāt see we are not good at it?!?! The game I see backed up with stats. What do you want to play, 2 at the back and 8 up top? Mola and Moore may well be capable centre backs but are also ball carriers and offer support going forward. You obviously weren't at the game. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 26, 2024 15:53:39 GMT
I see the game simple, the 4 are defenders and the 2 in front of them are defensive minded with no legs. We are sitting 6 behind the ball, we let the opposition have the ball and we hope to counter attack and defend. 42% possession today, 42% at Udders, 38% Burton, 44% Posh, 43-% Barnsley, all away. We are not set up to attack and itās based on counter attack, we donāt get numbers in the opposition box. I watch a lot of football, 5 of the England games in Germany in person, member at Arsenal, I think I understand the game. The good sides who play counter attack football, like Tottenham get numbers and legs forward into the box, we donāt. We say to the opposition, you can have the ball, we are going to defend against you having it. We are happy for our keeper to be the busiest in Div1 with 4.1 big saves a game, the issue is the manager canāt see we are not good at it?!?! The game I see backed up with stats. And you saw today like that ? Did you watch the full game, what clear cut chances did we create before the sending off? |
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Post by dulwichgas on Oct 26, 2024 15:56:58 GMT
And you saw today like that ? Did you watch the full game, what clear cut chances did we create before the sending off? Ruel was through 1 on 1?  ?? |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 26, 2024 16:00:59 GMT
Did you watch the full game, what clear cut chances did we create before the sending off? Ruel was through 1 on 1? ?? Donāt think Topper watched the game š |
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Post by socrates on Oct 26, 2024 16:06:28 GMT
I saw a very open end to end game between two sides on the front foot before the sending off and one very determined team going all out after the red and goal with the other hanging on for dear life.
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Post by roadman on Oct 26, 2024 16:11:22 GMT
I see the game simple, the 4 are defenders and the 2 in front of them are defensive minded with no legs. We are sitting 6 behind the ball, we let the opposition have the ball and we hope to counter attack and defend. 42% possession today, 42% at Udders, 38% Burton, 44% Posh, 43-% Barnsley, all away. We are not set up to attack and itās based on counter attack, we donāt get numbers in the opposition box. I watch a lot of football, 5 of the England games in Germany in person, member at Arsenal, I think I understand the game. The good sides who play counter attack football, like Tottenham get numbers and legs forward into the box, we donāt. We say to the opposition, you can have the ball, we are going to defend against you having it. We are happy for our keeper to be the busiest in Div1 with 4.1 big saves a game, the issue is the manager canāt see we are not good at it?!?! The game I see backed up with stats. What do you want to play, 2 at the back and 8 up top? Mola and Moore may well be capable centre backs but are also ball carriers and offer support going forward. You obviously weren't at the game. No I watched it on TV, only seen 2 away games this season and missed one home game, any not gone to, Iāve seen on the box. Iād like us to play one CDM, one number 9 upfront. We have an abundance of attacking talent in the squad. I did like Bartonās approach of Coutts in the quarter back role protecting the 4. Right now the two š¦ in front of the defence are being over run and inviting pressure. The reason Southgate loved Gallagher was the press option he gave us, Iād rather see Macca doing this and Hutchinson in front of a Conteh/Ward/Linday protecting the 4. Iād set us up 4-1-4-1 or 4-1-3-2. Right now we are choosing 6 defensive players, the keeper is the busiest in the league, we donāt have possession and when we counter, we have nothing in the box with legs. Klopp loved the 4-1-3-2 at Dortmund and many took this on. |
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Post by richiep on Oct 26, 2024 16:13:18 GMT
Apologises for the incredibly banal question but I donāt suppose anybody picked up a kids coat in the away end today? My 8yo has left it behind š no tears about the result but heās more upset about the coat. Iāve emailed the club. Thanks everyone.
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Post by gasify on Oct 26, 2024 16:13:58 GMT
My negative on today is rotating the two older injury prone CDMās Lindsay and Ward next to another CDM Conteh. We only got to see the best of Hutch because it was forced on him, weāve got a handbrake manager, he protects the defence first over attack. Did you watch the game? Our keeper was in their penalty area for the last 5 mins. Even got his head onto a corner that was well saved from Hunt(?). That's definately not hand brake. |
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