Stats don’t lie

[cheltenhamgas]

Hope the board have seen these since Taylor took over on his first game v Cheltenham at home.
P39 W 12 D 7 L 20. 43 points from possible 117 at 1.01 ppg ! ( League games only ) 

[pirate]

Awful

[simonj]

Oct 20, 2024 13:06:05 GMT pirate said:

Awful

Joke the way we play

[alanrg]

A truly dreadful record Taylor out

[Gas-Ed]

He can’t argue if he’s sacked. That’s abysmal.

[BishopstonBRFC]

Amazing how many goals we score considering those stats. Imagine if we started with 4 at the back and attempted to actually win a game!

[roadman]

I was happy to hammer Barton for this sort of stuff, the stats don’t lie, anything but a win Tuesday night and he has to go.

[slimbridgegas]

We were warned…..
QUOTE
"Good luck to Matt Taylor, and I would never wish anything bad on anyone, but he's not who I would have picked in one million years.
Ollie.

Interim manager - time to get him in! In a temporary role - it can’t get any worse!

The team lacks any drive or guts, time to bring in some real passion which has been “lacking for years”.
Huddersfield away, whilst we were never expected to win, we never even turned up in ANY aspect of the game - we looked clueless.
811 travelled which in itself is remarkable and we deserve better.
These players need guidance and motivation in addition to coaching ( which in itself is a laugh!)

Tuesday is D Day ….. but even if we win, the track record speaks for itself and we are delaying the inevitable.
I’m sure MT is working hard and is a nice bloke. But sometimes things don’t work out.

[Slide away]

Oct 20, 2024 18:58:44 GMT roadman said:

I was happy to hammer Barton for this sort of stuff, the stats don’t lie, anything but a win Tuesday night and he has to go.

Tuesday shouldn't impact anything imo, he can't keep being given 'must win to keep job' games every month. We've seen enough over 12 months to.show that he isn't capable, nothing is going to change long term if anything it is getting progressively worse!

[roadman]

Oct 20, 2024 20:30:00 GMT Slide away said:

Oct 20, 2024 18:58:44 GMT roadman said:

I was happy to hammer Barton for this sort of stuff, the stats don’t lie, anything but a win Tuesday night and he has to go.

Tuesday shouldn't impact anything imo, he can't keep being given 'must win to keep job' games every month. We've seen enough over 12 months to.show that he isn't capable, nothing is going to change long term if anything it is getting progressively worse!

I tend to agree with you but it only seems wins are keeping him in his job and the EP stated this 2 weeks ago that the Charlton win and a loss would have seen him go. I notice Saturday he said if we beat Shrews that’s 3 wins in 4 games, even MT knows he’s walking the tightrope.

I do think the Shrews game is significant because they are a real poor side below us and are carrying fodder like Marquis upfront!

I’ve said before, it’s like the person wanting to end the relationship but can’t because it’s Christmas, all we are doing is delaying this sacking unless we go on a proper run which none of us sees.

[gasify]

Oct 21, 2024 10:42:54 GMT roadman said:

Oct 20, 2024 20:30:00 GMT Slide away said:

Tuesday shouldn't impact anything imo, he can't keep being given 'must win to keep job' games every month. We've seen enough over 12 months to.show that he isn't capable, nothing is going to change long term if anything it is getting progressively worse!

I tend to agree with you but it only seems wins are keeping him in his job and the EP stated this 2 weeks ago that the Charlton win and a loss would have seen him go. I notice Saturday he said if we beat Shrews that’s 3 wins in 4 games, even MT knows he’s walking the tightrope.

I do think the Shrews game is significant because they are a real poor side below us and are carrying fodder like Marquis upfront!

I’ve said before, it’s like the person wanting to end the relationship but can’t because it’s Christmas, all we are doing is delaying this sacking unless we go on a proper run which none of us sees.

Is 3 wins in four games not a 'proper' run?

[roadman]

No and I’ve always struggled with “in as many games” line because where do you stop and start?

The issue is the interviewers and we’ve always had nice friendly ones at Radio Bristol. I’d have stuck it back on him, 3 wins in 4 Matt but collectively the league table doesn’t lie nor the stats since you took over.

For me the basic stats is we need 1.6 points a game to get us sniffing around 6th place, 1.7 should get you in the play offs. So to me a good run is where over 6 games we are getting 2 points a game as we are behind the curve already.

A win Tuesday gives him and us a perfect bounce for us playing in a great stadium Saturday in front of over 1500 Gasheads supporting us. I felt last season Mangs fell flat in front of us a struggling Reading, if he’d have won that night, I think he might have got the job. MT can’t afford another Udders Saturday in front of a big away following, the Reading game is massive for him.

[madridgas]

So we scrape a win tomorrow and then get a draw at Reading and would have collected 10 points from 15, and given the thread title of "stats-don't-lie" we should all be pretty accepting of what many see as a rebuilding season. Unfortunately, I don't think that would be enough, for those that want football that is enjoyable to watch, or a personality off the pitch. Next set of poor results and some fans would be calling for his head again. I wonder if the owners think the same way ?

[lastminutewinner]

Oct 21, 2024 12:08:09 GMT madridgas said:

So we scrape a win tomorrow and then get a draw at Reading and would have collected 10 points from 15, and given the thread title of "stats-don't-lie" we should all be pretty accepting of what many see as a rebuilding season. Unfortunately, I don't think that would be enough, for those that want football that is enjoyable to watch, or a personality off the pitch. Next set of poor results and some fans would be calling for his head again. I wonder if the owners think the same way ?

They chose MT so maybe they will give him more time to turn it around.

I just cant see any progression on the pitch, in fact we seem to have got worse the longer the season has gone on. Not a good sign.

Maybe we will have another sacking on Saturday on the anniversary of Mr Barton's exit

[discodave]

Weston must be rubbing their hands praying we scrape a couple of draws so he's still in charge.... Clueless doesn't come close

[Hugo the Elder]

Stats do lie.

They don't take into account the opposition played, injuries, the individual players development and all sorts of other factors like fitness, if a game is home or away etc.

I'm not defending Taylor but stats alone are meaningless.

They are being used to attack a manager because they can fit a narrative.

[justin blue]

Oct 21, 2024 14:04:14 GMT Hugo the Elder said:

Stats do lie.

They don't take into account the opposition played, injuries, the individual players development and all sorts of other factors like fitness, if a game is home or away etc.

I'm not defending Taylor but stats alone are meaningless.

They are being used to attack a manager because they can fit a narrative.

Agreed football does not follow set patterns otherwise the world would have been full of pools millionaires years ago. Stats are only a record of performance over a given period. That can change dramatically if results and or performances improve. I’m not saying that will happen, but after two wins out of three there’s a chance it could and maybe we should give it a little longer.  

[mrgasman]

Oct 21, 2024 14:04:14 GMT Hugo the Elder said:

Stats do lie.

They don't take into account the opposition played, injuries, the individual players development and all sorts of other factors like fitness, if a game is home or away etc.

I'm not defending Taylor but stats alone are meaningless.

They are being used to attack a manager because they can fit a narrative.

😂😂😂.

[Hugo the Elder]

Oct 21, 2024 15:12:44 GMT mrgasman said:

Oct 21, 2024 14:04:14 GMT Hugo the Elder said:

Stats do lie.

They don't take into account the opposition played, injuries, the individual players development and all sorts of other factors like fitness, if a game is home or away etc.

I'm not defending Taylor but stats alone are meaningless.

They are being used to attack a manager because they can fit a narrative.

😂😂😂.

What is so funny to you?

Stats without context are meaningless.

Please explain otherwise?

[Topper Gas]

Oct 21, 2024 11:34:23 GMT roadman said:

No and I’ve always struggled with “in as many games” line because where do you stop and start?

The issue is the interviewers and we’ve always had nice friendly ones at Radio Bristol. I’d have stuck it back on him, 3 wins in 4 Matt but collectively the league table doesn’t lie nor the stats since you took over.

For me the basic stats is we need 1.6 points a game to get us sniffing around 6th place, 1.7 should get you in the play offs. So to me a good run is where over 6 games we are getting 2 points a game as we are behind the curve already.

A win Tuesday gives him and us a perfect bounce for us playing in a great stadium Saturday in front of over 1500 Gasheads supporting us. I felt last season Mangs fell flat in front of us a struggling Reading, if he’d have won that night, I think he might have got the job. MT can’t afford another Udders Saturday in front of a big away following, the Reading game is massive for him.

If we win tomorrow night then I doubt it is that massive as you can't see the board sacking him when we're well clear of the bottom 4? If we fail to beat Exeter at home and also WSM in the cup then those two games could be more massive for him. if we can survive until after those two matches then he should then get a win from either Lincoln or Crawley. Which suggests he could be gone with a loss tomorrow or still here come mid to late November.