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Post by joefrankie on Oct 16, 2024 11:15:25 GMT
Nor should they criticise others who choose to attend games of their choice. If we ever were to get to the final, there would be a remarkable amount of hand wringers at Wembley. š“āā ļø Spot on, weād take 20,000 to Wembley plus if we made the final of this. I donāt get the abuse for people who go, I love 90 miles away and if I had nothing to do on a Tuesday night, living in Bristol with the chance to see mates, yeah I might go every now and then. Overseas some fans in their thousands watch the reserve sides, this high and mighty lot questioning people going, I just donāt get it?! Iāve always thought, make the FA Cup winner a Champions League place and all of a sudden it becomes massive. The same with the Leyland DAF (we took 30,000 plus that day!). Winner perhaps guaranteed into FA Cup 3rd round, extra 3 bonus league points, all of a sudden it becomes interesting! The point about boycotting this competition is about making a stand against the Premier League. It may be futile, but it's worth trying. This used to be OUR competition. A competition with integrity. Third and fourth tier clubs playing against each other with a chance of a trip to Wembley at the end of it. And there were decent crowds once clubs were only a couple of games away from the Final. Then the Premier League clubs say to the EFL "you know that cup competition you have for your clubs? Well that would be a good little training exercise for our under 21's." And before you know it, the EFL have turned over and had their tummy tickled and our cup competition has been hijacked. Same old story; no one has the bollards to stand up to the Premier league. Pathetic. |
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Post by Beer Baron on Oct 16, 2024 11:16:35 GMT
For the statto's.... what's our lowest home attendance for a senior game (not a friendly or Covid) ? Wiki says 889 versus Cheltenham, can we "beat" this against Exeter in a few weeks time ? Part of me wants to go to be a part of history, but if I go I lessen the chances. I've got 2 lower than that. 865 v Leyton Orient 04/12/2019 864 v MK Dons 13/12/2022 I'd be very happy for Milton Keynes to keep the distinction of our lowest ever attendance (or their existence) |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Oct 16, 2024 12:08:50 GMT
To be fair the only games in the competition I begrudge people attending are against u21 opposition. Infact I think it would be quite a good statement to have a large attendance vs another league side and then virtually empty against a U21 side.
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 16, 2024 12:35:20 GMT
Spot on, weād take 20,000 to Wembley plus if we made the final of this. I donāt get the abuse for people who go, I love 90 miles away and if I had nothing to do on a Tuesday night, living in Bristol with the chance to see mates, yeah I might go every now and then. Overseas some fans in their thousands watch the reserve sides, this high and mighty lot questioning people going, I just donāt get it?! Iāve always thought, make the FA Cup winner a Champions League place and all of a sudden it becomes massive. The same with the Leyland DAF (we took 30,000 plus that day!). Winner perhaps guaranteed into FA Cup 3rd round, extra 3 bonus league points, all of a sudden it becomes interesting! The point about boycotting this competition is about making a stand against the Premier League. It may be futile, but it's worth trying. This used to be OUR competition. A competition with integrity. Third and fourth tier clubs playing against each other with a chance of a trip to Wembley at the end of it. And there were decent crowds once clubs were only a couple of games away from the Final. Then the Premier League clubs say to the EFL "you know that cup competition you have for your clubs? Well that would be a good little training exercise for our under 21's." And before you know it, the EFL have turned over and had their tummy tickled and our cup competition has been hijacked. Same old story; no one has the bollards to stand up to the Premier league. Pathetic.Yes I agree will your last paragraph. That's what it was, we did āhave our tummy tickledā. But that was the fault of the Chairmen who went along with it, for the money. And still we are waiting for the latest āhand outā that the PL are refusing to sanction currently. But not the fault of fans and for boycotting fans to criticise those that go is wrong. We all make our choices and thatās good enough for me. Not my place to tell others what or what not to watch. And thatās an interesting take by Roadman regarding selection for the winners until the third round. Worth considering although they would then miss out on two rounds of matches. UTG! |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 16, 2024 13:41:55 GMT
Spot on, weād take 20,000 to Wembley plus if we made the final of this. I donāt get the abuse for people who go, I love 90 miles away and if I had nothing to do on a Tuesday night, living in Bristol with the chance to see mates, yeah I might go every now and then. Overseas some fans in their thousands watch the reserve sides, this high and mighty lot questioning people going, I just donāt get it?! Iāve always thought, make the FA Cup winner a Champions League place and all of a sudden it becomes massive. The same with the Leyland DAF (we took 30,000 plus that day!). Winner perhaps guaranteed into FA Cup 3rd round, extra 3 bonus league points, all of a sudden it becomes interesting! The point about boycotting this competition is about making a stand against the Premier League.Ā It may be futile, but it's worth trying.Ā This used to be OUR competition.Ā A competition with integrity.Ā Third and fourth tier clubs playing against each other with a chance of a trip to Wembley at the end of it.Ā And there were decent crowds once clubs were only a couple of games away from the Final. Then the Premier League clubs say to the EFL "you know that cup competition you have for your clubs?Ā Well that would be a good little training exercise for our under 21's."Ā And before you know it, the EFL have turned over and had their tummy tickled and our cup competition has been hijacked.Ā Same old story; no one has the bollards to stand up to the Premier league.Ā Pathetic. Excellent post, jf. It's a bit more sinister than that....they held a kangaroo court poll and declared the answers without sharing the results! Apparently most voted for it!! I'm betting most clubs would not approve of this newer format. We all know where we are, it's pitiful to pretend this is beneficial to us when Premier clubs just roll in and out of it on a whim.. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 16, 2024 14:53:23 GMT
The point about boycotting this competition is about making a stand against the Premier League.Ā It may be futile, but it's worth trying.Ā This used to be OUR competition.Ā A competition with integrity.Ā Third and fourth tier clubs playing against each other with a chance of a trip to Wembley at the end of it.Ā And there were decent crowds once clubs were only a couple of games away from the Final. Then the Premier League clubs say to the EFL "you know that cup competition you have for your clubs?Ā Well that would be a good little training exercise for our under 21's."Ā And before you know it, the EFL have turned over and had their tummy tickled and our cup competition has been hijacked.Ā Same old story; no one has the bollards to stand up to the Premier league.Ā Pathetic. Excellent post, jf. It's a bit more sinister than that....they held a kangaroo court poll and declared the answers without sharing the results! Apparently most voted for it!! I'm betting most clubs would not approve of this newer format. We all know where we are, it's pitiful to pretend this is beneficial to us when Premier clubs just roll in and out of it on a whim.. Didn't Rovers vote against it? I'm sure I read a year or so ago that we were one of only a handful objecting. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 16, 2024 15:43:03 GMT
Excellent post, jf. It's a bit more sinister than that....they held a kangaroo court poll and declared the answers without sharing the results! Apparently most voted for it!! I'm betting most clubs would not approve of this newer format. We all know where we are, it's pitiful to pretend this is beneficial to us when Premier clubs just roll in and out of it on a whim.. Didn't Rovers vote against it? I'm sure I read a year or so ago that we were one of only a handful objecting. I think so, we did but as the results weren't made transparent, who knows!? |
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Post by gasify on Oct 17, 2024 8:25:28 GMT
Spot on, weād take 20,000 to Wembley plus if we made the final of this. I donāt get the abuse for people who go, I love 90 miles away and if I had nothing to do on a Tuesday night, living in Bristol with the chance to see mates, yeah I might go every now and then. Overseas some fans in their thousands watch the reserve sides, this high and mighty lot questioning people going, I just donāt get it?! Iāve always thought, make the FA Cup winner a Champions League place and all of a sudden it becomes massive. The same with the Leyland DAF (we took 30,000 plus that day!). Winner perhaps guaranteed into FA Cup 3rd round, extra 3 bonus league points, all of a sudden it becomes interesting! The point about boycotting this competition is about making a stand against the Premier League.Ā It may be futile, but it's worth trying.Ā This used to be OUR competition.Ā A competition with integrity.Ā Third and fourth tier clubs playing against each other with a chance of a trip to Wembley at the end of it.Ā And there were decent crowds once clubs were only a couple of games away from the Final. Then the Premier League clubs say to the EFL "you know that cup competition you have for your clubs?Ā Well that would be a good little training exercise for our under 21's."Ā And before you know it, the EFL have turned over and had their tummy tickled and our cup competition has been hijacked.Ā Same old story; no one has the bollards to stand up to the Premier league.Ā Pathetic. Yeah, it's called championship, league one and league 2. If teams stop taking the premiership youth on loan then the talent pool won't get stripped the way it does and those players can belong to a championship/league1/league2 club to develop. The cancer isn't this competition. The cancer is the loans. |
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Post by roadman on Oct 17, 2024 8:47:54 GMT
The point is the boycott is being done by a load of š©š ās, utter Shitters. And itās not working because they are not boycotting it?!?!
42,000 at the final last year between Posh and Wycombe, if it had been Oxford v Rovers it would have been over 55,000 and probably over 60,000. Now the boycotter whose team gets gets to the final, all his mates are going, in the end I bet 99% say, feck it I will go!
The only way this changes is the Wembley final in in front of 9,760 like the FA Trophy or something. 900, 1,800 or 5,000 doesnāt matter on a Tuesday night, the TV deal is done, Papa Johns gets to take his sponsors and partners to games and increase brand image, the money has all been paid to the FA.
If you look at our average attendance, weāve got 6,000 not going, letās say half of these are boycotters, is anyone really telling me 3,000 regular attending Gasheads would boycott Wembley?!
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Post by roadman on Oct 17, 2024 8:57:13 GMT
And finally, if the sh** got relegated and we got them in an Area Final, the Mem would sell out.
The boycott is pathetic, majority hypocrites when it gets to the business end of the tournament.
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Post by gasify on Oct 17, 2024 12:52:02 GMT
And finally, if the sh** got relegated and we got them in an Area Final, the Mem would sell out. The boycott is pathetic, majority hypocrites when it gets to the business end of the tournament. A better boycott by football league fans would be to cancel their sky subscriptions. Stop the money going to the Premiership. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Oct 17, 2024 13:05:50 GMT
And finally, if the sh** got relegated and we got them in an Area Final, the Mem would sell out. The boycott is pathetic, majority hypocrites when it gets to the business end of the tournament. A better boycott by football league fans would be to cancel their sky subscriptions. Stop the money going to the Premiership. I pointed that out years ago, nobody seemed to agree with me at the time. |
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Post by gasify on Oct 17, 2024 15:07:18 GMT
A better boycott by football league fans would be to cancel their sky subscriptions. Stop the money going to the Premiership. I pointed that out years ago, nobody seemed to agree with me at the time. Solidarity Reg. (You were right BTW) |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 17, 2024 15:59:47 GMT
Excellent post, jf. It's a bit more sinister than that....they held a kangaroo court poll and declared the answers without sharing the results! Apparently most voted for it!! I'm betting most clubs would not approve of this newer format. We all know where we are, it's pitiful to pretend this is beneficial to us when Premier clubs just roll in and out of it on a whim.. Didn't Rovers vote against it? I'm sure I read a year or so ago that we were one of only a handful objecting. Yes think we did vote against. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 17, 2024 16:23:04 GMT
The point is the boycott is being done by a load of š©š ās, utter Shitters. And itās not working because they are not boycotting it?!?! Ok I'll nibble: Ahhhhhh I get it now. It's totally unfair to criticise GasHeads that want to attend, but perfectly reasonable to use that language against GasHeads that don't! There's other ways to support the club financially apart from turning up, you know? Does that make anyone pursuing that a s house too? |
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Post by roadman on Oct 17, 2024 16:30:44 GMT
The point is the boycott is being done by a load of š©š ās, utter Shitters. And itās not working because they are not boycotting it?!?! Ok I'll nibble: Ahhhhhh I get it now. It's totally unfair to criticise GasHeads that want to attend, but perfectly reasonable to use that language against GasHeads that don't! There's other ways to support the club financially apart from turning up, you know? Does that make anyone pursuing that a s house too? Talking about in general, the fans all over the country. The ones who boycott will end up at Wembley if their respective teams makes it to the final. Papa Johns or whoever itās, get a showcase final on average with 50,000 fans plus, the point is, the boycott doesnāt work and then itās not adhered to. I ask you personally, would you boycott us if we made Wembley this season? Iāve supported us 41 years, Iāve seen us at Wembley on four occasions, 90, 95, 07, 15ā¦ā¦ā¦Iād feel really proud to miss us again wouldnāt I, I mean a day out seeing your team at one of the homes of football?!?! |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 18, 2024 5:59:00 GMT
Ok I'll nibble: Ahhhhhh I get it now. It's totally unfair to criticise GasHeads that want to attend, but perfectly reasonable to use that language against GasHeads that don't! There's other ways to support the club financially apart from turning up, you know? Does that make anyone pursuing that a s house too? Talking about in general, the fans all over the country. The ones who boycott will end up at Wembley if their respective teams makes it to the final. Papa Johns or whoever itās, get a showcase final on average with 50,000 fans plus, the point is, the boycott doesnāt work and then itās not adhered to. I ask you personally, would you boycott us if we made Wembley this season? Iāve supported us 41 years, Iāve seen us at Wembley on four occasions, 90, 95, 07, 15ā¦ā¦ā¦Iād feel really proud to miss us again wouldnāt I, I mean a day out seeing your team at one of the homes of football?!?! Absolutely boycott yes....the competition is not the Full Members Cup. It's a slave to the Premiership whims. I'll accept some fans of all clubs will attend at Wembley and pre final too, that's up to them and where they draw their line with their principles isn't it? But it still doesn't detract from the point.... it's a disgrace, and I won't help fund it. I still think if it's unacceptable to berate the fan from attending, it's just as unacceptable to berate the fan that chooses not to.. |
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Post by justagasaway on Oct 18, 2024 6:59:49 GMT
Do you all agree with this list of lowest attendances:
2020-21 Official attendance of nil at all League matches, due to global pandemic
League: 1,000 (26.12.1927 at Merthyr T, 30.4.1930, at Walsall and 2.12.1933 at Torquay U)
Home: 1500 (6.1.1935 v Northampton T)
League (post-war): 1,101 at Accrington S, 22.10.2013
FA Cup: 1,000 (29.9.1897 v Warmley, 16.10.1897 v Bedminster)
League Cup: 2,137 (2.9.1981 at Crewe A)
Glos Cup: 800 (24.2.1894 v Gloucester)
D3(S) Cup: 1,000 (1.2.1937 v Watford)
Wartime: 704 (23.12.1939 v Torquay U)
Bris and District Lge: 200 (8.10.1892 v Trowbridge, 5.1.1895 v Clevedon)
Conference: 800 (11.11.2014 at Alfreton T)
FL Trophy: 669 (23.11.2022 at Colchester U) [home ā 864, 13.12.2022 v MK Dons]
League game at Twerton Park: 2,287 (11.3.1987 v Walsall)
League game at Memorial Stadium: 4,123 (19.11.96 v Burnley)
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Post by roadman on Oct 18, 2024 9:40:01 GMT
Talking about in general, the fans all over the country. The ones who boycott will end up at Wembley if their respective teams makes it to the final. Papa Johns or whoever itās, get a showcase final on average with 50,000 fans plus, the point is, the boycott doesnāt work and then itās not adhered to. I ask you personally, would you boycott us if we made Wembley this season? Iāve supported us 41 years, Iāve seen us at Wembley on four occasions, 90, 95, 07, 15ā¦ā¦ā¦Iād feel really proud to miss us again wouldnāt I, I mean a day out seeing your team at one of the homes of football?!?! Absolutely boycott yes....the competition is not the Full Members Cup. It's a slave to the Premiership whims. I'll accept some fans of all clubs will attend at Wembley and pre final too, that's up to them and where they draw their line with their principles isn't it? But it still doesn't detract from the point.... it's a disgrace, and I won't help fund it. I still think if it's unacceptable to berate the fan from attending, it's just as unacceptable to berate the fan that chooses not to.. Hey I have full respect for you personally, fair play to you and you are man of your morals. Personally I think any Gashead would be mad to miss the opportunity of seeing us play at Wembley but thatās their choice. My issue comes with the boycotters who then go to Wembley when their side makes it there, surely you can see this? |
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Post by joefrankie on Oct 18, 2024 10:16:09 GMT
Talking about in general, the fans all over the country. The ones who boycott will end up at Wembley if their respective teams makes it to the final. Papa Johns or whoever itās, get a showcase final on average with 50,000 fans plus, the point is, the boycott doesnāt work and then itās not adhered to. I ask you personally, would you boycott us if we made Wembley this season? Iāve supported us 41 years, Iāve seen us at Wembley on four occasions, 90, 95, 07, 15ā¦ā¦ā¦Iād feel really proud to miss us again wouldnāt I, I mean a day out seeing your team at one of the homes of football?!?! Absolutely boycott yes....the competition is not the Full Members Cup. It's a slave to the Premiership whims. I'll accept some fans of all clubs will attend at Wembley and pre final too, that's up to them and where they draw their line with their principles isn't it? But it still doesn't detract from the point.... it's a disgrace, and I won't help fund it. I still think if it's unacceptable to berate the fan from attending, it's just as unacceptable to berate the fan that chooses not to.. I would absolutely boycott too. I've never been to one of these games and never would. They won't get a penny of my money until we got our competition back. It's important to have a spine. |
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