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Post by eric on Nov 1, 2024 7:27:58 GMT
If that’s true I’d have thought you would be more mindful of throwing abusive terms like “plastic” at fans who don’t follow your ideal definition of what it means to be a fan. What is your definition of a plastic fan? I don’t have one and I don’t see the need to create a definition of one which seems for no purpose other than to insult those who don’t fit in to an idea of what a Rovers fan should be. I love football and the more people who also love football the better as far as I’m concerned, great if they support a team and go to matches, even better if they choose Rovers. |
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 1, 2024 7:32:01 GMT
Hugo, I understand your situation. You got a lot of sh.it on here for being against JB. I can understand how that could get you down and lose your mojo. Great thing now is that he has gone and lots of his fanboys have also disappeared from the club. We've even got picnic tables in the fanzone now. Yeah, but I can't return now because I'm not a proper fan any more and I'm scared that the big boys will call me a plastic. 😞 Best way to become a "proper" fan again? Plastic surgery. |
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 1, 2024 7:36:27 GMT
What is your definition of a plastic fan? I don’t have one and I don’t see the need to create a definition of one which seems for no purpose other than to insult those who don’t fit in to an idea of what a Rovers fan should be. I work with Liverpool fans and Man U fans, and none of them have ever been north of the Almondsbury Interchange. I`d say, they were plastic fans. |
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Post by kampucheagas on Nov 1, 2024 7:56:51 GMT
I work in a primary school, the amount of Prem shirts I see drives me mad!! I ask them if they’ve ever been and they look blankly back at me. I could understand if there was an even tenuous family link but no, and this in a place with a Prem team! (Bournemouth)
Far too much media emphasis on only the top division, it really has become a business giant since I was a kid, I get much more out of watching lower league football these days, was up in Yorkshire last week and took my boy to Morecambe v Chesterfield. Great day out, proper fans, close to the action, although my boy got some funny looks as he insisted on wearing his Rovers top.
UTG
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Post by returnofthedust on Nov 1, 2024 8:07:51 GMT
I don’t have one and I don’t see the need to create a definition of one which seems for no purpose other than to insult those who don’t fit in to an idea of what a Rovers fan should be. I work with Liverpool fans and Man U fans, and none of them have ever been north of the Almondsbury Interchange. I`d say, they were plastic fans. That isn’t what gasify was talking about though. |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 1, 2024 8:17:08 GMT
I work in a primary school, the amount of Prem shirts I see drives me mad!! I ask them if they’ve ever been and they look blankly back at me. I could understand if there was an even tenuous family link but no, and this in a place with a Prem team! (Bournemouth) Far too much media emphasis on only the top division, it really has become a business giant since I was a kid, I get much more out of watching lower league football these days, was up in Yorkshire last week and took my boy to Morecambe v Chesterfield. Great day out, proper fans, close to the action, although my boy got some funny looks as he insisted on wearing his Rovers top. UTG It's business and many of us here will be hypocrites on this. Kids are wearing shirts from the big names in Europe, PSG shirts are everywhere as are Barca and Real. Those kids aren't really "fans" though and might wear a different top in a few years depending on who SKY and JD Sports want to promote! Even amongst adults, you can split many sports pubs down the middle when Man U play Liverpool, and I've always found it odd. They even call eachother Mancs and Scouse lol yet the closest they've been to OT or Anfeild is under their duvet. There will be people on this forum with kids and grandkids who will wear prem tops today. It's just the way things are. |
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Post by gasify on Nov 1, 2024 8:25:19 GMT
What is your definition of a plastic fan? I don’t have one and I don’t see the need to create a definition of one which seems for no purpose other than to insult those who don’t fit in to an idea of what a Rovers fan should be. I love football and the more people who also love football the better as far as I’m concerned, great if they support a team and go to matches, even better if they choose Rovers. If you don't have a definition of a plastic fan and you don't want to create one for no other purpose than to insult, how can you come to the conclusion that the term plastic is abusive? |
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Post by gashead79 on Nov 1, 2024 8:30:35 GMT
I don’t have one and I don’t see the need to create a definition of one which seems for no purpose other than to insult those who don’t fit in to an idea of what a Rovers fan should be. I love football and the more people who also love football the better as far as I’m concerned, great if they support a team and go to matches, even better if they choose Rovers. If you don't have a definition of a plastic fan and you don't want to create one for no other purpose than to insult, how can you come to the conclusion that the term plastic is abusive? If you were in southern Spain today, that hole would be full of water. Stop digging man! I doubt anybody is actually offended anyway 😆 |
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Post by gasify on Nov 1, 2024 8:44:43 GMT
If you don't have a definition of a plastic fan and you don't want to create one for no other purpose than to insult, how can you come to the conclusion that the term plastic is abusive? If you were in southern Spain today, that hole would be full of water. Stop digging man! I doubt anybody is actually offended anyway 😆 Found a water pump overnight. My hole is nice and dry now. |
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Post by roadman on Nov 1, 2024 8:44:56 GMT
Gasify, you seem a decent bloke and we are all Gasheads, you are digging people out for the word “Product”, just admit you shouldn’t have used the word plastic and I actually think you meant no harm as well!
Let’s move on, thanks for your considered reply to me above.
When I hear they are better than the tents, I just feel sad, we should never had tents anyway. £5 million on a prepack stand, stanchions in your eyeline, no concourse, it’s not long term is it. Blackpool did this all around the ground but they had no choice being in the Premiership but it looks so tired now. Wycombe, Oxford, Millwall, all look tired grounds now, we are just throwing good money away.
We showed the care and attention of the new stand by not even putting in planing permission. I think it’s hideous but because we are like the taken advantage wife, we think is brilliant like her being taken to a Torquay B&B but really promised Spain but she says to her friends “Well it was better than Minehead Butlins”.
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Post by eric on Nov 1, 2024 8:52:21 GMT
I don’t have one and I don’t see the need to create a definition of one which seems for no purpose other than to insult those who don’t fit in to an idea of what a Rovers fan should be. I love football and the more people who also love football the better as far as I’m concerned, great if they support a team and go to matches, even better if they choose Rovers. If you don't have a definition of a plastic fan and you don't want to create one for no other purpose than to insult, how can you come to the conclusion that the term plastic is abusive? Any normal person can see that it was completely obvious that you were using the term plastic to have a go at fellow Rovers fans who don’t measure up to your exacting standard. It’s quite easy to conclude that you meant it as an insult and bizarre to try and now claim otherwise. All very unnecessary imo - a bit like your dismissive and rude manner to those not comfortable with technology during the switch to e-tickets. |
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Post by gasify on Nov 1, 2024 8:55:19 GMT
Gasify, you seem a decent bloke and we are all Gasheads, you are digging people out for the word “Product”, just admit you shouldn’t have used the word plastic and I actually think you meant no harm as well! Let’s move on, thanks for your considered reply to me above. When I hear they are better than the tents, I just feel sad, we should never had tents anyway. £5 million on a prepack stand, stanchions in your eyeline, no concourse, it’s not long term is it. Blackpool did this all around the ground but they had no choice being in the Premiership but it looks so tired now. Wycombe, Oxford, Millwall, all look tired grounds now, we are just throwing good money away. We showed the care and attention of the new stand by not even putting in planing permission. I think it’s hideous but because we are like the taken advantage wife, we think is brilliant like her being taken to a Torquay B&B but really promised Spain but she says to her friends “Well it was better than Minehead Butlins”. There was a limitation for that stand that the likes of Blackpool didn't have. My view for a long time has been the only real option for ground redevelopment would be rotating the pitch 90 degrees. If we did that, we could have a stadium that we could all be proud of. I agree the way we went about building it and getting the planning permission documents wrong three times was disgraceful. I put the blame at the door of TG and thankfully he has gone now. Let's loop back to this at the end of the season, I think we will have our plans released by then. My gut feeling is that the owners want to add some value and sell the club at a profit. The stadium and the quarters fit into that hunch very nicely. I would be surprised if the new owners are still here in 5 years time. With the wife analogy, if the wife (or husband) isn't prepared to pay their share then yes we end up in a B&B in Torquay. If they remain faithful and true, see the relationship as equal partners, we both chip in financially then we are off to Costa Rica. |
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Post by gasify on Nov 1, 2024 9:00:47 GMT
If you don't have a definition of a plastic fan and you don't want to create one for no other purpose than to insult, how can you come to the conclusion that the term plastic is abusive? Any normal person can see that it was completely obvious that you were using the term plastic to have a go at fellow Rovers fans who don’t measure up to your exacting standard. It’s quite easy to conclude that you meant it as an insult and bizarre to try and now claim otherwise. All very unnecessary imo - a bit like your dismissive and rude manner to those not comfortable with technology during the switch to e-tickets. I was right over that though, it was just a reason for some to moan. Then one person actually lied to try and make a point which was pretty crazy behaviour. I maintain that if you are turning your back on Rovers due to the performance on the pitch, you are a plastic fan. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 1, 2024 9:27:34 GMT
Any normal person can see that it was completely obvious that you were using the term plastic to have a go at fellow Rovers fans who don’t measure up to your exacting standard. It’s quite easy to conclude that you meant it as an insult and bizarre to try and now claim otherwise. All very unnecessary imo - a bit like your dismissive and rude manner to those not comfortable with technology during the switch to e-tickets. I was right over that though, it was just a reason for some to moan. Then one person actually lied to try and make a point which was pretty crazy behaviour. I maintain that if you are turning your back on Rovers due to the performance on the pitch, you are a plastic fan. And there you go again. I don't need to have a definition of a plastic fan because I don't agree to the premise. And I don't need to agree to the premise to know that you are being deliberately insulting. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Nov 1, 2024 9:28:40 GMT
Gasify, you seem a decent bloke and we are all Gasheads, you are digging people out for the word “Product”, just admit you shouldn’t have used the word plastic and I actually think you meant no harm as well! Let’s move on, thanks for your considered reply to me above. When I hear they are better than the tents, I just feel sad, we should never had tents anyway. £5 million on a prepack stand, stanchions in your eyeline, no concourse, it’s not long term is it. Blackpool did this all around the ground but they had no choice being in the Premiership but it looks so tired now. Wycombe, Oxford, Millwall, all look tired grounds now, we are just throwing good money away. We showed the care and attention of the new stand by not even putting in planing permission. I think it’s hideous but because we are like the taken advantage wife, we think is brilliant like her being taken to a Torquay B&B but really promised Spain but she says to her friends “Well it was better than Minehead Butlins”. There was a limitation for that stand that the likes of Blackpool didn't have. My view for a long time has been the only real option for ground redevelopment would be rotating the pitch 90 degrees. If we did that, we could have a stadium that we could all be proud of. I agree the way we went about building it and getting the planning permission documents wrong three times was disgraceful. I put the blame at the door of TG and thankfully he has gone now. Let's loop back to this at the end of the season, I think we will have our plans released by then. My gut feeling is that the owners want to add some value and sell the club at a profit. The stadium and the quarters fit into that hunch very nicely. I would be surprised if the new owners are still here in 5 years time. With the wife analogy, if the wife (or husband) isn't prepared to pay their share then yes we end up in a B&B in Torquay. If they remain faithful and true, see the relationship as equal partners, we both chip in financially then we are off to Costa Rica. I’m not sure the wife would still be around when you say to her “Sorry love, we can’t go away then cause Rovers have Stockport at home” |
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Post by gasify on Nov 1, 2024 9:30:18 GMT
There was a limitation for that stand that the likes of Blackpool didn't have. My view for a long time has been the only real option for ground redevelopment would be rotating the pitch 90 degrees. If we did that, we could have a stadium that we could all be proud of. I agree the way we went about building it and getting the planning permission documents wrong three times was disgraceful. I put the blame at the door of TG and thankfully he has gone now. Let's loop back to this at the end of the season, I think we will have our plans released by then. My gut feeling is that the owners want to add some value and sell the club at a profit. The stadium and the quarters fit into that hunch very nicely. I would be surprised if the new owners are still here in 5 years time. With the wife analogy, if the wife (or husband) isn't prepared to pay their share then yes we end up in a B&B in Torquay. If they remain faithful and true, see the relationship as equal partners, we both chip in financially then we are off to Costa Rica. I’m not sure the wife would still be around when you say to her “Sorry love, we can’t go away then cause Rovers have Stockport at home” She's used to it. It's been 28 years. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Nov 1, 2024 9:32:22 GMT
I was right over that though, it was just a reason for some to moan. Then one person actually lied to try and make a point which was pretty crazy behaviour. I maintain that if you are turning your back on Rovers due to the performance on the pitch, you are a plastic fan. And there you go again. I don't need to have a definition of a plastic fan because I don't agree to the premise. And I don't need to agree to the premise to know that you are being deliberately insulting. Rovers before everything mate or you’re just a plastic fan. |
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Post by gasify on Nov 1, 2024 9:36:23 GMT
And there you go again. I don't need to have a definition of a plastic fan because I don't agree to the premise. And I don't need to agree to the premise to know that you are being deliberately insulting. "I'll only go and watch Rovers when they're winning, I'm a proper fan" |
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Post by gasify on Nov 1, 2024 9:41:35 GMT
And there you go again. I don't need to have a definition of a plastic fan because I don't agree to the premise. And I don't need to agree to the premise to know that you are being deliberately insulting. Rovers before everything mate or you’re just a plastic fan. I just don't find it acceptable that fans sing "We're Faithfull and tue". "We all made a promise, that we'll never part". Then at the point when the club and the players need us fans the most, they turn their backs as it's not an entertaining 'product' or "I don't want to see us lose". We could've been in the Championship with Coughlan, we'll never know. What we do know is the concept of "Product" is the main reason he left. The Rovers fans didn't appreciate him. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Nov 1, 2024 9:46:18 GMT
This thread has been totally spoilt by two who seem to spoil a lot of threads. Can't you just get a padded cell together and bore one another to death?
Mr T - Win tomorrow and 4 points from the next 2 league games and he should be safe.
UTFG 🏴☠️
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