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Post by supergas on Nov 17, 2023 8:00:47 GMT
We Would'nt have to build to International Stadium or National Stadium standards so you cost a lot less. No Question thro you are looking for Financing for approx 50M+ It’s probably partially funded by UEFA. Question is what are they going to do with it after the Euro’s, given it was once a derelict stadium. The biggest chunk seems to be from the Northern Irish government, and the next biggest chunk from the GAA as going forward it will primarily be used for Gaelic Football |
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Post by baggins on Nov 17, 2023 8:37:34 GMT
This. What does it not being my money have to do with it. I didn't buy a football club. If it going cost 10s Millions to build a stadium, then thats what its going to cost. The fans pay the club millions but over a longer period. I remember someone doing the maths that , when NH was in charge, the fans paid in circa 30 million over his tenure. The fans are the club How do we run up a £3mil debt every year then? |
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 17, 2023 10:22:11 GMT
Interesting to read about the 34500 capacity stadium proposed for the Euros in Northern Ireland "The new stadium was originally due to cost £76m, but it is now expected to run to at least £110m." puts the cost of a large purpose built stadium in perspective ..... I use Brentford's stadium as the most recent guide for building a brand new bespoke stadium. That cost £75m + the land. It doesn't even hold 20k people. So if we were to bulldozer the Mem and rebuild it in a similar vein I'd fully expect the tab to be between £60 and £70m quite easily. If we build a couple of the flat pack stands at each end of the ground but build a proper bespoke main east stand then we could have something resembling a decent stadium for somewhere in the region of £30m, with a capacity of 20k people which would easily see us through the next 25-30 years. Problem is paying for it or rather financing it to start with. This will all be part of the process and will take some months to release I would think. |
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Post by baggins on Nov 17, 2023 13:32:50 GMT
Interesting to read about the 34500 capacity stadium proposed for the Euros in Northern Ireland "The new stadium was originally due to cost £76m, but it is now expected to run to at least £110m." puts the cost of a large purpose built stadium in perspective ..... I use Brentford's stadium as the most recent guide for building a brand new bespoke stadium. That cost £75m + the land. It doesn't even hold 20k people. So if we were to bulldozer the Mem and rebuild it in a similar vein I'd fully expect the tab to be between £60 and £70m quite easily. If we build a couple of the flat pack stands at each end of the ground but build a proper bespoke main east stand then we could have something resembling a decent stadium for somewhere in the region of £30m, with a capacity of 20k people which would easily see us through the next 25-30 years. Problem is paying for it or rather financing it to start with. This will all be part of the process and will take some months to release I would think. £30 mil? Where's the ambition? |
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Post by gascloud on Nov 17, 2023 13:54:37 GMT
I use Brentford's stadium as the most recent guide for building a brand new bespoke stadium. That cost £75m + the land. It doesn't even hold 20k people. So if we were to bulldozer the Mem and rebuild it in a similar vein I'd fully expect the tab to be between £60 and £70m quite easily. If we build a couple of the flat pack stands at each end of the ground but build a proper bespoke main east stand then we could have something resembling a decent stadium for somewhere in the region of £30m, with a capacity of 20k people which would easily see us through the next 25-30 years. Problem is paying for it or rather financing it to start with. This will all be part of the process and will take some months to release I would think. £30 mil? Where's the ambition? The owners should have that down the back of the sofa, or why else would you buy a football club? |
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Post by baggins on Nov 17, 2023 13:59:02 GMT
£30 mil? Where's the ambition? The owners should have that down the back of the sofa, or why else would you buy a football club? Would be nice if they even did an interview or something. |
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Post by amgas on Nov 17, 2023 14:04:32 GMT
You mean like the interview before the last home game on Radio Bristol ?
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Post by gas2 on Nov 17, 2023 14:05:49 GMT
Lets all be honest and realistic it won't going to be a grand design whatever is built plus how are we going to make any money from non football revenues ?
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 17, 2023 14:26:46 GMT
Lets all be honest and realistic it won't going to be a grand design whatever is built plus how are we going to make any money from non football revenues ? Kevin McCloud covering its construction? 😀 |
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 17, 2023 14:34:45 GMT
Lets all be honest and realistic it won't going to be a grand design whatever is built plus how are we going to make any money from non football revenues ? Kevin McCloud covering its construction? 😀 Now that is funny  |
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Post by gaelgas on Nov 17, 2023 14:53:10 GMT
I get that, and it's a nice thought, but I think massive hurdles would stop us from getting anywhere near doing that at the Mem. 15-20,000 is fine unless we are regularly challenging for promotion to the Premiership, and the rare cup tie. 15,000 would be lower than every average attendance in the Championship bar one, Rotherham. Not sure under 20,000 at the very least is sustainable these days. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 17, 2023 15:10:56 GMT
15-20,000 is fine unless we are regularly challenging for promotion to the Premiership, and the rare cup tie. 15,000 would be lower than every average attendance in the Championship bar one, Rotherham. Not sure under 20,000 at the very least is sustainable these days. It will be when they charge £50 for a seat ! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 17, 2023 18:59:16 GMT
Interesting to read about the 34500 capacity stadium proposed for the Euros in Northern Ireland "The new stadium was originally due to cost £76m, but it is now expected to run to at least £110m." puts the cost of a large purpose built stadium in perspective ..... I use Brentford's stadium as the most recent guide for building a brand new bespoke stadium. That cost £75m + the land. It doesn't even hold 20k people. So if we were to bulldozer the Mem and rebuild it in a similar vein I'd fully expect the tab to be between £60 and £70m quite easily. If we build a couple of the flat pack stands at each end of the ground but build a proper bespoke main east stand then we could have something resembling a decent stadium for somewhere in the region of £30m, with a capacity of 20k people which would easily see us through the next 25-30 years. Problem is paying for it or rather financing it to start with. This will all be part of the process and will take some months to release I would think. Mr A has already clearly stated Stage 2 is developing the north & south side of the present East Stand, I can't understand why posters keep talking about redeveloping the whole East Stand, as what makes them think he's basically lying to us? Whilst we may all want the East Stand demolished and replaced with something decent that's clearly not the co-owners intentions. |
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Post by badengas on Nov 17, 2023 19:03:42 GMT
I've written to Nick Knowles pleading our case for DIY SOS.
Free local builders and materials, up in 9 days, TV coverage.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 17, 2023 19:24:54 GMT
I've written to Nick Knowles pleading our case for DIY SOS. Free local builders and materials, up in 9 days, TV coverage. In the late 80s, Challenge Anneka built a stadium for a non league team and I did wonder if we could have done that too. Oh the age of innocence. 🤗 |
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 17, 2023 19:57:48 GMT
15,000 would be lower than every average attendance in the Championship bar one, Rotherham. Not sure under 20,000 at the very least is sustainable these days. It will be when they charge £50 for a seat ! It’s going to be the hottest ticket in Town when we’re racing up the Championship. |
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Post by singupgas on Nov 17, 2023 20:04:50 GMT
I use Brentford's stadium as the most recent guide for building a brand new bespoke stadium. That cost £75m + the land. It doesn't even hold 20k people. So if we were to bulldozer the Mem and rebuild it in a similar vein I'd fully expect the tab to be between £60 and £70m quite easily. If we build a couple of the flat pack stands at each end of the ground but build a proper bespoke main east stand then we could have something resembling a decent stadium for somewhere in the region of £30m, with a capacity of 20k people which would easily see us through the next 25-30 years. Problem is paying for it or rather financing it to start with. This will all be part of the process and will take some months to release I would think. Mr A has already clearly stated Stage 2 is developing the north & south side of the present East Stand, I can't understand why posters keep talking about redeveloping the whole East Stand, as what makes them think he's basically lying to us? Whilst we may all want the East Stand demolished and replaced with something decent that's clearly not the co-owners intentions. Do you seriously think that adding to the East stand is a good idea. It doesn't seat many people anyway. I don't see the benefit in keeping the existing structure at all really. Plus the views are restricted. From where I sit, a few rows back towards the away end side of the stand, you cant see down and right due to back of people heads and the steps up to the seats. I imagine people further left have even worse of pitch view. If they built further left there is no way you could see the corner flag to the right. Another 2 reasons. The first, the claustrophobic bar under the stand which the entire east stand crams itself in. Not sure how it's even allowed for health and safety reasons. Secondly, the toilets that are flooded in wazz, also crowded, you have young kid standing side by side with old men... wouldn't be accepted anywhere else. |
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 17, 2023 20:30:39 GMT
Mr A has already clearly stated Stage 2 is developing the north & south side of the present East Stand, I can't understand why posters keep talking about redeveloping the whole East Stand, as what makes them think he's basically lying to us? Whilst we may all want the East Stand demolished and replaced with something decent that's clearly not the co-owners intentions. Do you seriously think that adding to the East stand is a good idea. It doesn't seat many people anyway. I don't see the benefit in keeping the existing structure at all really. Plus the views are restricted. From where I sit, a few rows back towards the away end side of the stand, you cant see down and right due to back of people heads and the steps up to the seats. I imagine people further left have even worse of pitch view. If they built further left there is no way you could see the corner flag to the right. Another 2 reasons. The first, the claustrophobic bar under the stand which the entire east stand crams itself in. Not sure how it's even allowed for health and safety reasons. Secondly, the toilets that are flooded in wazz, also crowded, you have young kid standing side by side with old men... wouldn't be accepted anywhere else. Maybe the Architects will come back with the same conclusion. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 17, 2023 20:46:21 GMT
Mr A has already clearly stated Stage 2 is developing the north & south side of the present East Stand, I can't understand why posters keep talking about redeveloping the whole East Stand, as what makes them think he's basically lying to us? Whilst we may all want the East Stand demolished and replaced with something decent that's clearly not the co-owners intentions. Do you seriously think that adding to the East stand is a good idea. It doesn't seat many people anyway. I don't see the benefit in keeping the existing structure at all really. Plus the views are restricted. From where I sit, a few rows back towards the away end side of the stand, you cant see down and right due to back of people heads and the steps up to the seats. I imagine people further left have even worse of pitch view. If they built further left there is no way you could see the corner flag to the right. Another 2 reasons. The first, the claustrophobic bar under the stand which the entire east stand crams itself in. Not sure how it's even allowed for health and safety reasons. Secondly, the toilets that are flooded in wazz, also crowded, you have young kid standing side by side with old men... wouldn't be accepted anywhere else. No? The East Stand was always poorly designed that's why I moved to the West Stand as soon as it opened, but I wasn't the one doing the interview nor the one who has to pay for the work? At the end of the day it's not what we want it's what the Board decide to do, my point is there's no point in saying why don't we do this or do that when the owner has made his intentions clear. You can only assume he's considered all the options before announcing what he intends doing. |
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 17, 2023 20:55:55 GMT
The East side at The Mem has enormous potential for non-matchday revenue; multi-functional spaces - hotel rooms, function rooms, gym etc. A key aspect being the fantastic views over Bristol for which people pay a premium. Planning permission has previously been given for a big structure on the East Side - or would it be a better return on investment to increase capacity at minimal cost and gamble signing players for a quick promotion?
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