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Post by oldie on Jun 10, 2023 15:19:46 GMT
Like all things, the truth emerges with time and analysis. It's not about being absolutely right or wrong, it's about doing the best you can with the information available at the time you made a decision. Inferring I was coerced because I chose, on balance, to accept the prevailing medical opinion is just silly and a little insulting. But in the end, for me, the need by one member to raise issues around Covid and how messages were/are managed on this forum after we had all moved on betrays another motive. My initial post was to highlight an out of date message which is not replicated on the other forums I looked at. Your continued personal digs at me are mildly amusing though. I chose to believe and behave in a way based on the information we were given also. Difference being I used my brain and exercised caution towards messaging that I was suspicious of from the outset.(i also did not panic-buy bog rolls or fuel) Once I noticed it, the rest was semi predictable. More than happy with criticism. I have no conscience or concerns surrounding your accusations, which from my perspective ARE based on fear, coercion, and ultimately cash. You can continue fishing me for bites if you wish, whilst acknowledging that your decisions were based on the information available at the time.(What you and all of us were fed, some chose to take it, others did not) Either way, the pinned message is out of date, same as the yellow 2m circles still randomly stuck on shop floors and people wearing masks.. Hope this has given you something to occupy your timeđ„± Goodness me Your apparent lack of self awareness is stunning. "I chose to believe and behave in a way based on the information we were given also. Difference being I used my brain and exercised caution towards messaging that I was suspicious of from the outset.(i also did not panic-buy bog rolls or fuel)" You used your brain, really. Are you suggesting that those of us who disagree did not, or could not? Were incapable of rational decision making? You suggest that just because we do not buy into your rhetoric? Really. Anyway, enough now, it's a boring roundabout. |
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Post by gashead79 on Jun 10, 2023 21:49:37 GMT
My initial post was to highlight an out of date message which is not replicated on the other forums I looked at. Your continued personal digs at me are mildly amusing though. I chose to believe and behave in a way based on the information we were given also. Difference being I used my brain and exercised caution towards messaging that I was suspicious of from the outset.(i also did not panic-buy bog rolls or fuel) Once I noticed it, the rest was semi predictable. More than happy with criticism. I have no conscience or concerns surrounding your accusations, which from my perspective ARE based on fear, coercion, and ultimately cash. You can continue fishing me for bites if you wish, whilst acknowledging that your decisions were based on the information available at the time.(What you and all of us were fed, some chose to take it, others did not) Either way, the pinned message is out of date, same as the yellow 2m circles still randomly stuck on shop floors and people wearing masks.. Hope this has given you something to occupy your timeđ„± Goodness me Your apparent lack of self awareness is stunning. "I chose to believe and behave in a way based on the information we were given also. Difference being I used my brain and exercised caution towards messaging that I was suspicious of from the outset.(i also did not panic-buy bog rolls or fuel)" You used your brain, really. Are you suggesting that those of us who disagree did not, or could not? Were incapable of rational decision making? You suggest that just because we do not buy into your rhetoric? Really. Anyway, enough now, it's a boring roundabout. You bored me months ago pal. Self awareness? On a chat board? Don't make me laugh! I'm not suggesting anything, I'm telling how I see it. We disagree but you are unable/unwilling to disagree politely. I'm ok with it. |
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Post by oldie on Jun 10, 2023 22:03:25 GMT
Goodness me Your apparent lack of self awareness is stunning. "I chose to believe and behave in a way based on the information we were given also. Difference being I used my brain and exercised caution towards messaging that I was suspicious of from the outset.(i also did not panic-buy bog rolls or fuel)" You used your brain, really. Are you suggesting that those of us who disagree did not, or could not? Were incapable of rational decision making? You suggest that just because we do not buy into your rhetoric? Really. Anyway, enough now, it's a boring roundabout. You bored me months ago pal. Self awareness? On a chat board? Don't make me laugh! I'm not suggesting anything, I'm telling how I see it. We disagree but you are unable/unwilling to disagree politely. I'm ok with it. Well done Be happy |
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Post by yattongas on Jun 10, 2023 22:51:21 GMT
Simon came across as ok bloke in my brief personal exchange with him âŠâŠ. But he did come on here slagging off posters to start đ
Never met the guy but my personal exchange with him was good âŠâŠ hard guy to work out but I still maintain his views on covid are warped . đ
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Post by gashead79 on Jun 11, 2023 7:21:44 GMT
Simon came across as ok bloke in my brief personal exchange with him âŠâŠ. But he  did come on here slagging off posters to start đ Never met the guy but my personal exchange with him was good âŠâŠ hard guy to work out but I still maintain his views on covid are warped . đ This makes sense. I'd argue the phrase "slagging off" and say I was critical of the content and participants. My views on covid will absolutely be warped to plenty of people. This is because I didn't and don't believe what the news and agencies force fed us. I'm sure that away from this board, most people are decent human beings with their own story. Categorising somebody based on a single topic on a footy chat board is lame and lazy. That's what happens in this place. |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 20, 2023 13:21:03 GMT
Developments in the House, for those who are interested or unaware of the discussions. hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2023-10-20/debates/6052991B-AEF8-4F28-A705-4FAE3FDCCD85/Covid-19VaccineDamagePaymentsBillThere are some damning statements within on how our own government has failed us as citizens. Also references to some of Pfizers wording. Along with accepted guilt on how coercion and blackmail were used as tools against the public. Quite a long read but anybody who has been involved in heated exchanges on here may want to take 15 minutes on it for deeper info. Of course, this stuff gets buried under Israel, Ukraine, and other hot topics that the msm are good at throwing at us. Enjoy. |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 29, 2023 10:33:30 GMT
Well done at last.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 31, 2023 14:43:33 GMT
Covid enquiry telling us all what we already knew ( apart from a few Tory supporting loons ) . Johnson and his cronies were absolutely bloody useless , callous and inept. Shame itâs not getting more media attention.
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 31, 2023 14:57:18 GMT
Covid enquiry telling us all what we already knew ( apart from a few Tory supporting loons ) . Johnson and his cronies were absolutely bloody useless , callous and inept. Shame itâs not getting more media attention. Methinks it would have been the same with any of the party's, politicians totally and unsurprisingly out of their depth dealing with a once in a century pandemic,no real surprise. Queue,the lawyers trying to to make money out of suing the government. |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 31, 2023 15:00:29 GMT
Covid enquiry telling us all what we already knew ( apart from a few Tory supporting loons ) . Johnson and his cronies were absolutely bloody useless , callous and inept. Shame itâs not getting more media attention. Methinks it would have been the same with any of the party's, politicians totally and unsurprisingly out of their depth dealing with a once in a century pandemic,no real surprise. Queue,the lawyers trying to to make money out of suing the government. Nope , not having that as thatâs almost as lame as âall politicians are uselessâ. This lot lied constantly, were bloody inept, ignored the science but claimed they were following it . Claimed to have got â all the big calls rightâ. They made a total hash of it and it cost thousands of lives. |
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 31, 2023 15:02:49 GMT
Methinks it would have been the same with any of the party's, politicians totally and unsurprisingly out of their depth dealing with a once in a century pandemic,no real surprise. Queue,the lawyers trying to to make money out of suing the government. Nope , not having that as thatâs almost as lame as âall politicians are uselessâ. This lot lied constantly, were bloody inept, ignored the science but claimed they were following it . Claimed to have got â all the big calls rightâ. They made a total hash of it and it cost thousands of lives. They are all the same from what I've experienced over the last 68 years,they all lie ,cheat a plague on all their houses!! |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 31, 2023 15:13:52 GMT
Nope , not having that as thatâs almost as lame as âall politicians are uselessâ. This lot lied constantly, were bloody inept, ignored the science but claimed they were following it . Claimed to have got â all the big calls rightâ. They made a total hash of it and it cost thousands of lives. They are all the same from what I've experienced over the last 68 years,they all lie ,cheat a plague on all their houses!! You donât look a day over 67 đź! |
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Post by trevorgas on Oct 31, 2023 15:31:07 GMT
They are all the same from what I've experienced over the last 68 years,they all lie ,cheat a plague on all their houses!! You donât look a day over 67 đź! Blimey you should see me on the golf course,creaking and groaning !!! |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 31, 2023 19:20:46 GMT
Covid enquiry telling us all what we already knew ( apart from a few Tory supporting loons ) . Johnson and his cronies were absolutely bloody useless , callous and inept. Shame itâs not getting more media attention. They all lied and made a mess of everything. The problem is that the enquiry is flawed and trying to investigate a carefully deployed scam anyway. No good will come from it. The manufacturers have banked our money now and will make plenty more from aftersales. They are the criminals, not the politicians. Only have to look at pfizers acquisitions to see the game played out. People at work have been testing positive for covid the last few weeks. Great work! |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 31, 2023 19:24:26 GMT
Methinks it would have been the same with any of the party's, politicians totally and unsurprisingly out of their depth dealing with a once in a century pandemic,no real surprise. Queue,the lawyers trying to to make money out of suing the government. Nope , not having that as thatâs almost as lame as âall politicians are uselessâ. This lot lied constantly, were bloody inept, ignored the science but claimed they were following it . Claimed to have got â all the big calls rightâ. They made a total hash of it and it cost thousands of lives. The wheeled out scientists ignored the science aswell mind. The noisy ones were silenced but are back with a bang now. Kids failed, elderly failed, average age of mortality 82(median), businesses failed, loans at record highs, poor countries couldn't get meds whilst wealthy ones threw out expired batches!! |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 31, 2023 19:29:33 GMT
Covid enquiry telling us all what we already knew ( apart from a few Tory supporting loons ) . Johnson and his cronies were absolutely bloody useless , callous and inept. Shame itâs not getting more media attention. They all lied and made a mess of everything. The problem is that the enquiry is flawed and trying to investigate a carefully deployed scam anyway. No good will come from it. The manufacturers have banked our money now and will make plenty more from aftersales. They are the criminals, not the politicians. Only have to look at pfizers acquisitions to see the game played out. People at work have been testing positive for covid the last few weeks. Great work! Are you on crack ? |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 31, 2023 19:34:29 GMT
They all lied and made a mess of everything. The problem is that the enquiry is flawed and trying to investigate a carefully deployed scam anyway. No good will come from it. The manufacturers have banked our money now and will make plenty more from aftersales. They are the criminals, not the politicians. Only have to look at pfizers acquisitions to see the game played out. People at work have been testing positive for covid the last few weeks. Great work! Are you on crack ? Not sure if that's a very decent question but...go for it. Why? |
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Post by yattongas on Oct 31, 2023 19:42:53 GMT
Not sure if that's a very decent question but...go for it. Why? No worries Simon . To be honest I canât be arsed to debate with you as I think you talk absolute nonsense and youâre not going to have your mind changed by anyone. utg đ |
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Post by gashead79 on Oct 31, 2023 19:53:57 GMT
Not sure if that's a very decent question but...go for it. Why? No worries Simon . To be honest I canât be arsed to debate with you as I think you talk absolute nonsense and youâre not going to have your mind changed by anyone. utg đ Good answer. My views on this have remained pretty consistent since early 2020, and I'm not interested in trying to help those who won't listen.đđŒ Take care of yourself. |
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Post by Gassy on Oct 31, 2023 20:00:58 GMT
Covid enquiry telling us all what we already knew ( apart from a few Tory supporting loons ) . Johnson and his cronies were absolutely bloody useless , callous and inept. Shame itâs not getting more media attention. They all lied and made a mess of everything. The problem is that the enquiry is flawed and trying to investigate a carefully deployed scam anyway. No good will come from it. The manufacturers have banked our money now and will make plenty more from aftersales. They are the criminals, not the politicians. Only have to look at pfizers acquisitions to see the game played out. People at work have been testing positive for covid the last few weeks. Great work! I've taken the misinformation out of your original post. I may have taken the pinned Covid thread down, but it all still stands. If you want to debate topics, be my guest. But no misinformation. Ta. |
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