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Post by kruger on May 8, 2022 18:46:24 GMT
We are undefeated in our last 10 games against Northampton and not to long ago we beat them 5-0 a home and 6-0 away, both games I was lucky enough to attend. No mention then by them that we only beat a weak understrength youthful Northampton team. None of their idiots were there to see yesterday's game where we all saw Scunthorpe players putting their bodies in the firing line and only beaten by a rampant superior footballing side. Of course they don't even have the courtesy to mention that we beat them twice this season. As for the idiot saying any team should have been able to beat them by 20-0 or so sums up that wally nicely. That bit did make me laugh 20 0 what's he on
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Post by kruger on May 8, 2022 18:47:56 GMT
It's all a load of Cobblers! Hope Darrell gets promoted with PV. have a read of Vales forum, seems alot of their fans don't like us, we are a horrible club apparently
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on May 8, 2022 18:54:37 GMT
I like D.C. but I’m not keen on port vale fans 💙
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 9, 2022 12:22:31 GMT
Take a look at what this belter has written to the EFL;
I'm writing to you as a Northampton Town fan. I've purposefully waited a couple of days before contacting you as I didn't want this to be coloured by the range of emotions I was feeling after the unusual events we saw in League 2 on Saturday, but I have now sufficiently calmed down to articulate this in a proper manner.
I often get very tired of hearing my children wail about things being unfair and have little time for it. Indeed, only last week I was playing catch with my little girl when she threw the ball about a meter over my head.
"That wasn't fair!" I exclaimed, to which she responded, “Life’s not fair, daddy.”
She’s only 4, so I’ve a pretty good idea that she’s picked that phrase up from me!
Even so, what happened on Saturday…. just wasn’t fair.
I’ve no complaints about Bristol Rovers, they simply did what they needed to do to achieve promotion, however I do take exception to the side fielded by Sc***horpe.
It included:
- 7 teenagers, amongst them…
- A 2nd year scholar making his debut
- An 18-year-old captain
- A 17-year-old goalkeeper making his second ever start.
This is taken from section 5 of the EFL Rules and Regulations pertaining to Fixtures:
24 Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches
24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit.
Guidance
From the fourth Thursday in March, any team sheet for a League game should include at least 10 outfield players who featured on the team sheet for the League game before.
I appreciate that Sc***horpe fielded a similar (but slightly stronger) team in the previous match against Hartlepool, but that game was a proverbial “dead rubber”; no one minds blooding youngsters in those matches, in fact it’s nice to see, but in games that have a material impact on the outcome of the league, surely there should an ethical imperative to field a full team? Barrow did against us, so why shouldn’t Sc***horpe? Their failure to do so has undermined the integrity of the competition.
I genuinely don’t mind losing. I don’t even mind losing out on a promotion spot, but when that loss isn’t inflicted on a level playing field it is very hard to take - I think it’s fair to say it's highly unlikely Bristol Rovers would have won by a seven-goal margin against ANY other club in the division (if they fielded a full team).
On a second point, there are rumours circulating that Sc***horpe’s sale of Ryan Loft to Bristol Rovers in January included a clause that stated Sc***horpe would receive further payment should Bristol Rovers achieve promotion to League 1. I’ve no idea if these rumours are true but I’ve seen them mentioned by several sources, including from a reputable local journalist.
If this is true, it may or may not have been a factor in the outcome of Saturday’s match, but surely clauses such as this should not be allowed when a transfer involves two clubs playing at the same level, where either team may be able to influence whether that clause is triggered?
In either case, what is done is done and Northampton Town now head into the playoffs. I’m certainly not writing this in the expectation of anything changing in terms of league position, however it would be nice to see:
a) Ideally some form of sanction against Sc***horpe United
b) An acknowledgement from the EFL that events this weekend were not in the spirit of the game, even if they weren’t an outright breach of the rules.
c) A review of the existing rules and regulations to see if they can be tightened up, both in regard to fielding weakened teams and in how transfers are allowed to be structured between clubs at the same level.
As I say, I appreciate nothing can be done about what has already happened, but measures can be put in place that ensure this sort of farcical situation doesn’t affect other clubs in the future as it seriously undermines the integrity of the sport we all love.
Kind Regards,
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Post by SleepyGas on May 9, 2022 13:00:03 GMT
Take a look at what this belter has written to the EFL; I'm writing to you as a Northampton Town fan. I've purposefully waited a couple of days before contacting you as I didn't want this to be coloured by the range of emotions I was feeling after the unusual events we saw in League 2 on Saturday, but I have now sufficiently calmed down to articulate this in a proper manner. I often get very tired of hearing my children wail about things being unfair and have little time for it. Indeed, only last week I was playing catch with my little girl when she threw the ball about a meter over my head. "That wasn't fair!" I exclaimed, to which she responded, “Life’s not fair, daddy.” She’s only 4, so I’ve a pretty good idea that she’s picked that phrase up from me! Even so, what happened on Saturday…. just wasn’t fair. I’ve no complaints about Bristol Rovers, they simply did what they needed to do to achieve promotion, however I do take exception to the side fielded by Sc***horpe. It included: - 7 teenagers, amongst them… - A 2nd year scholar making his debut - An 18-year-old captain - A 17-year-old goalkeeper making his second ever start. This is taken from section 5 of the EFL Rules and Regulations pertaining to Fixtures: 24 Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. Guidance From the fourth Thursday in March, any team sheet for a League game should include at least 10 outfield players who featured on the team sheet for the League game before. I appreciate that Sc***horpe fielded a similar (but slightly stronger) team in the previous match against Hartlepool, but that game was a proverbial “dead rubber”; no one minds blooding youngsters in those matches, in fact it’s nice to see, but in games that have a material impact on the outcome of the league, surely there should an ethical imperative to field a full team? Barrow did against us, so why shouldn’t Sc***horpe? Their failure to do so has undermined the integrity of the competition. I genuinely don’t mind losing. I don’t even mind losing out on a promotion spot, but when that loss isn’t inflicted on a level playing field it is very hard to take - I think it’s fair to say it's highly unlikely Bristol Rovers would have won by a seven-goal margin against ANY other club in the division (if they fielded a full team). On a second point, there are rumours circulating that Sc***horpe’s sale of Ryan Loft to Bristol Rovers in January included a clause that stated Sc***horpe would receive further payment should Bristol Rovers achieve promotion to League 1. I’ve no idea if these rumours are true but I’ve seen them mentioned by several sources, including from a reputable local journalist. If this is true, it may or may not have been a factor in the outcome of Saturday’s match, but surely clauses such as this should not be allowed when a transfer involves two clubs playing at the same level, where either team may be able to influence whether that clause is triggered? In either case, what is done is done and Northampton Town now head into the playoffs. I’m certainly not writing this in the expectation of anything changing in terms of league position, however it would be nice to see: a) Ideally some form of sanction against Sc***horpe United b) An acknowledgement from the EFL that events this weekend were not in the spirit of the game, even if they weren’t an outright breach of the rules. c) A review of the existing rules and regulations to see if they can be tightened up, both in regard to fielding weakened teams and in how transfers are allowed to be structured between clubs at the same level. As I say, I appreciate nothing can be done about what has already happened, but measures can be put in place that ensure this sort of farcical situation doesn’t affect other clubs in the future as it seriously undermines the integrity of the sport we all love. Kind Regards, I'm a big fan of the swearword filter kicking in on sCUNThorpe there
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Post by madgas on May 9, 2022 13:09:22 GMT
In fairness that fan isn't after our blood.
Suggest there would be many similar gasheads.
Ultimately- us winning 7 nil was very much on however you slice it.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 9, 2022 13:14:10 GMT
In fairness that fan isn't after our blood. Suggest there would be many similar gasheads. Ultimately- us winning 7 nil was very much on however you slice it. Of course, nothing we could have done we just beat what was in front of us. I wonder how many of their fans would have complained had we scored less than 7. Probably none. Scunny have been poor all season and their more senior players have been taking the pi*s apparently. Maybe the cobblers should be questioning why they only drew 0-0 with them in feb?
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Post by kentgas on May 9, 2022 13:17:02 GMT
So in a nutshell, no rules were broken.
Thank you and goodnight.
PS good luck to Mansfield in the playoffs.
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Post by GasAttacK on May 9, 2022 13:18:50 GMT
To be fair Scunthorpe had been so poor all season and took a few hidings with a so-called full-strength side.
Hill had started fielding youngsters in their previous games and they had drawn 2 and lost by 1 goal at Bradford.
Who's to say he didn't think the youngsters were equally as good or better than the players they were replacing? They'd done okay prior to Saturday.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 9, 2022 13:19:49 GMT
So in a nutshell, no rules were broken. Thank you and goodnight. PS good luck to Mansfield in the playoffs. Just need Sutton complaining now that Mansfield played Scunthorpes kids when they beat them 4-0 last month, 3 points that cost them a play off spot
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Post by rossinio on May 9, 2022 13:23:40 GMT
To be fair didn’t we try to clutch at straws and appeal about Wycombe when we were relegated in 2014?
Speaking of that ‘orrible little club - i look forward to spanking them next season!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 13:31:05 GMT
Doesn't make sense to me. If you are a supporter of any team and a football fan, you have to be able to grasp that if you are already down and will lose most of the players that let your club down, there is no choice but to play the kids and the genuine older heads to give you a chance of coming back up.
Its easy to say as the Gas are up, but its just the way it is.
Someone said on here somewhere, look at how not one player did any stupid celebration's but picked the ball out of the net immediately to re start the game asap.
There are few teams in any league that would be able to hold back that desire to score
File it Northampton fans, and take a leaf out of Scunthorpe's book and concentrate on building a team for the next game and the future where ever that happens to be.
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Post by rusho'gas on May 9, 2022 13:35:42 GMT
The world is in balance, Wycombe had to win by 7 and did. Rovers went down.
Higgs bitched about it to the FA and nowt happened......
Rovers did Sc*nthorpe 7 - 0 and went up
The world is in balance.
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Post by yattongas on May 9, 2022 14:08:37 GMT
Scunthorpe have behaved atrociously and I think a fit & proper punishment would be to kick them out of the football league for at least one season .
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Post by bidefordgas on May 9, 2022 15:33:20 GMT
The world is in balance, Wycombe had to win by 7 and did. Rovers went down. Higgs bitched about it to the FA and nowt happened...... Rovers did Sc*nthorpe 7 - 0 and went up The world is in balance. No they didn't. They won at Torquay 3-0 on the final day to condemn us both to non league.
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Post by bidefordgas on May 9, 2022 15:39:20 GMT
Keith Hill is proper football man and I am confident that he played what he considered to be his best team available to him. No doubt several of the senior pros who contributed to Scunthorpes disastrous season will be on their bikes shortly.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 9, 2022 15:51:59 GMT
Keith Hill is proper football man and I am confident that he played what he considered to be his best team available to him. No doubt several of the senior pros who contributed to Scunthorpes disastrous season will be on their bikes shortly. He has already said that several senior players were acting unprofessionally. Maybe shades of when Barton came in for us last season and needs to clear the deadwood and install some sound foundations.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 9, 2022 16:45:30 GMT
and another "OK I can't resist, let's really push this transfer thing. It's January, Rovers are on a great run and they want this lad from SLady Gardenhorpe. They know the fixture list.... Whilst promotion clauses are not unheard of or uncommon even, it's a very smart move to include a clause which adds a (rumoured 50k) bonus, especially to an undisclosed initial fee which could have been 50p for all we know. Having that in your back pocket would be great, especially as SLady Gardenhorpe were already virtually relegated and based on the firesale of players, potless to boot. Of course, we don't know the fee, the clause or the bonus - it's all "undisclosed" but it's certainly enough, under the circumstances and crazy events of Saturday, to get the mind ticking..... Smiley" Let it lie lads....
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Post by dudelebowski on May 9, 2022 16:49:18 GMT
and another "OK I can't resist, let's really push this transfer thing. It's January, Rovers are on a great run and they want this lad from SLady Gardenhorpe. They know the fixture list.... Whilst promotion clauses are not unheard of or uncommon even, it's a very smart move to include a clause which adds a (rumoured 50k) bonus, especially to an undisclosed initial fee which could have been 50p for all we know. Having that in your back pocket would be great, especially as SLady Gardenhorpe were already virtually relegated and based on the firesale of players, potless to boot. Of course, we don't know the fee, the clause or the bonus - it's all "undisclosed" but it's certainly enough, under the circumstances and crazy events of Saturday, to get the mind ticking..... Smiley" Let it lie lads.... That great run, the day we signed Lofty (4th Jan) we were 18th in the league table 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by clampdown on May 9, 2022 16:49:28 GMT
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