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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 30, 2022 8:23:20 GMT
Anyone seen the latest this morning about his girlfriend accusing him of rape and domestic violence.
Looks like his career is finished.
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Post by RD on Jan 30, 2022 11:11:40 GMT
Yep.... Life finished pretty much. 100% done in pro football. In all honesty he's probably going to be (deservedly) going to prison.
Scum
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jan 30, 2022 13:12:45 GMT
He’s finished
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Post by Gassy on Jan 30, 2022 17:11:02 GMT
Presuming he’s guilty - I really hope he gets made an example of.
Either way he won’t be done in football. At top level/England he is, but footballers have done worse and continued in the game.
Luke McCormick was drunk driving and killed 2 children in a crash, was sentenced 7 years and still returned to EFL football.
Not sure what the punishment for domestic abuse, but I’m pretty certain a few few championship clubs and higher would still take him on, sadly.
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Post by peterparker on Jan 30, 2022 17:33:32 GMT
Presuming he’s guilty - I really hope he gets made an example of. Either way he won’t be done in football. At top level/England he is, but footballers have done worse and continued in the game. Luke McCormick was drunk driving and killed 2 children in a crash, was sentenced 7 years and still returned to EFL football. Not sure what the punishment for domestic abuse, but I’m pretty certain a few few championship clubs and higher would still take him on, sadly. I mean, this doesnt look good and is a bit more than just an accusation with the images being shared. United have suspended him until whenever, but on the face of it, seems hard to see him come back at the top level, but as you say there is always someone that will take a punt on someone no matter what Cant imagine many fans of any clubs would be happy yo be linked with him now though even if he is innocent |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 30, 2022 17:48:16 GMT
Presuming he’s guilty - I really hope he gets made an example of. Either way he won’t be done in football. At top level/England he is, but footballers have done worse and continued in the game. Luke McCormick was drunk driving and killed 2 children in a crash, was sentenced 7 years and still returned to EFL football. Not sure what the punishment for domestic abuse, but I’m pretty certain a few few championship clubs and higher would still take him on, sadly. I mean, this doesnt look good and is a bit more than just an accusation with the images being shared. United have suspended him until whenever, but on the face of it, seems hard to see him come back at the top level, but as you say there is always someone that will take a punt on someone no matter what Cant imagine many fans of any clubs would be happy yo be linked with him now though even if he is innocent Plenty of our fans don't seem overly bothered by this sort of thing so he will probably carry on at somewhere like Everton. EDIT. Having heard the Audio, I can't imagine anyone in their right mind signing him. His career is over. |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jan 30, 2022 18:04:50 GMT
It's not just the abuse though is it. I think if it was just violence then as much as I disagree he would be taken on by another club. I'd like to think no club will take a player on who has potentially raped someone in this day and age.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 30, 2022 18:20:00 GMT
It's not just the abuse though is it. I think if it was just violence then as much as I disagree he would be taken on by another club. I'd like to think no club will take a player on who has potentially raped someone in this day and age. |
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Post by peterparker on Jan 30, 2022 19:56:55 GMT
Heard the audio now.
Urgh.Dam horrible
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Post by stuart1974 on Jan 30, 2022 20:17:47 GMT
Heard the audio now. Urgh.Dam horrible Not sure it's appropriate to post the tweet, if anyone is interested Victoria Derbyshire has linked it on her Twitter account and also transcribed the audio. Not good. She also has linked pictures so please be aware. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 30, 2022 20:51:54 GMT
Just seen the pics and heard the Audio.
That's pretty bad.
I can't see any way back for him, and rightly so.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 30, 2022 21:26:07 GMT
Has anyone seen the girl's father's statement. Something doesn't quite add up here. I don't know about others on here but if this was my daughter I would be a lot more watered off about it than he sounds!
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Post by Gassy on Jan 30, 2022 21:55:34 GMT
Has anyone seen the girl's father's statement. Something doesn't quite add up here. I don't know about others on here but if this was my daughter I would be a lot more P?!sed off about it than he sounds! Yeah bit of a weird reaction. Just heard the audio and it’s pretty awful. Still think he will be back in football eventually though, only 20 - he’ll serve his time and no doubt someone will take the gamble eventually. In the interest of debate only: what are peoples thoughts on that? If you’ve served what the law seems to be justice, should you have a second chance to make a career out of what is already a short career in playing football? Where do we draw the line in what jobs are/aren’t acceptable? This goes for more than abuse/rape btw - but anyone who’s served their time. Personally I’d not want him playing football at professional level again as I don’t think he should be a role model to younger generation. But how would we define that? |
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Post by Gassy on Jan 30, 2022 22:09:47 GMT
Also, in case you’re reading IceGas - this is absolute proof that the BBC doesn’t have a racial agenda.
A white woman is abused by a black/mixed raced man and it’s everywhere.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 31, 2022 0:38:13 GMT
Has anyone seen the girl's father's statement. Something doesn't quite add up here. I don't know about others on here but if this was my daughter I would be a lot more P?!sed off about it than he sounds! If guilty he deserves all that is coming to him!! But so many in Twitter hanger jumped to conclusions already. If her phone was hacked anything could have happened. Only get a small part of the clip. Could have been role play, for all we know. I'm sure all will come out eventually, whether it's good or bad. Would like to hear the full clip, to see what actually happened. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 31, 2022 6:20:12 GMT
Has anyone seen the girl's father's statement. Something doesn't quite add up here. I don't know about others on here but if this was my daughter I would be a lot more P?!sed off about it than he sounds! If guilty he deserves all that is coming to him!! But so many in Twitter hanger jumped to conclusions already. If her phone was hacked anything could have happened. Only get a small part of the clip. Could have been role play, for all we know. I'm sure all will come out eventually, whether it's good or bad. Would like to hear the full clip, to see what actually happened. Role play. And makeup bruises. |
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Post by peterparker on Jan 31, 2022 6:52:22 GMT
Statement is a bit weird, but then its not exactly uncommon for abused women to recant, blame themselves etc.
Maybe Miss Robson is regretting it and this making the hacking up. Who knows.
Something has happened. The pics are there and the audio seems pretty legit and not 'role play'
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 31, 2022 10:11:44 GMT
Statement is a bit weird, but then its not exactly uncommon for abused women to recant, blame themselves etc. Maybe Miss Robson is regretting it and this making the hacking up. Who knows. Something has happened. The pics are there and the audio seems pretty legit and not 'role play' It's a short clip, so how would you know it's not role play?? Never used a safe word before?? Not saying that's what happened. If it's as it sounded, then he deserves what he gets. Just saying there is more than one option. That clip does not 100% say he's guilty. The full clip might, as a lot was recorded, before that part. Did she know what was going to happen?? Cause she was recording ages before, if she did and he did do it. That suggests it happened before. Need to hear the rest of the clip though. |
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Post by peterparker on Jan 31, 2022 10:37:18 GMT
Statement is a bit weird, but then its not exactly uncommon for abused women to recant, blame themselves etc. Maybe Miss Robson is regretting it and this making the hacking up. Who knows. Something has happened. The pics are there and the audio seems pretty legit and not 'role play' It's a short clip, so how would you know it's not role play?? Never used a safe word before?? Not saying that's what happened. If it's as it sounded, then he deserves what he gets. Just saying there is more than one option. That clip does not 100% say he's guilty. The full clip might, as a lot was recorded, before that part. Did she know what was going to happen?? Cause she was recording ages before, if she did and he did do it. That suggests it happened before. Need to hear the rest of the clip though. i mean if all there was was an audio clip, the role play argument might be more valid. When you couple it with the photo's it don't look good. Of course it could all have been role play that got a bit out of hand. Didn't Miss Robson post this stuff herself? so saying your phone was hacked whilst not impossible seems less likely. Someone could have hacked her and posted the stuff under her accounts, but surely that would have to be someone who knew her. We will have to see what the facts are and what an investigation brings, but to me it looks like a scared young women who has posted something and has 'regretted' it like many domestic abuse victims |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 31, 2022 11:09:00 GMT
It's a short clip, so how would you know it's not role play?? Never used a safe word before?? Not saying that's what happened. If it's as it sounded, then he deserves what he gets. Just saying there is more than one option. That clip does not 100% say he's guilty. The full clip might, as a lot was recorded, before that part. Did she know what was going to happen?? Cause she was recording ages before, if she did and he did do it. That suggests it happened before. Need to hear the rest of the clip though. i mean if all there was was an audio clip, the role play argument might be more valid. When you couple it with the photo's it don't look good. Of course it could all have been role play that got a bit out of hand. Didn't Miss Robson post this stuff herself? so saying your phone was hacked whilst not impossible seems less likely. Someone could have hacked her and posted the stuff under her accounts, but surely that would have to be someone who knew her. We will have to see what the facts are and what an investigation brings, but to me it looks like a scared young women who has posted something and has 'regretted' it like many domestic abuse victims Not hard for experts to hack accounts, a lot of people upload photos and videos to online storage. Luckily for us, no one will want to hack ours! But it wouldn't have to be someone they knew. For her sake, I hope they are fake. The truth will come out either way, as they will want the full recordings and want to check the photos etc. He's likely to be guilty, it does not look good. Just saying I think people should wait until it's been confirmed, it is how it seems, before abusing him over the internet. |
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