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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 24, 2024 0:04:26 GMT
Two years then.
For what? 100s of 1000s killed or maimed, destruction of cities, divisions in the world. Millions fleeing.
Russia losing aircraft today including a surveillance plane reducing their fleet down to 4. Still more than we've got or will have.
Russian defector shot and killed in Spain.
Also, a blogger who reported Russia losing 16,000 taking Avdiivka has been found dead. Suicide apparently. 🤔
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Post by trevorgas on Feb 24, 2024 14:26:41 GMT
Two years then. For what? 100s of 1000s killed or maimed, destruction of cities, divisions in the world. Millions fleeing. Russia losing aircraft today including a surveillance plane reducing their fleet down to 4. Still more than we've got or will have. Russian defector shot and killed in Spain. Also, a blogger who reported Russia losing 16,000 taking Avdiivka has been found dead. Suicide apparently. 🤔 It's amazing how many critics of Putin home and abroad end up dead one way or another,must be 100%,if course purely coincidental🙄🙄 |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 24, 2024 19:55:58 GMT
Two years then. For what? 100s of 1000s killed or maimed, destruction of cities, divisions in the world. Millions fleeing. Russia losing aircraft today including a surveillance plane reducing their fleet down to 4. Still more than we've got or will have. Russian defector shot and killed in Spain. Also, a blogger who reported Russia losing 16,000 taking Avdiivka has been found dead. Suicide apparently. 🤔 It's amazing how many critics of Putin home and abroad end up dead one way or another,must be 100%,if course purely coincidental🙄🙄 Yes of course. I was reading about the release of Navalny's body. Makes me feel sick. Can't wait until Putin is seen off. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 24, 2024 23:23:25 GMT
Two years then. For what? 100s of 1000s killed or maimed, destruction of cities, divisions in the world. Millions fleeing. Russia losing aircraft today including a surveillance plane reducing their fleet down to 4. Still more than we've got or will have. Russian defector shot and killed in Spain. Also, a blogger who reported Russia losing 16,000 taking Avdiivka has been found dead. Suicide apparently. 🤔 It's amazing how many critics of Putin home and abroad end up dead one way or another,must be 100%,if course purely coincidental🙄🙄 14 or more in the UK alone, and until the Skripals in Salisbury, swept under the carpet. Poland's UN ambassador makes a great rebuttal. Worth a listen. |
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Post by supergas on Feb 25, 2024 11:03:00 GMT
It's amazing how many critics of Putin home and abroad end up dead one way or another,must be 100%,if course purely coincidental🙄🙄 Yes of course. I was reading about the release of Navalny's body. Makes me feel sick. Can't wait until Putin is seen off. ...what makes you think whoever wins the power-struggle to replace him will be any better...? |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 25, 2024 11:24:49 GMT
Yes of course. I was reading about the release of Navalny's body. Makes me feel sick. Can't wait until Putin is seen off. ...what makes you think whoever wins the power-struggle to replace him will be any better...? Because it can't get a lot worse. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 25, 2024 12:04:14 GMT
...what makes you think whoever wins the power-struggle to replace him will be any better...? Because it can't get a lot worse. Sadly it can. Worse case is the implosion of Russia itself, however unlikely. Putin has set up like the mafia, once he goes, if there is no obvious successor then it can get pretty bad. |
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Post by yattongas on Feb 25, 2024 12:09:09 GMT
A lot of the Tory party find themselves in an awkward position, Pro Trumpers but he will most likely abandon Ukraine and leave NATO but also claiming to be pro Ukraine themselves.
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 25, 2024 13:22:06 GMT
A lot of the Tory party find themselves in an awkward position, Pro Trumpers but he will most likely abandon Ukraine and leave NATO but also claiming to be pro Ukraine themselves. Pretty much. 😶 "Asked if now is perhaps the moment to negotiate, Mr Rhodes says Vladimir Putin "does not have the incentive to make a deal before an election". "If he thinks there's a chance of Donald Trump getting back in the White House, why wouldn't he want to wait and see if he could have that advantage?" " news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-war-latest-putin-sky-news-blog-live-12541713?postid=7285902#liveblog-body |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 25, 2024 18:32:03 GMT
"Mr Zelenskyy said a peace plan will be prepared with Ukraine's partners at a summit in Switzerland this spring and it will be handed over to Russia; He said he would not negotiate with Vladimir Putin, saying: "Can you talk to a deaf man?"; He revealed 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed in the war so far but refused to give details on the number that have been wounded; Turning to the help provided to Ukraine by the UK, he said his troops have used "a lot" of Storm Shadow missiles; Asked if he would pick up if the Russian president called him, Mr Zelenskyy mocked Mr Putin saying: "He doesn't have a mobile. How will he call me? I don't use a telegraph from 1917"; He also said Ukraine has a "clear plan" for a new offensive and Russia was preparing a counteroffensive for the start of summer." news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-war-latest-putin-sky-news-blog-live-12541713?postid=7288574#liveblog-body |
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Post by stuart1974 on Feb 26, 2024 16:47:08 GMT
Hungary ratifies Swedish membership, at last.
Hopefully Ukraine in time as part of a peace deal. Not that Vlad is interested, it seems.
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 2, 2024 10:00:44 GMT
Rebranding as Russia Africa Corps? " "What the Russians have provided is a strike force, with helicopters with advanced capabilities and a lot of firepower," says Dr Watling. "They are using pretty traditional Soviet anti-partisan methods. You see fighters who were executed, as well as civilians targeted for enabling or being associated with fighters." There have been multiple claims that Wagner forces carried out human rights abuses on the African continent, as well as in Ukraine and Syria, where Prigozhin's organisation previously held a commanding presence. One of the most well-documented incidents took place in the central Malian town of Moura where, according to a UN report, at least 500 people are believed to have been summarily executed by Malian troops and "armed white men", who eyewitnesses described as speaking an "unknown language". In exchange for considerable, if brutal, security assistance, Wagner required something in return. Mali, like many African nations, is rich in natural resources - from timber and gold to uranium and lithium. Some are simply valuable, while others have strategic importance as well. According to Dr Watling, Wagner was operating in a well-established tradition: "There is a standard Russian modus operandi, which is that you cover the operational costs with parallel business activity. In Africa, that is primarily through mining concessions." In every country in which it operates, Wagner was reported to have secured valuable natural resources using these to not only cover costs, but also extract significant revenue. Russia has extracted $2.5bn (£2bn) worth of gold from Africa in the past two years, which is likely to have helped fund its war in Ukraine, according to the Blood Gold Report." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-68322230 |
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 2, 2024 11:49:31 GMT
Rebranding as Russia Africa Corps? " "What the Russians have provided is a strike force, with helicopters with advanced capabilities and a lot of firepower," says Dr Watling. "They are using pretty traditional Soviet anti-partisan methods. You see fighters who were executed, as well as civilians targeted for enabling or being associated with fighters." There have been multiple claims that Wagner forces carried out human rights abuses on the African continent, as well as in Ukraine and Syria, where Prigozhin's organisation previously held a commanding presence. One of the most well-documented incidents took place in the central Malian town of Moura where, according to a UN report, at least 500 people are believed to have been summarily executed by Malian troops and "armed white men", who eyewitnesses described as speaking an "unknown language". In exchange for considerable, if brutal, security assistance, Wagner required something in return. Mali, like many African nations, is rich in natural resources - from timber and gold to uranium and lithium. Some are simply valuable, while others have strategic importance as well. According to Dr Watling, Wagner was operating in a well-established tradition: "There is a standard Russian modus operandi, which is that you cover the operational costs with parallel business activity. In Africa, that is primarily through mining concessions." In every country in which it operates, Wagner was reported to have secured valuable natural resources using these to not only cover costs, but also extract significant revenue. Russia has extracted $2.5bn (£2bn) worth of gold from Africa in the past two years, which is likely to have helped fund its war in Ukraine, according to the Blood Gold Report." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-68322230I read that as well Stuart,Africa still be exploited by colonialists!! This lot are brutal in the extreme ,the West will continue to turn a blind eye as our leaders are incapable of joining the dots. |
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Post by yattongas on Mar 2, 2024 11:53:23 GMT
Interesting that some many people came out for Alexei Navanly’s funeral despite the obvious risks
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 2, 2024 11:53:24 GMT
Rebranding as Russia Africa Corps? " "What the Russians have provided is a strike force, with helicopters with advanced capabilities and a lot of firepower," says Dr Watling. "They are using pretty traditional Soviet anti-partisan methods. You see fighters who were executed, as well as civilians targeted for enabling or being associated with fighters." There have been multiple claims that Wagner forces carried out human rights abuses on the African continent, as well as in Ukraine and Syria, where Prigozhin's organisation previously held a commanding presence. One of the most well-documented incidents took place in the central Malian town of Moura where, according to a UN report, at least 500 people are believed to have been summarily executed by Malian troops and "armed white men", who eyewitnesses described as speaking an "unknown language". In exchange for considerable, if brutal, security assistance, Wagner required something in return. Mali, like many African nations, is rich in natural resources - from timber and gold to uranium and lithium. Some are simply valuable, while others have strategic importance as well. According to Dr Watling, Wagner was operating in a well-established tradition: "There is a standard Russian modus operandi, which is that you cover the operational costs with parallel business activity. In Africa, that is primarily through mining concessions." In every country in which it operates, Wagner was reported to have secured valuable natural resources using these to not only cover costs, but also extract significant revenue. Russia has extracted $2.5bn (£2bn) worth of gold from Africa in the past two years, which is likely to have helped fund its war in Ukraine, according to the Blood Gold Report." www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-68322230I read that as well Stuart,Africa still be exploited by colonialists!! This lot are brutal in the extreme ,the West will continue to turn a blind eye as our leaders are incapable of joining the dots. Africa being exploited again, this time by Russian muscle and Chinese money. We dare not say or do anything because of our own history. It seems colonialism only applies to the West. |
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Post by trevorgas on Mar 2, 2024 13:52:47 GMT
I read that as well Stuart,Africa still be exploited by colonialists!! This lot are brutal in the extreme ,the West will continue to turn a blind eye as our leaders are incapable of joining the dots. Africa being exploited again, this time by Russian muscle and Chinese money. We dare not say or do anything because of our own history. It seems colonialism only applies to the West. Absolutely and that's part of the problem. |
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Post by supergas on Mar 3, 2024 6:31:05 GMT
Interesting that some many people came out for Alexei Navanly’s funeral despite the obvious risks A strong showing that does give some hope for the future. Trouble is it will need outside help to get the change he and his supporters want. Did I read correctly somewhere that one of the songs played at the funeral was the Terminator 2 theme song? Because of the messages in the film that the future is not set in stone... |
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Post by supergas on Mar 10, 2024 6:38:27 GMT
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 10, 2024 10:15:16 GMT
Be interesting to know what can be negotiated. I can’t see Putin allowing Ukraine to become a Nato or EU member and withdrawing to either the pre 2022 border or pre 2014 border. Ukraine may have conceded land for peace before this latest round but there is no way they would countenance that now without security guarantees, which will mean nothing now and ring hollow, especially after the likes of Bakhmut, execution of prisoners or the abduction of 20,000 children. Russia would just regroup, rearm and go again in 5-10 years. |
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Post by supergas on Mar 10, 2024 14:32:32 GMT
Be interesting to know what can be negotiated. I can’t see Putin allowing Ukraine to become a Nato or EU member and withdrawing to either the pre 2022 border or pre 2014 border. Ukraine may have conceded land for peace before this latest round but there is no way they would countenance that now without security guarantees, which will mean nothing now and ring hollow, especially after the likes of Bakhmut, execution of prisoners or the abduction of 20,000 children. Russia would just regroup, rearm and go again in 5-10 years. Ukraine would take a worse deal now than they would have 12 months ago, but no way they would agree to not being allowed to join either NATO or the EU - and if any 'ally' suggests they should then we need to ask serious questions of that 'ally'...as you suggest, a bad deal now only allows Russia to go again, in Ukraine or elsewhere, as and when they choose to... |
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