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Post by Gassy on Jan 11, 2021 15:26:06 GMT
Just Googled Tony Timpa. Autopsy showed he died of the effects of cocaine, physiologic distress of physical restraint on his back (not his neck). Cardiac hypertrophy and bipolar disorder also contributed to his death. This is after a law suit from the family claiming guess what... police brutality. So the case isn’t “identical”, there were levels of outrage and there were outcries and law suits for police brutality. The only argument you can have is that it’s not as popular as Floyd death. More smear campaigns to suit a narrative. I said it was pretty much identical. George Floyd also had SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. He also had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system. There wasn't the same level of hysteria or outrage at all, hence why I mentioned it in reply to Axegas. No smear campaign at all, just being balanced yet again. The Police in America shoot and kill people, although its rare. It's the narrative that Police only shoot, kill and injure innocent Black people and that your "White Privilege" will mean you can do pretty much anything without circumstance. Ashli Babbit's "White Privilege" got her far didn't it? Semantics. Whether you said "pretty much identical" or "identical" makes no difference, they're not the same at all. Do you think that changes the fact that you're bending the truth about Tony's death? George died of lack of oxygen, Covid-19 turned out to be present 8 weeks after having had it. The same office that published the document also explained that Covid can be present in someones genetic code weeks after the virus had cleared. You failed to report that bit. Will you stop at nothing to shame George Floyd and warrant his death by police officers? It's not balanced if you're offering an alternative scenario that doesn't match and then making things up about it to suit your narrative. Where have I stated that white people "can do pretty much anything without circumstance"? More smear. Ashli did die, yes. Still doesn't change the fact that how many others didnt? If that was BLM storming the capitol they're would be a lot more dead. That is white privilege. It's also not rare that police in America shoot and kill people. It's roughly 3 people a day are shot and killed by police in the US.
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 11, 2021 15:46:22 GMT
I said it was pretty much identical. George Floyd also had SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. He also had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system. There wasn't the same level of hysteria or outrage at all, hence why I mentioned it in reply to Axegas. No smear campaign at all, just being balanced yet again. The Police in America shoot and kill people, although its rare. It's the narrative that Police only shoot, kill and injure innocent Black people and that your "White Privilege" will mean you can do pretty much anything without circumstance. Ashli Babbit's "White Privilege" got her far didn't it? Semantics. Whether you said "pretty much identical" or "identical" makes no difference, they're not the same at all. Do you think that changes the fact that you made up the facts about Tony's death? George died of lack of oxygen, Covid-19 turned out to be present 8 weeks after having had it. The same office that published the document also explained that Covid can be present in someones genetic code weeks after the virus had cleared. You failed to report that bit. Will you stop at nothing to shame George Floyd and warrant his death by police officers? It's not balanced if you're offering an alternative scenario that doesn't match and then making things up about it to suit your narrative. Where have I stated that white people "can do pretty much anything without circumstance"? More smear. Ashli did die, yes. Still doesn't change the fact that how many others didnt? If that was BLM storming the capitol they're would be a lot more dead. That is white privilege. It's also not rare that police in America shoot and kill people. It's roughly 3 people a day are shot and killed by police in the US. I didn't make up any facts. Both men died in Police custody. George Floyd died when his neck and back were compressed, Timpa died when his back was compressed. Both had narcotics in their system. Both autopsys classified as homicide. "To make it here without dying is the epitome of white privilege”. Ashli Bibbit did die, regardless of how many didn't. 3 people a day, in a country that has a population of circa 330,000,000 is still rare.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 11, 2021 16:18:17 GMT
Semantics. Whether you said "pretty much identical" or "identical" makes no difference, they're not the same at all. Do you think that changes the fact that you made up the facts about Tony's death? George died of lack of oxygen, Covid-19 turned out to be present 8 weeks after having had it. The same office that published the document also explained that Covid can be present in someones genetic code weeks after the virus had cleared. You failed to report that bit. Will you stop at nothing to shame George Floyd and warrant his death by police officers? It's not balanced if you're offering an alternative scenario that doesn't match and then making things up about it to suit your narrative. Where have I stated that white people "can do pretty much anything without circumstance"? More smear. Ashli did die, yes. Still doesn't change the fact that how many others didnt? If that was BLM storming the capitol they're would be a lot more dead. That is white privilege. It's also not rare that police in America shoot and kill people. It's roughly 3 people a day are shot and killed by police in the US. I didn't make up any facts. Both men died in Police custody. George Floyd died when his neck and back were compressed, Timpa died when his back was compressed. Both had narcotics in their system. Both autopsys classified as homicide. "To make it here without dying is the epitome of white privilege”. Ashli Bibbit did die, regardless of how many didn't. 3 people a day, in a country that has a population of circa 330,000,000 is still rare. Yeah edited the facts comment, but you'd already replied. You're still failing to see the point that someone made it there. Not just one, either. If it was BLM protesters, they wouldn't have got anywhere near. That is white privilege. 26th highest killings by millions in the world. Number 1 in 'western' countries. Most police killings in the world with the next highest being 10% of deaths that America has. No, it's not "rare".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 16:25:21 GMT
May sound boring, but the tech exodus from right wing affiliated content is amazing to see. Parler, a free speech app (lol), like Twitter but for right wingers has been kicked off its servers by Amazon and dumped by its legal representatives. Looks as tho any social media based in the US is culling any hate speech, could be an interesting turning point for the internet. But we have to be very careful of curtailing free speech. Take it to far and we fall directly into the hands of the type of people at the insurrection. Things are going to get much worse before better. As evident in this thread, people will bend the truth as far as they can to fit with their narrative.
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 11, 2021 16:56:35 GMT
I didn't make up any facts. Both men died in Police custody. George Floyd died when his neck and back were compressed, Timpa died when his back was compressed. Both had narcotics in their system. Both autopsys classified as homicide. "To make it here without dying is the epitome of white privilege”. Ashli Bibbit did die, regardless of how many didn't. 3 people a day, in a country that has a population of circa 330,000,000 is still rare. If it was BLM protesters, they wouldn't have got anywhere near. That is white privilege. 26th highest killings by millions in the world. Number 1 in 'western' countries. Most police killings in the world with the next highest being 10% of deaths that America has. No, it's not "rare". The first statement is nothing but an assumption. They managed to set up Autonomous Zones, loot buildings, set fire to stuff, vandalise monuments and pull down statues though. Also Left Wing protestors demonstrating against the appointment of Brett Kavanaugh to the US Supreme Court took over the ground floor of a Senate building on Capitol Hill back in 2018. To my knowledge there wasn't anybody shot dead then. If there was I'm not aware of it, so it has happened before, its not unique. 2nd, im not disputing the amount of Gun crime, violence or murders in America, some of the Cities have some of the highest murder rates in the whole World per Capita. I've lived in one. Yes it might have the most Police killings but its also the country with the 3rd biggest population which has a 2nd amendment which is a right to bare arms. With that in mind, the stats on Police killing innocent, unarmed(Which doesn't mean not dangerous by the way) people is still a rare occurence.
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Post by yattongas on Jan 11, 2021 17:26:28 GMT
Apparently someone has hacked Parler and downloaded everything from Jan 6th onwards . All videos , posts etc as evidence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 17:36:16 GMT
Apparently someone has hacked Parler and downloaded everything from Jan 6th onwards . All videos , posts etc as evidence. If true Excellent
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Post by Gassy on Jan 11, 2021 17:37:19 GMT
If it was BLM protesters, they wouldn't have got anywhere near. That is white privilege. 26th highest killings by millions in the world. Number 1 in 'western' countries. Most police killings in the world with the next highest being 10% of deaths that America has. No, it's not "rare". The first statement is nothing but an assumption. They managed to set up Autonomous Zones, loot buildings, set fire to stuff, vandalise monuments and pull down statues though. Also Left Wing protestors demonstrating against the appointment of Brett Kavanaugh to the US Supreme Court took over the ground floor of a Senate building on Capitol Hill back in 2018. To my knowledge there wasn't anybody shot dead then. If there was I'm not aware of it, so it has happened before, its not unique. 2nd, im not disputing the amount of Gun crime, violence or murders in America, some of the Cities have some of the highest murder rates in the whole World per Capita. I've lived in one. Yes it might have the most Police killings but its also the country with the 3rd biggest population which has a 2nd amendment which is a right to bare arms. With that in mind, the stats on Police killing innocent, unarmed(Which doesn't mean not dangerous by the way) people is still a rare occurence. But a correct assumption, history tells us so. Oh wait so you’re now comparing the capitol riots of violence (where they killed a police officer by hitting him on the head with a fire extinguisher) to thousands of women who went to a public building and sat down in the centre of it wearing silver in protest - which was entirely peaceful. You’re then actually saying how they were treated better because no one died. Are you actually for real? You’ll bend the truth of anything, won’t you? And to top it off, they were protesting about families being separated - but hey let’s just call them the left wing. I thought oldies comment earlier was harsh, but you really you be ashamed. Embarrassing comments. And on your second point, to top it off - you’re now retracting your statement that “the police in America shoot and kill people, although it’s rare”? Just for clarity because that is not rare, as the statistics show. You’re now suggesting that it’s about the killing of unarmed people, you’ve moved the goalpost completely. Genuinely shocked by some of your comments. Oh and btw, there have been 35 protests that had more arrests than the capitol riots - but none have been as worse. 25 Americans were killed in protests & riots in the US in 2020. But that won’t suit your narrative.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 11, 2021 17:46:06 GMT
"It's happened before"
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Post by yattongas on Jan 11, 2021 18:01:27 GMT
Apparently someone has hacked Parler and downloaded everything from Jan 6th onwards . All videos , posts etc as evidence. If true Excellent 56 terabytes worth
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Post by Gastafari on Jan 11, 2021 18:03:02 GMT
The first statement is nothing but an assumption. They managed to set up Autonomous Zones, loot buildings, set fire to stuff, vandalise monuments and pull down statues though. Also Left Wing protestors demonstrating against the appointment of Brett Kavanaugh to the US Supreme Court took over the ground floor of a Senate building on Capitol Hill back in 2018. To my knowledge there wasn't anybody shot dead then. If there was I'm not aware of it, so it has happened before, its not unique. 2nd, im not disputing the amount of Gun crime, violence or murders in America, some of the Cities have some of the highest murder rates in the whole World per Capita. I've lived in one. Yes it might have the most Police killings but its also the country with the 3rd biggest population which has a 2nd amendment which is a right to bare arms. With that in mind, the stats on Police killing innocent, unarmed(Which doesn't mean not dangerous by the way) people is still a rare occurence. But a correct assumption, history tells us so. Oh wait so you’re now comparing the capitol riots of violence (where they killed a police officer by hitting him on the head with a fire extinguisher) to thousands of women who went to a public building and sat down in the centre of it wearing silver in protest - which was entirely peaceful. You’re then actually saying how they were treated better because no one died. Are you actually for real? You’ll bend the truth of anything, won’t you? And to top it off, they were protesting about families being separated - but hey let’s just call them the left wing. I thought oldies comment earlier was harsh, but you really you be ashamed. Embarrassing comments. And on your second point, to top it off - you’re now retracting your statement that “the police in America shoot and kill people, although it’s rare”? Just for clarity because that is not rare, as the statistics show. You’re now suggesting that it’s about the killing of unarmed people, you’ve moved the goalpost completely. Genuinely shocked by some of your comments. Oh and btw, there have been 35 protests that had more arrests than the capitol riots - but none have been as worse. 25 Americans were killed in protests & riots in the US in 2020. But that won’t suit your narrative. I'm not comparing, just stating that Capitol buildings have been taken over before. People were killed, including Police Officers in the BLM protests. Amongst plenty of other violence. I guess that was "Entirely Peaceful" as well. Christ, the Left Wing is angelic, Right Wing are Devils on this thread is astounding. I have no bias whatsoever, the people who stormed Capitol Hill are c*nts, people have got seriously hurt and killed I completely condemn it. I haven't retracted anything. 3 people a day in a population of 330,000,000 is rare. Its 1 in every 110,000,000 people. I mentioned unarmed just as another example. Its as rare as being struck by lightning which is about 1 in 500,000. Again rare, I dont know what you're definition of rare is. It's you with the narrative.
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Post by axegas on Jan 11, 2021 18:13:12 GMT
So you’d only need 40,771,584 floppy discs to store it on then...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 18:26:18 GMT
So you’d only need 40,771,584 floppy discs to store it on then... Those were the days😂😂😂
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Post by Gassy on Jan 11, 2021 18:44:23 GMT
But a correct assumption, history tells us so. Oh wait so you’re now comparing the capitol riots of violence (where they killed a police officer by hitting him on the head with a fire extinguisher) to thousands of women who went to a public building and sat down in the centre of it wearing silver in protest - which was entirely peaceful. You’re then actually saying how they were treated better because no one died. Are you actually for real? You’ll bend the truth of anything, won’t you? And to top it off, they were protesting about families being separated - but hey let’s just call them the left wing. I thought oldies comment earlier was harsh, but you really you be ashamed. Embarrassing comments. And on your second point, to top it off - you’re now retracting your statement that “the police in America shoot and kill people, although it’s rare”? Just for clarity because that is not rare, as the statistics show. You’re now suggesting that it’s about the killing of unarmed people, you’ve moved the goalpost completely. Genuinely shocked by some of your comments. Oh and btw, there have been 35 protests that had more arrests than the capitol riots - but none have been as worse. 25 Americans were killed in protests & riots in the US in 2020. But that won’t suit your narrative. I'm not comparing, just stating that Capitol buildings have been taken over before. People were killed, including Police Officers in the BLM protests. Amongst plenty of other violence. I guess that was "Entirely Peaceful" as well. Christ, the Left Wing is angelic, Right Wing are Devils on this thread is astounding. I have no bias whatsoever, the people who stormed Capitol Hill are c*nts, people have got seriously hurt and killed I completely condemn it. I haven't retracted anything. 3 people a day in a population of 330,000,000 is rare. Its 1 in every 110,000,000 people. I mentioned unarmed just as another example. Its as rare as being struck by lightning which is about 1 in 500,000. Again rare, I dont know what you're definition of rare is. It's you with the narrative. You literally made a direct comparison that it's not the first time, you even compared deaths. How on earth is that not a comparison? Nope, didn't say BLM protests were entirely peaceful, can you not make things up please? Those women that you compared to the capitol riots were entirely peaceful. They went into a public building and sat down, and you actually compared that to the taking over of the capitol building. Laughable. Never said the left wing is angelic & right wing are devils - but if a left wing protest of sitting down in a public hall is left wing and storming the capitol is right wing, consider the left angelic! Here's a better example of rare that suits this example. It's like you saying someone winning the lottery is rare. It's not rare, it's a fact. It's rare/unlikely that it will happen to you, but it's not rare. In America, getting killed by the police is not rare. It is a statistical fact that happens on average 3 times a day. I don't have a narrative like yourself here, I'm saying that the deaths of George and Breonna are different cases to the lady at the capitol. It is you who's victim blaming, putting all crimes in the same box, changing the stories of scenarios and directly comparing the capitol riots with the women's march. And for what? Because you think people are hypocrites and this is the only way to get that message across?
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Post by peterparker on Jan 19, 2021 16:06:42 GMT
what Gary said
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Post by yattongas on Jan 19, 2021 16:11:40 GMT
Apparently the word is Trump will hand out over 100 pardons to his criminal mates .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 19:12:08 GMT
Great name on that Twitter account. Eric Feigl Ding
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Post by peterparker on Jan 20, 2021 10:49:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 10:51:15 GMT
Apparently the word is Trump will hand out over 100 pardons to his criminal mates . It's mad isn't it? And people are still gullible enough to worship these politicians. It's been said the pardons are going for 2 million dollars each lol.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 31, 2021 23:20:13 GMT
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