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Post by cheese4ead on Aug 9, 2020 7:52:11 GMT
Don’t understand the dislike of Upson. Signed on a free, played 84 games in all comps for us over two seasons, more MOM performances this season on here than any other player, scored some incredible goals, one of the first names on the team sheet under 3 different managers with us, clearly liked by those who understand football, more experience in the Championship than the rest of the squad combined, something like 300+ professional games in the Championship and League 1. Can’t imagine what your reasons are to be fair. This ☝️ |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 9, 2020 9:38:44 GMT
I’d be amazed if it were, especially seeing as we’re looking like shaping up in a back 3 and he can play either as a CB or wingback. You may be right, though! What makes you think we'll like up with a back 3? I think all the evidence points to a back 4 so interested to hear why so many think we might go this way. Just what I’ve heard... |
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Aug 9, 2020 9:40:32 GMT
I didnt get to watch it yesterday as I was working, but I did look through the interactive commentary when I could, I'm going to be slaughtered for this i can already hear it, did anybody else feel just a little unimpressed? particularly second half.
Please let me know I'm wrong I want to know that we performed brilliantly, if we did it certainly didn't come across that way, I know its early days, to early to say how we will finally play but still... 4.0? it didn't look as though there were many other opportunities... perhaps I'm wrong...
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Post by Jomo on Aug 9, 2020 9:47:21 GMT
I didnt get to watch it yesterday as I was working, but I did look through the interactive commentary when I could, I'm going to be slaughtered for this i can already hear it, did anybody else feel just a little unimpressed? particularly second half. Please let me know I'm wrong I want to know that we performed brilliantly, if we did it certainly didn't come across that way, I know its early days, to early to say how we will finally play but still... 4.0? it didn't look as though there were many other opportunities... perhaps I'm wrong... You seemed pretty satisfied in your post match interview? |
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Post by stroudgas93 on Aug 9, 2020 9:55:39 GMT
Was a decent runout against a fit side that worked hard to keep the chances to a minimum. I only remember their keeper making one save and then just picking the ball out of the net. I also think that Ehmer is going to get a lot of red cards this coming season. Seems to give away needless fouls by going through the back of people. It's still early days and he had good feet distributing from the back on a tough surface and im absolutely sure he will get sharper as time goes on. Walker was really impressive with his two goals and showed great feet and interplay for the first goal, it'll be interesting to see if his introduction is some what of a one off but i hope we get to see a lot more of him over the next few weeks. Upson looked decent as you would expect him to and Hargreaves looked bright when he came on. Barrett getting injured was the only negative aside from the way he played, gives it away a lot and yes i can see this as he's 'trying things' but imo he tries to do far to much.
It was great to have the Gas back and have a proper excuse for cracking open a beer at 11:45am. UTG!
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Post by holmesgas1 on Aug 9, 2020 10:04:14 GMT
I didnt get to watch it yesterday as I was working, but I did look through the interactive commentary when I could, I'm going to be slaughtered for this i can already hear it, did anybody else feel just a little unimpressed? particularly second half. Please let me know I'm wrong I want to know that we performed brilliantly, if we did it certainly didn't come across that way, I know its early days, to early to say how we will finally play but still... 4.0? it didn't look as though there were many other opportunities... perhaps I'm wrong... Yes your wrong, well you did ask. |
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Post by playtowin on Aug 9, 2020 10:04:22 GMT
I didnt get to watch it yesterday as I was working, but I did look through the interactive commentary when I could, I'm going to be slaughtered for this i can already hear it, did anybody else feel just a little unimpressed? particularly second half. Please let me know I'm wrong I want to know that we performed brilliantly, if we did it certainly didn't come across that way, I know its early days, to early to say how we will finally play but still... 4.0? it didn't look as though there were many other opportunities... perhaps I'm wrong... I think you are being a little unrealistic in your expectations for the game. It's the first run out for the players. It's just about being able to play semi competitively for 45mins. A step in getting to full match fitness. It's also just about players fitting into positions getting used to the other players and following pre discussed tactics. The result is pretty immaterial although always nice to win of course. If anything could be taken from the game it's that the first half team is near enough the first choice lineup. We will see mehew replaced by ZW and the young lad upfront replaced by a different striker. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 9, 2020 10:04:48 GMT
I also think that Ehmer is going to get a lot of red cards this coming season. Seems to give away needless fouls by going through the back of people. He’s been sent off once in the last six seasons! Once the rust has gone and minds are fully concentrated he’ll be fine. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 9, 2020 10:11:06 GMT
I didnt get to watch it yesterday as I was working, but I did look through the interactive commentary when I could, I'm going to be slaughtered for this i can already hear it, did anybody else feel just a little unimpressed? particularly second half. Please let me know I'm wrong I want to know that we performed brilliantly, if we did it certainly didn't come across that way, I know its early days, to early to say how we will finally play but still... 4.0? it didn't look as though there were many other opportunities... perhaps I'm wrong... I think you are being a little unrealistic in your expectations for the game. It's the first run out for the players. It's just about being able to play semi competitively for 45mins. A step in getting to full match fitness. It's also just about players fitting into positions getting used to the other players and following pre discussed tactics. The result is pretty immaterial although always nice to win of course. If anything could be taken from the game it's that the first half team is near enough the first choice lineup. We will see mehew replaced by ZW and the young lad upfront replaced by a different striker.Zain Walker scored twice? The 2nd half team managed 1 goal v what must have been a v. tired BMF defence. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 10:23:40 GMT
I didnt get to watch it yesterday as I was working, but I did look through the interactive commentary when I could, I'm going to be slaughtered for this i can already hear it, did anybody else feel just a little unimpressed? particularly second half. Please let me know I'm wrong I want to know that we performed brilliantly, if we did it certainly didn't come across that way, I know its early days, to early to say how we will finally play but still... 4.0? it didn't look as though there were many other opportunities... perhaps I'm wrong... It was a practice match against a southern league Div 1 side. First after months off. What exactly did you expect? |
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Aug 9, 2020 10:26:43 GMT
I didnt get to watch it yesterday as I was working, but I did look through the interactive commentary when I could, I'm going to be slaughtered for this i can already hear it, did anybody else feel just a little unimpressed? particularly second half. Please let me know I'm wrong I want to know that we performed brilliantly, if we did it certainly didn't come across that way, I know its early days, to early to say how we will finally play but still... 4.0? it didn't look as though there were many other opportunities... perhaps I'm wrong... It was a practice match against a southern league Div 1 side. First after months off. What exactly did you expect? ok OK I get it, I knew this wasn't going to be popular. Trust me, I'm not one of these negative posters, It just felt a little... i dunno.. flat? |
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Aug 9, 2020 10:27:46 GMT
I didnt get to watch it yesterday as I was working, but I did look through the interactive commentary when I could, I'm going to be slaughtered for this i can already hear it, did anybody else feel just a little unimpressed? particularly second half. Please let me know I'm wrong I want to know that we performed brilliantly, if we did it certainly didn't come across that way, I know its early days, to early to say how we will finally play but still... 4.0? it didn't look as though there were many other opportunities... perhaps I'm wrong... Yes your wrong, well you did ask. No, this i am fine with |
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 9, 2020 10:32:45 GMT
What makes you think we'll like up with a back 3? I think all the evidence points to a back 4 so interested to hear why so many think we might go this way. Just what I’ve heard... Same here. Just judging by the signings of Ehmer & Baldwin, along with Alfie and Cian Harries. Granted we've let Tony Craig leave, sold Menayese and Tom Davies is out injured long term, so that leaves us with 4 Centre Backs. I guess we'll wait and see. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 10:43:20 GMT
It was a practice match against a southern league Div 1 side. First after months off. What exactly did you expect? ok OK I get it, I knew this wasn't going to be popular. Trust me, I'm not one of these negative posters, It just felt a little... i dunno.. flat? Friendly matches are always like that. I went to Melksham a couple of years back. We scored almost everytime we tried. But we didn't much and remember Coughlan (as coach) screaming at Harrison for lack of effort. It's just practice |
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 9, 2020 10:47:46 GMT
Thought he was moving across the pitch a lot quicker than before, that's how he pulled his hamstring. He's built that way. Moan because he's got a big but 😂. Heard it all now. He played some good passes today, that 90% of player's wouldn't see at this level. That photo prices he has actually lost weight. I don't know who you are trying to kid, he played a few passes that you would expect any competent league one midfielder to make, he also gave the ball away cheaply a couple of times. It's pre-season, that's what happens. I've said it before and I'll probably say it again, Barrett is a talented player with a lot of ability and potential, but as i see it the only way he'll fulfil that potential and perform to the best of his ability is If he can get to peak fitness and condition. Hopefully for the start of the season he will be somewhere near that. It was his vision, weight and timing of pass that looked good and a lot of player's don't have all 3 at this level. On one occasion he had 3 player's on him in a tight space. He slowed the game down, kept the ball close to him and then threaded a through ball through the tightest of gaps to Leary enabling him to cross first time. Plus not many player's would have had the vision to try the chip that hit the bar. I was only discussing him as you felt the need to highlight his weight, even though you could see he has lost weight and was moving a lot more. Garner had already said he had come back in better shape and had hit his demands and those reporting on the game said how sharp he was looking until the injury. He's never going to be the quickest and fittest player in the squad, if he was he wouldn't be with us. As long as he's fit enough to move into space, to track back and to keep going, that's all that matters. He's highly unlikely to be fit for the start of the season, now he's hurt his hamstring, which is a shame as he gives us something different. His hamstring went as he's not used to rubbing that fast, done the same thing myself a few times. Annoying but that's what can happen, when you improve your fitness over a short period of time. Especially when your muscles are tired. |
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Post by rambo on Aug 9, 2020 10:54:14 GMT
What makes you think we'll like up with a back 3? I think all the evidence points to a back 4 so interested to hear why so many think we might go this way. Just what I’ve heard... Fair enough. Are you allowed to say who from? I think we have the squad now to be flexible and adapt and I don't doubt we'll see multiple formations used. I just think with the wingers we now have on the books and when BG arrived it was very apparent he liked the 4-2-3-1, it's likely he'll try and use that system. Personally think BG will line up something along the lines of the following for the first league game Jaakkola Hare, Alfie, Ehmer, Kelly Grant, Upson Nicholson, Westbrooke, JML JCH |
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Post by warwickgas on Aug 9, 2020 10:59:47 GMT
I also think that Ehmer is going to get a lot of red cards this coming season. Seems to give away needless fouls by going through the back of people. He’s been sent off once in the last six seasons! Once the rust has gone and minds are fully concentrated he’ll be fine. Gillingham fans say he can give away penalties as he has a tendency to shirt tug |
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Post by pirate on Aug 9, 2020 11:28:51 GMT
I don't know who you are trying to kid, he played a few passes that you would expect any competent league one midfielder to make, he also gave the ball away cheaply a couple of times. It's pre-season, that's what happens. I've said it before and I'll probably say it again, Barrett is a talented player with a lot of ability and potential, but as i see it the only way he'll fulfil that potential and perform to the best of his ability is If he can get to peak fitness and condition. Hopefully for the start of the season he will be somewhere near that. It was his vision, weight and timing of pass that looked good and a lot of player's don't have all 3 at this level. On one occasion he had 3 player's on him in a tight space. He slowed the game down, kept the ball close to him and then threaded a through ball through the tightest of gaps to Leary enabling him to cross first time. Plus not many player's would have had the vision to try the chip that hit the bar. I was only discussing him as you felt the need to highlight his weight, even though you could see he has lost weight and was moving a lot more. Garner had already said he had come back in better shape and had hit his demands and those reporting on the game said how sharp he was looking until the injury. He's never going to be the quickest and fittest player in the squad, if he was he wouldn't be with us. As long as he's fit enough to move into space, to track back and to keep going, that's all that matters. He's highly unlikely to be fit for the start of the season, now he's hurt his hamstring, which is a shame as he gives us something different. His hamstring went as he's not used to rubbing that fast, done the same thing myself a few times. Annoying but that's what can happen, when you improve your fitness over a short period of time. Especially when your muscles are tired. Injuries are more likely to occur to tired muscles, but they are also more likely to occur to overweight and poorly conditioned players as more force is exerted on the muscle. Allowing for enough electrolytes will decrease the likelihood of muscle cramping and pulls and keeping the body hydrated, alongside a well balanced diet is essential for injury prevention. Good luck to him in his recovery and let's hope it's only a minor grade 1 injury. |
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Aug 9, 2020 11:35:03 GMT
ok OK I get it, I knew this wasn't going to be popular. Trust me, I'm not one of these negative posters, It just felt a little... i dunno.. flat? Friendly matches are always like that. I went to Melksham a couple of years back. We scored almost everytime we tried. But we didn't much and remember Coughlan (as coach) screaming at Harrison for lack of effort. It's just practice Certainly is wise not to read too much into friendly matches, or early season games to be honest. I remember a friendly at Sutton United where Alvin Bubb and Ross Weare were the best two players on the pitch (nuff said!). Also I came away from the first game of the season at Griffin Park where we got tanked 5-1 thinking Parkin and McCaffrey can’t defend together and Withey is a slow useless lump etc. Etc. Soon we were handing out 5-0 and 5-1 beatings of our own to Wigan, Leyton Orient and Portsmouth!! As for yesterday, to address the flat, unimpressive labels being mooted. - they are doing 2 to 3 training sessions a day to get basic fitness up, before real matches they would not have such rigorous training in their legs - they were kicking off at noon in the midday sun (mad dogs and Englishmen!) - each of them were at a different stage in their preparedness some are naturally fit e.g. Zain Walker, Tomlinson and look sharper than those who need a bit more conditioning e.g. JCH or Barrett - once Barrett went off BG used it as an exercise in how to keep the ball and manage a game with fewer players than the opposition. Daly, Nicholson, Ayunga (3), Barrett, Rodman, Tomlinson all missed presentable chances to extend the scoreline but I’m quite glad they didn’t, a 12-0 score would have far too many going overboard and was hardly what our hosts deserved. - it will be different when they’re playing in front of a packed house (oh, wait...). Was interesting being able to hear BG bark out orders and encouragement from the sidelines, especially around, shape, moving the press up, recovery positions when possession is lost etc. Walker and Mehew received a lot of help, direction and encouragement for example. All in all it was something to build on. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 9, 2020 13:10:01 GMT
It was his vision, weight and timing of pass that looked good and a lot of player's don't have all 3 at this level. On one occasion he had 3 player's on him in a tight space. He slowed the game down, kept the ball close to him and then threaded a through ball through the tightest of gaps to Leary enabling him to cross first time. Plus not many player's would have had the vision to try the chip that hit the bar. I was only discussing him as you felt the need to highlight his weight, even though you could see he has lost weight and was moving a lot more. Garner had already said he had come back in better shape and had hit his demands and those reporting on the game said how sharp he was looking until the injury. He's never going to be the quickest and fittest player in the squad, if he was he wouldn't be with us. As long as he's fit enough to move into space, to track back and to keep going, that's all that matters. He's highly unlikely to be fit for the start of the season, now he's hurt his hamstring, which is a shame as he gives us something different. His hamstring went as he's not used to rubbing that fast, done the same thing myself a few times. Annoying but that's what can happen, when you improve your fitness over a short period of time. Especially when your muscles are tired. Injuries are more likely to occur to tired muscles, but they are also more likely to occur to overweight and poorly conditioned players as more force is exerted on the muscle. Allowing for enough electrolytes will decrease the likelihood of muscle cramping and pulls and keeping the body hydrated, alongside a well balanced diet is essential for injury prevention. Good luck to him in his recovery and let's hope it's only a minor grade 1 injury. I know that, but you can see that's not the case with him IMO. He's lost weight, not put it on, so there would be less impact. That normally happens when people put the weight on and their muscles are not used to it. If you get faster, your muscles stretch further and are more likely to tear, as they are not used to it. He was sprinting down the wing. What you are taking about happens, when player's put on weight. Not when they lose it. Garner said he's been following the new nutritionists advice etc. So you would have thought that, was not the problem. I have seen injuries occur like his in the past, when someone losses weight and is that bit quicker at full speed. Have to be careful and work on flexibility at the same time, but it's still high risk. Both myself and others I have worked with have pulled muscles, when they have increased their speed and agility over a short period of time. The commentator said he went off because of the knock, but I said it was his hamstring straight away. I even wrote it on this thread before Garner or Barrett mentioned it. |
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