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Post by Gassy on Feb 9, 2020 8:59:01 GMT
Agree about Barrett, it's also on Garner for signing an unfit player. Surely we do tests he has to pass before signing a contract? Tbh, I always thought people were exaggerating on Barrett's fitness/weight, but yesterday was the first time I really saw it. Especially when he was stood next to Little, who's been injured for weeks/months and is still in perfect shape.
FWIW, I thought Little had a good game yesterday, it definitely helped us overall having a proper right back.
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Post by darkbluegas on Feb 9, 2020 8:59:19 GMT
I’m pretty sure Coppell had mental health issues to deal with, which is why he had walked out on a couple of occasions. My impression of him was that he played a pragmatic style, not unlike Coughlan’s, and that he’s more realistic regarding the teams abilities. I never understood Garner’s appeal but it’s too late now. It’s strange that having worked with Ollie, Pulis, Warnock and Pardew, he (Garner) would choose to play a possession based game. His win percentage remains at 0% which is fairly damning I would say. If SC has been watching, I would not be surprised if he is acting a mentor to BG already. No need to be on payroll or touch line to help out . . . That would be my take as well. Probably he’s seen a mate having a tough time and giving him some support. After all he’s had a difficult couple of months personally and professionally. Doubt He wants to be tied to a club at this stage in his life. |
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Post by oldgas on Feb 9, 2020 9:35:24 GMT
I didn't go yesterday so it's difficult to give a qualified opinion. However listening to the RB commentary, it would seem that we conspired to lose the game because we had a number of chances from open play.
The commentary team were also critical of the referee who they thought failed to award us a couple of penalties. Just one, if scored, would have made a big difference, but of course we'll never know. It seems to me we never have a lot of luck, or success against Wycombe, they're just one of those horrible bastard sides with a Banned word manager.
Can you imagine the weekly stuffings they would get in the Championship? There's hardly an average sized club gets promoted that doesn't come straight back down, or may struggle to survive for a season or 2 before being relegated.
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Post by landrover on Feb 9, 2020 9:52:22 GMT
I don’t suppose Wycombe have ‘out possessed’ any team all season. It’s not their style. Ainsworth has performed miracles in getting them to where they are.
Yes they’re a horrible team as opposed to us who must be the softest touch to play against.
Still never mind, that neuro linguistics degree will come in handy any day soon!
(Sorry pirate, I couldn’t resist).
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Post by madgas on Feb 9, 2020 10:50:18 GMT
A sensible reaction to someone using maths? No ones saying 10 year contract. But we can let it run to the end of the season, likely . What a fantastic idea! Past history of L1 tells us relegation fighting teams will pick up points towards the end of the season. There's also always at least 1 team who'll drop down to join the fight. We're in absolute free fall and can't get close to a win, why not continue that for another 3 months? Personally I think we should stick for a while longer... You think differently. Some reasoned articulation would be better than abject ignorance on maths followed by sarcasm. If it helps, I'll flip it into direct question: what's the case for getting a new manager? |
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Feb 9, 2020 12:03:44 GMT
How did Abraham look when he came on? Sounds like we are creating more chances but form still very worrying. Tuesday's game is huge now!
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Post by Congas on Feb 9, 2020 12:04:35 GMT
Lively
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 9, 2020 12:37:19 GMT
Agree about Barrett, it's also on Garner for signing an unfit player. Surely we do tests he has to pass before signing a contract? Tbh, I always thought people were exaggerating on Barrett's fitness/weight, but yesterday was the first time I really saw it. Especially when he was stood next to Little, who's been injured for weeks/months and is still in perfect shape. FWIW, I thought Little had a good game yesterday, it definitely helped us overall having a proper right back. I checked the Coventry City forum after we signed Barrett and they mentioned his weight issue. He was there from Jan 2018!! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 13:30:28 GMT
One of the reasons i did not renew my season ticket was because coughlan would be playing clarke,upson and ogogo in midfield together so yes i agree. #faithfulandtrue Everyone has their own particular relationship with rovers. I went with my dad at eastville as a child. I played for 30 years and just followed rovers in the media. Then when i stopped playing i mixed up watch local football and rovers. I got a season ticket for the conference season but now i have switched back to mixing local football at my last club shirehampton and rovers. You live your life and i will live mine. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 14:17:21 GMT
Just listened to the managers interview after today's game, he says, worst run of results he has ever experienced, how can that be, he's never been a manager before in his life at any level. Blames the referee, their all crap in Div 1, get on with it, there were positives from the game, sure there must have been, we lost 3-1 and he keeps telling us after every defeat or draw or loss he saw positives and the team were unlucky. Worst start by any manager in the history of Bristol Rovers, is that why Steve Coppell was at the game again today. Is the problem there is no money to sack Garner on a 2.5 year contract and no money to invite Coppell to join the club as a mentor. A selection panel of 3 decided that Garner was our man, who of the 3 selection panel had the casting vote. No-one had a casting vote as there were an odd number on the panel. A casting vote is an extra one given to break a deadlock when the votes are equal so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make? |
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Post by Gassy on Feb 9, 2020 16:26:05 GMT
What a fantastic idea! Past history of L1 tells us relegation fighting teams will pick up points towards the end of the season. There's also always at least 1 team who'll drop down to join the fight. We're in absolute free fall and can't get close to a win, why not continue that for another 3 months? Personally I think we should stick for a while longer... You think differently. Some reasoned articulation would be better than abject ignorance on maths followed by sarcasm. If it helps, I'll flip it into direct question: what's the case for getting a new manager? A while longer, or until the end of the season? As I've said a few times, but you like to ignore those posts, we have to win at Tranmere or Ben should go IMO. What's the case for a new manager? - We've conceded 22 goals in 12 games. Nearly 2 goals per game. - We've scored 6 goals in 12 games. - We have failed to score in 7 of those 12 games and we were 30 seconds away from breaking a record of not scoring a goal. - Only 3 of those goals have been from open play, 2 from penalties and one a set piece. - We've picked up 3 points since the 26th December. - We're bottom of the L1 form table in 10 games. - The crowds are dropping to lower than they have been since relegation to the conference - We were 4th at the beginning of Ben's reign. We're now 13th. - We were 4/5pts ahead of 7th, but now find ourselves 10 points from 6th. - Our GD is 12 worse than when Ben took over. - Every 2nd half Ben can't adapt to the game and change tactics, we come out worse. That or his half time team talks just don't motivate the players. - He said he wouldn't change anything/rock the boat as what we're doing it working, but immediately we played a different style and now we're crap. Ultimately, if we can't beat Tranmere on Tuesday then we really have no chance of winning another game all season, which for me is unacceptable and Ben should go if we don't win. I'd rather bring someone new in, we cannot get any worse than we are now. Ben's completely out of his depth and he needs help. If we were to bring in someone to assist him, EG Warnock or Coppell etc. then I'd give him until the end of the season no doubt. Win at Tranmere and he's bought himself another 5 games to build on that, but the results have to come quick because ultimately he his management has been f*cking useless. |
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Post by aghast on Feb 9, 2020 17:30:33 GMT
It's pretty damning when you read it like that.
I do wonder what his half time talks are like. I fear that instead of giving some the hairdryer treatment and others some inspiration, he gets out the flip charts and starts drawing formations and tactics. I can almost see the jaded players' eyes glazing over.
I think BG needs help, and he needs it now. Limping along like we are now does nothing to help the club, players or BG himself. If we end up in the bottom six, saved from relegation only by GC's earlier efforts and the likes of Bolton and Southend, then he will have lost the players and fans completely.
Apart from a diehard few who cannot or will not see that something is going horribly wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 17:34:44 GMT
Everyone has their own particular relationship with rovers. I went with my dad at eastville as a child. I played for 30 years and just followed rovers in the media. Then when i stopped playing i mixed up watch local football and rovers. I got a season ticket for the conference season but now i have switched back to mixing local football at my last club shirehampton and rovers. You live your life and i will live mine. Absolutely. Just strikes me as strange you've withdrawn the support for the club due to the midfield selected. |
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 9, 2020 17:50:33 GMT
The figures don't lie and are beyond dispute. His record as manager at Rovers is truly appalling.
The only real debate now is how long will he be given to turn things around. Some say go now. Some say 5 games. Others say end of season. In truth, I can understand and appreciate everybody's view. One thing for sure: the fans and club would have expected a win by now from whoever was appointed following GC's departure.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 17:50:42 GMT
Everyone has their own particular relationship with rovers. I went with my dad at eastville as a child. I played for 30 years and just followed rovers in the media. Then when i stopped playing i mixed up watch local football and rovers. I got a season ticket for the conference season but now i have switched back to mixing local football at my last club shirehampton and rovers. You live your life and i will live mine. Absolutely. Just strikes me as strange you've withdrawn the support for the club due to the midfield selected. Well i just think that selecting 3 defensive midfield players as coughlan often did,hardly encourages fans to want to go to games. Strange thing is towards the end of the coughlan era he seldom played the 3 of them and i was starting to warm to the more aggressive and even a little bit more attack minded football we had played under him. |
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Post by pirate on Feb 9, 2020 18:24:45 GMT
Agree about Barrett, it's also on Garner for signing an unfit player. Surely we do tests he has to pass before signing a contract? Tbh, I always thought people were exaggerating on Barrett's fitness/weight, but yesterday was the first time I really saw it. Especially when he was stood next to Little, who's been injured for weeks/months and is still in perfect shape. FWIW, I thought Little had a good game yesterday, it definitely helped us overall having a proper right back. I checked the Coventry City forum after we signed Barrett and they mentioned his weight issue. He was there from Jan 2018!! Amazing that 2 years on the same things are being said about his weight issues. Need to get it sorted ASAP. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 19:17:03 GMT
At least we have got two and a half years to get barrett fit.
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 9, 2020 19:44:44 GMT
Listened to commentary so difficult to assess however sounded like we missed a load of chances and denied 2 pens, disappointed by points total since Ben arrived however seems to be slowly improving us, it was never going to be easy but think he deserves a free shot til the end of the season.
Be good to see some of the new signings integrated in, have high hopes for Barrett however does look a trifle overweight at moment.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 9, 2020 19:52:27 GMT
Just had a thought, I didn’t see the new CB (from Swansea) or the striker (from palace) on the team sheet.
Any reason?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2020 19:59:37 GMT
Just had a thought, I didn’t see the new CB (from Swansea) or the striker (from palace) on the team sheet. Any reason? Daly[palace] injured in training ,no idea on harries. |
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