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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 8, 2020 23:25:30 GMT
After the first 2 or 3 games, a lot of Rovers fans on here were saying that this was always coming even with GC because we were tired. What's the excuse now? . They've had a break now then have they?? No we have still been playing twice a week. So how would they be less tired?? |
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Post by toddy1953 on Jan 8, 2020 23:29:55 GMT
After the first 2 or 3 games, a lot of Rovers fans on here were saying that this was always coming even with GC because we were tired. What's the excuse now? . They've had a break now then have they?? No we have still been playing twice a week. So how would they be less tired?? No reason players can’t play twice a week, but they get more fatigued if they don’t win. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 23:31:22 GMT
As frustrating as another loss was tonight, Ben G has acquired a class player in Barrett. A player to build a side around I would say, once the dead wood has been drafted out. Agreed.On a sh** nighy Barrett did look not at his best but will be a future star for sure. Agreed but needs to watch the Pizzas. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 8, 2020 23:39:05 GMT
. They've had a break now then have they?? No we have still been playing twice a week. So how would they be less tired?? No reason players can’t play twice a week, but they get more fatigued if they don’t win. Playing twice a week, for weeks in a row catches up with player's. Player's get knocks, tight muscles etc. They then need a rest, but have been unable to. You can see the difference, even at an elite level. That's why they all have big squads now. This isn't park football. Player's cover a lot more ground. They sprint a lot more than amateur player's. It does make a big difference. Every time they play, they will be slightly more fatigued. Not to mention not getting the time on the training pitch. Who ever came in, was found to struggle and was going to need time. I'm not saying Garner will come good. I don't have a clue how he will do long term. I'm just saying it's too early to write him off. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 23:56:11 GMT
£40K for a win, £500K+ for reaching the final hardly makes it a friendly? Plus it's the same cr@p we've seen in every other game BG's looking totally out of his depth, whats is record so far LDLDL?? 5 games ago we were top of the current form. Coughlan's first 4 games this season were LDLW, and he'd been manager for 8 months and 7 of the starting XI players were players he'd signed. Give him time, it's clear we were papering over cracks, first team to lose to Bolton and got dominated by Southend Thats just selective nonsense because we came back and smashed southend had a series of great away wins including ipswich and had grimly battled to cup wins at bromley and plymouth. We were deservedly in a hard fought 4th place. Now some wizz kid has showed up and talked of changing everything about the team. At best garner has been naive at worst plain arrogant and incompetent. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jan 9, 2020 0:06:38 GMT
Coughlan's first 4 games this season were LDLW, and he'd been manager for 8 months and 7 of the starting XI players were players he'd signed. Give him time, it's clear we were papering over cracks, first team to lose to Bolton and got dominated by Southend Thats just selective nonsense because we came back and smashed southend had a series of great away wins including ipswich and had grimly battled to cup wins at bromley and plymouth. We were deservedly in a hard fought 4th place. Now some wizz kid has showed up and talked of changing everything about the team.At best garner has been naive at worst plain arrogant and incompetent. He hasn't just 'showed up' he was interviewed by Wael and during this would have gone through his ideas for how her wants the team to play. The season is a write off thanks to Coughlan and cemented by Wael. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2020 0:12:28 GMT
As frustrating as another loss was tonight, Ben G has acquired a class player in Barrett. A player to build a side around I would say, once the dead wood has been drafted out. By all means dismiss my opinion but one decent game at home to stevanage in front of 900 fans is not proof that barrett is a class player. |
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Post by aghast on Jan 9, 2020 0:15:23 GMT
And for all those kicking off, you just wait until the new manager bounce wears off. I was going to comment on that as well. To be fair, sh**e as GC's entertainment was, with his undeniably excellent points haul, the only way it was ever going to go for BG was down. And down it certainly has gone. Too early to judge his future, but currently it's looking similar to the way I expected it, shifting into worse than I feared. |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jan 9, 2020 0:19:36 GMT
Yep that one. He knew where Bristol was when he signed for us. It's not like it was a job for life. Could have waited until the end of the season or not started this one in the first place. Talks a good game about no one ever giving him a chance so when he finally gets one he shows absolutely zero loyalty and leaves at the earliest opportunity. So Mansfield would have waited until the end of the season for him would they? So even if you weren't a fan of Bristol Rovers then you still put them before your family would you? No. But I wouldn't take a job away from home and then drop my employer, who had given me a big opportunity, in the sh** out of the blue either |
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Post by aghast on Jan 9, 2020 0:20:03 GMT
Papering over cracks or playing to our strengths? If Man City had played hoofball in the last two seasons they wouldn’t have won the league so they didn’t , their manager has built a side that are capable of pressing high and playing very intricate passing moves , he had a style in mind , brought the players in to do it and has been very successful. Coughlan had a style in his mind brought the players in to do it and got it bang on and was very good at making it work. Now it’s garners turn, poor time to do it mid season but if this is the wY he wants to go then he needs many more players in and out before the end of the month but all we can do is prey he gets it right because if he gets it wrong and gets sacked we could end up with a squad full of players that either aren’t good enough or don’t suit the next managers style stuck on 2 year deals and around it goes again. Troubling times. Yep, I don't imagine the board thought that Coughlan was the sort of manager that would evolve the team the way DC had planned it to go, but you couldn't argue with his results. It caused us to play against the 'ethos' that we were touted to be working towards. It felt like we were just about getting rid of DC's less effective players and getting towards GC's sort of team. That project would have been finished in the summer. Now, it seems with the contrasting aspirations of GC and BG we're in the confused position of building BG's team before GC's team has been finished and before DC's team has even been disbanded. It's concerning coz if Garner's appointment doesn't work out we will need a miracle worker to sort through the remaining detritus. Not like you to provide a complex explanation that forces you to read it twice to make sure you understood it. But also very true. |
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Post by toddy1953 on Jan 9, 2020 0:21:07 GMT
No reason players can’t play twice a week, but they get more fatigued if they don’t win. Playing twice a week, for weeks in a row catches up with player's. Player's get knocks, tight muscles etc. They then need a rest, but have been unable to. You can see the difference, even at an elite level. That's why they all have big squads now. This isn't park football. Player's cover a lot more ground. They sprint a lot more than amateur player's. It does make a big difference. Every time they play, they will be slightly more fatigued. Not to mention not getting the time on the training pitch. Who ever came in, was found to struggle and was going to need time. I'm not saying Garner will come good. I don't have a clue how he will do long term. I'm just saying it's too early to write him off. These are fit players not amateurs playing park football. They have sports scientists & physios & proper treatment for their injuries. I bet they would rather play games than train & when they are winning the effects of tiredness is less. If GC had stayed players would be familiar with playing patterns but now they need more time on the training pitch as they are attempting to play a different style of football & that’s not happening due to playing twice a week - I wouldn’t blame it on tiredness though. It might have been better to stick with the system players were used to in the short term, who knows? I’m not writing him off just yet, I would love him to succeed, top 6, playing nice football, great stuff. He was chosen to bring in inexpensive players to coach get rid of those not up to it &/or on high wages & also to bring the best out of our existing young players, to attempt to make us sustainable as we are losing too much money. I get it, but in the main I want us to win, if we win ugly then that’s fine with me. Tonight was nothing to do with tiredness. |
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Post by pirate on Jan 9, 2020 0:26:47 GMT
As frustrating as another loss was tonight, Ben G has acquired a class player in Barrett. A player to build a side around I would say, once the dead wood has been drafted out. By all means dismiss my opinion but one decent game at home to stevanage in front of 900 fans is not proof that barrett is a class player. Barrett only showed glimpses of his ability. A few nice passes. Faded in the second half. However tonight isn't the night to judge him either way as you alluded. |
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Post by Icegas on Jan 9, 2020 1:35:31 GMT
The match report should be summed up by the stupid red mark across his forehead from wearing his baseball cap all game. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 9, 2020 7:08:52 GMT
After the first 2 or 3 games, a lot of Rovers fans on here were saying that this was always coming even with GC because we were tired. What's the excuse now? . They've had a break now then have they?? No we have still been playing twice a week. So how would they be less tired?? Well last night for example, we played a lot of players who haven't played in all these games. Go on say it, we lost because they're rusty. We needn't bother turning up against Donny and Coventry and whoever we have got that following Saturday, based on your logic. Maybe all the players should worry about putting their feet up for a few weeks instead of trying to play football. Don't want the tiring themselves out more Do we. Keep on happy clapping though... |
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Post by Congas on Jan 9, 2020 7:21:04 GMT
Kilgour, undoubtedly decent, is not a RB and offers no out ball. I actually think he’s been instructed to come inside and sit next to Upson when we have the ball, meaning we can keep numbers in the middle whilst Sercombe pushes up. Since when was sideways up? |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jan 9, 2020 7:23:18 GMT
By all means dismiss my opinion but one decent game at home to stevanage in front of 900 fans is not proof that barrett is a class player. Barrett only showed glimpses of his ability. A few nice passes. Faded in the second half. However tonight isn't the night to judge him either way as you alluded. He faded after he moved to the left wing |
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Post by Congas on Jan 9, 2020 7:31:39 GMT
Just getting everyone’s names wrong and having a generally poor knowledge of Rovers. Also said Barrett was on loan, blokes commentary is poor also. Always the same with him. Pete Simpson the most annoying commentator on Radio Bristol. "You've got me on Saturday as well, Keith" |
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Post by Gassy on Jan 9, 2020 7:33:30 GMT
. They've had a break now then have they?? No we have still been playing twice a week. So how would they be less tired?? Well last night for example, we played a lot of players who haven't played in all these games. Go on say it, we lost because they're rusty. We needn't bother turning up against Donny and Coventry and whoever we have got that following Saturday, based on your logic. Maybe all the players should worry about putting their feet up for a few weeks instead of trying to play football. Don't want the tiring themselves out more Do we. Keep on happy clapping though... If our professional athletes are so damn tired (when every other team is playing pretty much just as many atm), why don’t we do a Bolton and refuse to play Doncaster over player welfare? 🤭 |
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Post by Congas on Jan 9, 2020 7:45:20 GMT
Would you have GCs sh** football back right now? We're back to DC's last stand like Coughlan was never here. |
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