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Post by RD on Dec 15, 2019 10:14:43 GMT
If the issue truly is family related and being away from them, then why was he fine for 8 years at Southend? Did he not live there and had to commute every day? Did the family live closer? Surely not. Obviously bad taste to speculate in this regard, but maybe someone in the family had a health scare etc. Made him realise life is too short and change his priorities. Or his wife has finally reached breaking point etc. There are things that could have happened that make the fact he's been doing it for the last 8+ years irrelevant I guess.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 15, 2019 10:22:12 GMT
If the issue truly is family related and being away from them, then why was he fine for 8 years at Southend? Did he not live there and had to commute every day? Did the family live closer? Surely not. Obviously bad taste to speculate in this regard, but maybe someone in the family had a health scare etc. Made him realise life is too short and change his priorities. Or his wife has finally reached breaking point etc. There are things that could have happened that make the fact he's been doing it for the last 8+ years irrelevant I guess. Nonsense just read the B Post article, it's down to the playing budget lack of training ground etc.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 15, 2019 10:24:29 GMT
Obviously bad taste to speculate in this regard, but maybe someone in the family had a health scare etc. Made him realise life is too short and change his priorities. Or his wife has finally reached breaking point etc. There are things that could have happened that make the fact he's been doing it for the last 8+ years irrelevant I guess. Nonsense just read the B Post article, it's down to the playing budget lack of training ground etc. Ah well, if it's in the sh** post it must be true.
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Post by peterparker on Dec 15, 2019 10:28:53 GMT
Obviously bad taste to speculate in this regard, but maybe someone in the family had a health scare etc. Made him realise life is too short and change his priorities. Or his wife has finally reached breaking point etc. There are things that could have happened that make the fact he's been doing it for the last 8+ years irrelevant I guess. Nonsense just read the B Post article, it's down to the playing budget lack of training ground etc. Didnt GC say it didnt matter where we train when he took over?
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Post by gasheadontour on Dec 15, 2019 10:29:51 GMT
The messages in that interview:
'Anniversary of his first year in charge'
'The opportunity is there for the club to push on'
'Club needs to sign more senior players'
'Concerns about how far he can go with the club'
'Letting steam off' at the end celebrating with players and fans.
In his previous interview he praised players and fans and wished the whole club was pulling together.
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Post by stapletongas on Dec 15, 2019 10:33:25 GMT
I reckon the overriding issue is family not club issues. If there was no family issue he'd be soldiering on with whatever behind the scenes because GC is not a quitter. If he's only seeing his family sometimes once a fortnight, that will be an incredible strain. Good luck to the bloke, if he goes for that reason, that's honourable.. So he just got lucky then finding a club with a decent training ground who could match his present salary! We all have to work!
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Post by Gassy on Dec 15, 2019 10:33:56 GMT
Nonsense just read the B Post article, it's down to the playing budget lack of training ground etc. Didnt GC say it didnt matter where we train when he took over? I believe he actually said "The stadium is fine" "The budget is good" "The training facilities are fine & better than Sheffield Wednesday's" A year ago, he was joyous at his first chance to be a manager. Suddenly he's potentially throwing us under a bus because the things he said were fine last season, are suddenly not fine. Doesn't leave a nice taste in my mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 10:38:21 GMT
Didnt GC say it didnt matter where we train when he took over? I believe he actually said "The stadium is fine" "The budget is good" "The training facilities are fine & better than Sheffield Wednesday's" A year ago, he was joyous at his first chance to be a manager. Suddenly he's potentially throwing us under a bus because the things he said were fine last season, are suddenly not fine. Doesn't leave a nice taste in my mouth. Spot on
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Post by gasheadontour on Dec 15, 2019 10:44:38 GMT
GC wants the club to back him with a couple of experienced players to take the club forwards because he's got what he can out of what he has. He may also deserve better terms now that he has proven worthy of it.
Clubs for sale don't tend to invest money.
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Post by stuartcampbell on Dec 15, 2019 10:45:13 GMT
Do find it funny he said the budget is good, considering he's spent £0 on transfer fees in two transfer windows
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Post by Jomo on Dec 15, 2019 10:48:41 GMT
Didnt GC say it didnt matter where we train when he took over? I believe he actually said "The stadium is fine" "The budget is good" "The training facilities are fine & better than Sheffield Wednesday's" A year ago, he was joyous at his first chance to be a manager. Suddenly he's potentially throwing us under a bus because the things he said were fine last season, are suddenly not fine. Doesn't leave a nice taste in my mouth. To be fair Gassy, didn't he only respond to a question asking how far can he take this club by responding "I don't know" and then stated he had a personal decision to make after talking to his wife and kids. Nothing specifically related to the training ground, budget etc? Or have I missed something? As you know I work away a lot and it definitely puts a lot of strain on my home life. Give it a few years and I guarantee I will need to change it because I know it has a shelf life if I want to keep my relationships at home going. I wonder if this is what is driving GC in this situation. I personally don't see it as GC throwing us under a bus. If he leaves then he's left us considerably better off position-wise than when he took over a year ago. And this is coming from someone who has never quite taken to him as much as I did DC. GC deserves and has deserved more credit than he's gotten from us Gasheads.
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Post by twertonboy on Dec 15, 2019 10:53:38 GMT
Fans on here who berated him can’t question his loyalty when he’s performed a miracle with the state of the team which DC left us in and a lot of fans still not rating him yet he’s been our best league 1 manager in along time.??
Fans aren’t turning up and supporting the club yet moan the board don’t invest??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 10:53:39 GMT
I believe he actually said "The stadium is fine" "The budget is good" "The training facilities are fine & better than Sheffield Wednesday's" A year ago, he was joyous at his first chance to be a manager. Suddenly he's potentially throwing us under a bus because the things he said were fine last season, are suddenly not fine. Doesn't leave a nice taste in my mouth. To be fair Gassy, didn't he only respond to a question asking how far can he take this club by responding "I don't know" and then stated he had a personal decision to make after talking to his wife and kids. Nothing specifically related to the training ground, budget etc? Or have I missed something? As you know I work away a lot and it definitely puts a lot of strain on my home life. Give it a few years and I guarantee I will need to change it because I know it has a shelf life if I want to keep my relationships at home going. I wonder if this is what is driving GC in this situation. I personally don't see it as GC throwing us under a bus. If he leaves then he's left us considerably better off position-wise than when he took over a year ago. And this is coming from someone who has never quite taken to him as much as I did DC. GC deserves and has deserved more credit than he's gotten from us Gasheads. He took the job on knowing what it involved and he could choose his words more carefully after all they gave him his chance at managing.
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Post by yattongas on Dec 15, 2019 10:53:56 GMT
Let’s hope whatever his decision is it’s made today. It would be profoundly unfair to leave the club and fans in limbo for days. He’s either all in or gone by 6pm today IMO.
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Post by stapletongas on Dec 15, 2019 10:57:02 GMT
Obviously bad taste to speculate in this regard, but maybe someone in the family had a health scare etc. Made him realise life is too short and change his priorities. Or his wife has finally reached breaking point etc. There are things that could have happened that make the fact he's been doing it for the last 8+ years irrelevant I guess. Nonsense just read the B Post article, it's down to the playing budget lack of training ground etc. Well that must be accurate then! 🙄
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Post by Gassy on Dec 15, 2019 10:58:47 GMT
I believe he actually said "The stadium is fine" "The budget is good" "The training facilities are fine & better than Sheffield Wednesday's" A year ago, he was joyous at his first chance to be a manager. Suddenly he's potentially throwing us under a bus because the things he said were fine last season, are suddenly not fine. Doesn't leave a nice taste in my mouth. To be fair Gassy, didn't he only respond to a question asking how far can he take this club by responding "I don't know" and then stated he had a personal decision to make after talking to his wife and kids. Nothing specifically related to the training ground, budget etc? Or have I missed something? As you know I work away a lot and it definitely puts a lot of strain on my home life. Give it a few years and I guarantee I will need to change it because I know it has a shelf life if I want to keep my relationships at home going. I wonder if this is what is driving GC in this situation. I personally don't see it as GC throwing us under a bus. If he leaves then he's left us considerably better off position-wise than when he took over a year ago. And this is coming from someone who has never quite taken to him as much as I did DC. GC deserves and has deserved more credit than he's gotten from us Gasheads. It's the timeline in which things happened, that I don't like tbh. I'm taking the info about the facilities & budget from the BEP, which I do admit isn't always a useful source, but they seem to be very specific in their writing on this occasion. Personally, I'd have less of a problem if the timeline went this way: - Rovers big win - Coughlan talks about the victory, great team etc - Mansfield sack manager - Mansfield approach Rovers - Rovers accept - GC leaves & states family reasons I think whilst we'd be upset, we'd all understand. Instead, we have: - Rovers big win - Coughlan says he's thinking of leaving, he will decide tomorrow - Coughlan apparently tells players he's leaving 10 minutes later - Coughlan apparently going to Mansfield - Mansfield still have a manager - Mansfield sack their manager - Mansfield approach Rovers & it's rejected - News comes out he's not happy with budget & training facilities It could come out that the timeline is wrong, but as it stands it seems like he's illegally held talks with Mansfield so it certainly feels to me we're being throw under the bus atm.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Dec 15, 2019 11:02:08 GMT
So what are the facts GC's contract ? I know that they are not worth that much but surely he cannot leave to go to another team without compensation ? Facts? On Gaschat? Seriously? I know ~ desperate times
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 11:07:15 GMT
Do find it funny he said the budget is good, considering he's spent £0 on transfer fees in two transfer windows The budget doesn’t just cover transfer fees though does it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 11:14:02 GMT
To be fair Gassy, didn't he only respond to a question asking how far can he take this club by responding "I don't know" and then stated he had a personal decision to make after talking to his wife and kids. Nothing specifically related to the training ground, budget etc? Or have I missed something? As you know I work away a lot and it definitely puts a lot of strain on my home life. Give it a few years and I guarantee I will need to change it because I know it has a shelf life if I want to keep my relationships at home going. I wonder if this is what is driving GC in this situation. I personally don't see it as GC throwing us under a bus. If he leaves then he's left us considerably better off position-wise than when he took over a year ago. And this is coming from someone who has never quite taken to him as much as I did DC. GC deserves and has deserved more credit than he's gotten from us Gasheads. It's the timeline in which things happened, that I don't like tbh. I'm taking the info about the facilities & budget from the BEP, which I do admit isn't always a useful source, but they seem to be very specific in their writing on this occasion. Personally, I'd have less of a problem if the timeline went this way: - Rovers big win - Coughlan talks about the victory, great team etc - Mansfield sack manager - Mansfield approach Rovers - Rovers accept - GC leaves & states family reasons I think whilst we'd be upset, we'd all understand. Instead, we have: - Rovers big win - Coughlan says he's thinking of leaving, he will decide tomorrow - Coughlan apparently tells players he's leaving 10 minutes later - Coughlan apparently going to Mansfield - Mansfield still have a manager - Mansfield sack their manager - Mansfield approach Rovers & it's rejected - News comes out he's not happy with budget & training facilities It could come out that the timeline is wrong, but as it stands it seems like he's illegally held talks with Mansfield so it certainly feels to me we're being throw under the bus atm. Happens all the time, it’s an accepted part of the game. You won’t see talks break down between them because Mansfield will already have an idea of whether they can afford him. For them to sack their manager means they think a deal is on and *now* they can make the formal approach. None of this is happening without being well planned out in advance.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Dec 15, 2019 11:15:15 GMT
Well at least we may get some sort of statement from the Board where we go from here as in stark contrast to all the political hot air recently,they never tell us a thing. NB.Sunday Times claiming Mansfield could announce GC appointment today.
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