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Post by yategasman on Apr 19, 2019 18:38:11 GMT
I hope both us and Argyle stay up as it is a great weekend away!😜
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Apr 19, 2019 18:43:24 GMT
Great point, I'm sure we'd have all taken being 5 points clear of trouble with 3 games to go before ko.
I don't understand some of the criticism of GC's tactics listening to his post match interview the selections & to a certain extent the subs were picked both to combat Wimbledon's style of play & with Mondays game in mind. He's said from the very start it wouldn't be pretty, we're grinding out results & slowly inching our way to safety. I get the impression once we're safe we'll see us play with a lot more freedom, hopefully after Monday we get to see what that's like !!!
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Post by rememberhalifax on Apr 19, 2019 18:49:44 GMT
Great goal line clearance by Craig, could keep us up that!
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Post by RD on Apr 19, 2019 18:54:24 GMT
We're safe now - bookies think so too - 200/1 to be relegated
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Post by mehewmagic on Apr 19, 2019 18:58:23 GMT
L1 going to be a tough gig next year with Ipswich and Bolton coming down and maybe Sunderland or Portsmouth still here. Whilst I realise there is a huge gulf, in general, between LGE 1 & championship, I've seen both Bolton & Ippo play this year and both genuinely are basket case clubs at the moment. Of course they could be turned around but honestly, if either think they will walk LGE 1 they have a real shock on their hands. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 19, 2019 19:06:28 GMT
We're safe now - bookies think so too - 200/1 to be relegated 300/1 with a couple of bookies. While I think it is unlikely, that seems overpriced. Admittedly, I haven't worked out all the possible scenarios though, so it must almost be impossible? |
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Post by mehewmagic on Apr 19, 2019 19:07:16 GMT
Great point, I'm sure we'd have all taken being 5 points clear of trouble with 3 games to go before ko. I don't understand some of the criticism of GC's tactics listening to his post match interview the selections & to a certain extent the subs were picked both to combat Wimbledon's style of play & with Mondays game in mind. He's said from the very start it wouldn't be pretty, we're grinding out results & slowly inching our way to safety. I get the impression once we're safe we'll see us play with a lot more freedom, hopefully after Monday we get to see what that's like !!! Not sure about the last bit, but totally agree on the rest. People talk far too much about luck, JCH one man band, etc. I think GC has been very hard done by, by the internet clan. How we would have died for this sort of form in post new year 2014, 2010, 2001... Even 2002, 2003... Even DC - I loved him but hell he couldn't get a draw when we needed it, let alone a win. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 19:07:43 GMT
Good point in the end, but why did we start with that strange selection and leave it so late to change it? God knows. I seem to be constantly looking and Cogs selections and saying this is going to be awful and it usually is but he’s picking up the points. I really hope we start next season more positive though. Having said that if he starts next season the way he’s been going and it works as well as it has up until now then we’ll finish top half. One thing I really want in the summer is to replace lines though. Not having a playmaker is killing us creatively. Stick a load of ball winners around him by all means Cogs but you’ve got to have someone who can create something. Can’t rely on Harris or Olly to score from nothing every week next season. Absolutely right. Do you think we need to replace Linesy because you think he's finished or because GC just doesn't seem to rate him? I still think he has a year or two at this level and would like him to stay. However, I agree that if the manager doesn't think that then he has to replace him with a playmaker. We are terrible to watch without one. |
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Post by axegas on Apr 19, 2019 19:13:40 GMT
Great point, I'm sure we'd have all taken being 5 points clear of trouble with 3 games to go before ko. I don't understand some of the criticism of GC's tactics listening to his post match interview the selections & to a certain extent the subs were picked both to combat Wimbledon's style of play & with Mondays game in mind. He's said from the very start it wouldn't be pretty, we're grinding out results & slowly inching our way to safety. I get the impression once we're safe we'll see us play with a lot more freedom, hopefully after Monday we get to see what that's like !!! Not sure about the last bit, but totally agree on the rest. People talk far too much about luck, JCH one man band, etc. I think GC has been very hard done by, by the internet clan. How we would have died for this sort of form in post new year 2014, 2010, 2001... Even 2002, 2003... Even DC - I loved him but hell he couldn't get a draw when we needed it, let alone a win. It's the hard fought, ugly draws away from home at places like Coventry, Wimbledon and Plymouth that have managed to keep us up this year. GC has turned us into a team that is hard to beat and it has made all the difference. |
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Post by singupgas on Apr 19, 2019 19:16:05 GMT
God knows. I seem to be constantly looking and Cogs selections and saying this is going to be awful and it usually is but he’s picking up the points. I really hope we start next season more positive though. Having said that if he starts next season the way he’s been going and it works as well as it has up until now then we’ll finish top half. One thing I really want in the summer is to replace lines though. Not having a playmaker is killing us creatively. Stick a load of ball winners around him by all means Cogs but you’ve got to have someone who can create something. Can’t rely on Harris or Olly to score from nothing every week next season. Absolutely right. Do you think we need to replace Linesy because you think he's finished or because GC just doesn't seem to rate him? I still think he has a year or two at this level and would like him to stay. However, I agree that if the manager doesn't think that then he has to replace him with a playmaker. We are terrible to watch without one. I wish gc wouldn't experiment too much, at this time, let just get over the line with our trousers pulled up. We need to be going into the last game at least 4 points clear. Why take even the slightest risk by changing things? |
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Post by axegas on Apr 19, 2019 19:38:48 GMT
Absolutely right. Do you think we need to replace Linesy because you think he's finished or because GC just doesn't seem to rate him? I still think he has a year or two at this level and would like him to stay. However, I agree that if the manager doesn't think that then he has to replace him with a playmaker. We are terrible to watch without one. I wish gc wouldn't experiment too much, at this time, let just get over the line with our trousers pulled up. We need to be going into the last game at least 4 points clear. Why take even the slightest risk by changing things? Perhaps to not become predictable and to make the full use of the squad at his disposal? It worked today, we looked more solid with 5 at the back then with 4 at the back at Bradford, only mistake was to play Parts at RB, I would have played J Clarke there and put Kilgour in at CB. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 19:43:41 GMT
So, IF we win on Monday, and any two of Wimbledon, Southend and Scunthorpe drop points....we're safe barring a mathmatical miracle.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Apr 19, 2019 19:47:47 GMT
I have been a critic of Tony Craig; however, I am prepared to eat my words, today Craig was immense today; however, I did feel for Partington, playing him as right-wing back was a disaster, thank **** Rodders came on in the second half and going to a back three with Sercombe also coming on for Trariq, made us a lot better in midfield, again although Ollie score a wonder goal, for me JCH was tremendous, leading line and winning so many aimless balls, tremendous signing.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Apr 19, 2019 19:50:09 GMT
So, IF we win on Monday, and any two of Wimbledon, Southend and Scunthorpe drop points....we're safe barring a mathmatical miracle. I think. Definitely need to do it Monday, as we cannot rely on getting any points against either Fleetwood or Barnsley. |
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Post by neilv93 on Apr 19, 2019 20:52:38 GMT
Didn't go to the game, watch on iFollow and nor have I fully read the previous ten pages of this thread but I'm delighted I'm unbeaten in two as creator  However, could someone please advise on how we set up? Looked like 5-3-2 on paper, in which case I'm delighted but how did we look etc.? |
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Post by socrates on Apr 19, 2019 21:06:42 GMT
God knows. I seem to be constantly looking and Cogs selections and saying this is going to be awful and it usually is but he’s picking up the points. I really hope we start next season more positive though. Having said that if he starts next season the way he’s been going and it works as well as it has up until now then we’ll finish top half. One thing I really want in the summer is to replace lines though. Not having a playmaker is killing us creatively. Stick a load of ball winners around him by all means Cogs but you’ve got to have someone who can create something. Can’t rely on Harris or Olly to score from nothing every week next season. Absolutely right. Do you think we need to replace Linesy because you think he's finished or because GC just doesn't seem to rate him? I still think he has a year or two at this level and would like him to stay. However, I agree that if the manager doesn't think that then he has to replace him with a playmaker. We are terrible to watch without one. I honestly don’t know, I’ve heard everything from fellow supporters who have said pretty much everything from fallen out with Cogs to having personal problems which I was told today, but to be fair that side of it is none of our business so i won’t go in to what was said, these blokes are people not just players and Chris lines is a legend in my eyes for dropping two divisions and coming back to us while we were in the conference and creating goal after goal for the last four years. Learned how to get stuck in too, under DC. Wouldn’t have kept his place in the side if he hadn’t. I think he would have made a massive difference this season even in a compact midfield like we’ve been playing recently, lines as an attacking playmaker probably would have made more of an impact than Liam’s made this season in terms of creating chances. Liam has only scored one goal this season I think and doesn’t create much for others even last season when he was on fire he was a head down two or three touches and shoot kind of player. This to me tells the story of why we’ve struggled so much going forward this season. Sercombe looks half the player he was last season and Chris lines is whatever the situation is I dont know but we haven’t had our top assists player from the last four years suddenly and when you lose that so quickly and all your other midfielders are gritty players who will run through walls but haven’t got that killer ball your bound to miss it. Few attacking options in midfield . Fair play to olly though another cracking finish from out of nowhere. Thing is if your relying on hard graft and world class goals then the chances are you’ll struggle over a season. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 21:09:08 GMT
I was there today. First 60 mins were v poor. GC got the shape, tactics and team selection wrong. Dons were no great shakes and had GC made changes at HT (or before), moved to a flat back four and brought Rodders on sooner, then we could have pushed on for three points. We needed width and midfield bite. My fear is with GC manager next season, we will be in a similar struggle to this season. He should only have been made interim manager with a decent bonus for keeping us up. We are at least five players (and a decent manager) short of having a squad that can challenge for the playoffs.
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Post by allgasandgaiters on Apr 19, 2019 21:10:42 GMT
We're safe now - bookies think so too - 200/1 to be relegated 300/1 with a couple of bookies. While I think it is unlikely, that seems overpriced. Admittedly, I haven't worked out all the possible scenarios though, so it must almost be impossible? I think .... If we lose all our games And all around us win all of theirs Except where they play each other and I assume the lower placed team wins Then we need 3 points, to be above Southend and Muff on GD, with Walsall and Wycscum below us also. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 21:11:58 GMT
Absolutely right. Do you think we need to replace Linesy because you think he's finished or because GC just doesn't seem to rate him? I still think he has a year or two at this level and would like him to stay. However, I agree that if the manager doesn't think that then he has to replace him with a playmaker. We are terrible to watch without one. I honestly don’t know, I’ve heard everything from fellow supporters who have said pretty much everything from fallen out with Cogs to having personal problems which I was told today, but to be fair that side of it is none of our business so i won’t go in to what was said, these blokes are people not just players and Chris lines is a legend in my eyes for dropping two divisions and coming back to us while we were in the conference and creating goal after goal for the last four years. Learned how to get stuck in too, under DC. Wouldn’t have kept his place in the side if he hadn’t. I think he would have made a massive difference this season even in a compact midfield like we’ve been playing recently, lines as an attacking playmaker probably would have made more of an impact than Liam’s made this season in terms of creating chances. Liam has only scored one goal this season I think and doesn’t create much for others even last season when he was on fire he was a head down two or three touches and shoot kind of player. This to me tells the story of why we’ve struggled so much going forward this season. Sercombe looks half the player he was last season and Chris lines is whatever the situation is I dont know but we haven’t had our top assists player from the last four years suddenly and when you lose that so quickly and all your other midfielders are gritty players who will run through walls but haven’t got that killer ball your bound to miss it. Few attacking options in midfield . Fair play to olly though another cracking finish from out of nowhere. Thing is if your relying on hard graft and world class goals then the chances are you’ll struggle over a season. Wouldn't disagree with any of that. We miss both Lines and the 2017-18 vintage Sercombe. Very good point about Lines learning to mix it under DC too. Not natural to him by any means, but he did it. Like you, I have huge respect for the bloke for dropping down when we needed him. |
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Post by socrates on Apr 19, 2019 21:15:25 GMT
Didn't go to the game, watch on iFollow and nor have I fully read the previous ten pages of this thread but I'm delighted I'm unbeaten in two as creator However, could someone please advise on how we set up? Looked like 5-3-2 on paper, in which case I'm delighted but how did we look etc.? Congratulations on your winning match day thread. We did set up 5-3-2 we were awful in it. Partington is definitely not an attacking wingback , msybe in the conference but definitely not this level. Cogs changed it with about 20 mins left and straight away we kept the ball on the floor and were the better side, scored and probably would have won it had it been a cup game / extra time. We have got some good creative footballers in this squad , Nichols sercombe lines Holmes-Dennis and we’ve got some real grafters , James Clarke , Sinclair, Lockyer, Craig , all good examples of these but it’s all about getting the balance right. The first 70 minutes today the balance was awful but the changes improved it. I don’t think we’ve lost a game yet when Harris and Nichols have started together up front. I hope we start with those two Monday. |
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