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Post by Russgas on Mar 30, 2019 20:01:49 GMT
A very decent set of results for us today, I think. Oxford in the last minute did us a favour. Wimbledon now looking likely to make their great escape. Said it before but I think seven points keeps us up. Beat Bradford and Rochdale at home (both awful) and knick a point somewhere else and I think we'll be playing L1 football next season. Also, Wimbledon - fair play to them. Seemed dead and buried. I think six points keeps us up looking at the table. We are 3 pts better off with a superior goal difference, that would require a 10 point shift to catch/overtake us with just six games left. Has anybody looked at the fixtures of the teams below us...it ain't gonna happen. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 30, 2019 20:13:39 GMT
Not the end of the world against top of the table. We remain as we started the day, 3 points safe.
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Post by socrates on Mar 30, 2019 20:16:14 GMT
Sercombe was really poor today , half arsed approach to everything he did. I’d start lines in his place next home game. We need creativity. This. Unfortunately, Coughlan doesn't seem to want creative players, preferring to have a team of battlers in his own mould. That's all well and good as we are in a battle, but if you don't create, you don't score goals. It needs that balance but letting Bennett and to a point, Matthews, go and not playing Lines doesn't bode well for me. Yeah I like the defensive screen in front of the back four but if you’ve got three defensive midfielders there then you’ve got to have Sinclair . He will come out and close a player down and win the ball, our current midfield three sit deep and play passes through them too often. Sincs will tear around winning the ball and he never gives the ball away. If we stick with the Olly , ogogo upson screen next game then fair enough it has kind of worked but drop sercombe and play Sinclair as an attacking midfielder . DC did it a few times and he was brilliant there. Gateshead in non league , Swindon and MK dons both times more recently. He also gave Chelsea’s defensive midfielders a sh** time in an attacking battling role pressing them . Clarke Harris would have loved that kind of support today instead he had Sercombe who appears to have his head well and truly up his arse and offering pretty much f**k all all season. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 20:19:28 GMT
Not the end of the world against top of the table. We remain as we started the day, 3 points safe. Absolutely. Still 3 points clear but a game closer to the end of the season. |
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 30, 2019 20:28:20 GMT
There were many many angry folk around me today (as per usual it seems) on the East side but sometimes you have to hold your hand up and say they had too much for us today. They were strong, organised, had quality & experience all over the pitch, with that annoying ‘streetwise’ edge to their game also. You can call it timewasting cheats if you wish. I didn’t think we played badly however, the usual suspects didn’t really rise to previous levels (Sercombe & Ollie C in the main) without actually being that poor. I thought Upson & Tony Craig were very good & give me Nichols over Jacubiak for a start every single time. I just felt they had an answer to everything we tried to do & sensed any danger 10mins before it arrived. What you expect from the runway leaders & champions elect I guess. I’m not too downbeat, nor were Mrs H or our friends. This wasn’t ever going to be season defining stuff, for me that begins at Coventry. Three points ahead & still an excellent goal difference to hold in the back pocket. See you at the Ricoh. Spot on Huddy. I think Luton were just better at playing the diamond purely because they have attacking full-backs and a creative playmaker in the hole. I think when THD is back and if we can upgrade RB (James Clarke is always a solid 7/10 and an excellent squad player at worse) then it'll suit us to the core. I think a draw wouldn't have been too undeserved based on how we grew into the game/second half but they were definitely the better team and you can see why they're going up. Good for them, too. |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 30, 2019 20:32:05 GMT
Luton, 27 games unbeaten, just edge a victory over us, who are fighting a relegation battle. Forum implodes! Perspective needed. A run of far more winnable games now and we will see what we are really made of. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 20:32:50 GMT
I hereby tender my resignation from the match day thread.
I tried my hardest today but badly let down by a totally ineffective midfield, what Sercombe and Ollie Clarke we're up to today is beyond me.
Ogogo was acceptable and Upson was the best of the midfield today in my book.
Let's hope we can get enough points to survive and then hopefully GC can bring in a commanding experienced centrehalf to replace Craig and play alongside Kilgour with Lockyer off to pastures new. In addition a couple of creative midfielders and a striker to play alongside JCH, will do nicely.
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Post by Blueside on Mar 30, 2019 20:35:04 GMT
There were many many angry folk around me today (as per usual it seems) on the East side but sometimes you have to hold your hand up and say they had too much for us today. They were strong, organised, had quality & experience all over the pitch, with that annoying ‘streetwise’ edge to their game also. You can call it timewasting cheats if you wish. I didn’t think we played badly however, the usual suspects didn’t really rise to previous levels (Sercombe & Ollie C in the main) without actually being that poor. I thought Upson & Tony Craig were very good & give me Nichols over Jacubiak for a start every single time. I just felt they had an answer to everything we tried to do & sensed any danger 10mins before it arrived. What you expect from the runway leaders & champions elect I guess. I’m not too downbeat, nor were Mrs H or our friends. This wasn’t ever going to be season defining stuff, for me that begins at Coventry. Three points ahead & still an excellent goal difference to hold in the back pocket. See you at the Ricoh. Good grief you must stand near me, a line of “al fellas” standing behind me did everything they could to slag off the team for 90 minutes, constantly coming out with some proper fan belters. Gets right on my tits that does, especially when they can’t bring themselves to praise anything we did well. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 20:37:52 GMT
Thought he left his cards at home, until he miraculously found them for Sercombe. How many times I see it at this level where the opposing team fouls so often & the ref is trying not to book anyone. He gets so wind up by the constant fouling that as soon as we then foul, it’s an immediate yellow Exactly what GHB predicted after ten minutes and as we all saw it came to pass. Thought the referee was very poor and definately favoured the league leaders. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 30, 2019 20:46:23 GMT
There were many many angry folk around me today (as per usual it seems) on the East side but sometimes you have to hold your hand up and say they had too much for us today. They were strong, organised, had quality & experience all over the pitch, with that annoying ‘streetwise’ edge to their game also. You can call it timewasting cheats if you wish. I didn’t think we played badly however, the usual suspects didn’t really rise to previous levels (Sercombe & Ollie C in the main) without actually being that poor. I thought Upson & Tony Craig were very good & give me Nichols over Jacubiak for a start every single time. I just felt they had an answer to everything we tried to do & sensed any danger 10mins before it arrived. What you expect from the runway leaders & champions elect I guess. I’m not too downbeat, nor were Mrs H or our friends. This wasn’t ever going to be season defining stuff, for me that begins at Coventry. Three points ahead & still an excellent goal difference to hold in the back pocket. See you at the Ricoh. Good grief you must stand near me, a line of “al fellas” standing behind me did everything they could to slag off the team for 90 minutes, constantly coming out with some proper fan belters. Gets right on my tits that does, especially when they can’t bring themselves to praise anything we did well. At one point I wanted to ask the guy in front of me if he was there to actually support or if he would be more comfortable sat in a pub watching sky sports. Support is not slagging off your players, especially against top of the league. |
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Post by Hudson1883 on Mar 30, 2019 20:47:40 GMT
There were many many angry folk around me today (as per usual it seems) on the East side but sometimes you have to hold your hand up and say they had too much for us today. They were strong, organised, had quality & experience all over the pitch, with that annoying ‘streetwise’ edge to their game also. You can call it timewasting cheats if you wish. I didn’t think we played badly however, the usual suspects didn’t really rise to previous levels (Sercombe & Ollie C in the main) without actually being that poor. I thought Upson & Tony Craig were very good & give me Nichols over Jacubiak for a start every single time. I just felt they had an answer to everything we tried to do & sensed any danger 10mins before it arrived. What you expect from the runway leaders & champions elect I guess. I’m not too downbeat, nor were Mrs H or our friends. This wasn’t ever going to be season defining stuff, for me that begins at Coventry. Three points ahead & still an excellent goal difference to hold in the back pocket. See you at the Ricoh. Good grief you must stand near me, a line of “al fellas” standing behind me did everything they could to slag off the team for 90 minutes, constantly coming out with some proper fan belters. Gets right on my tits that does, especially when they can’t bring themselves to praise anything we did well. Rovers fan bingo near us includes: “FOR *S SAKE” “Bloody rubbish Ollie” “That’s it, *ing pass it back again” And a personal favourite.... “Someone bloody chase it down!” (When a pass has sailed through to the opppsing keeper with no Rovers shirt within 40 yards of the ball) To be honest it was no better when I stood on the West terrace for years. There are certainly some special breeds who roam the Memorial Stadium, that’s for sure. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 20:47:50 GMT
For me luton were the opposite of the traditional big strong league one side.
They played it on the deck,worked the ball wide and were full of pace with their smaller players and the full backs full of running and quality.
Even when they crossed the ball they were near or on the byeline and usually tried to play into the box on the deck.
Reminded me of sheffield united from 3 seasons ago.
We just trundle around and hope clarke-harris can do something and we hardly ever get into truly dangerous crossing positions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 20:48:58 GMT
Think Upson has actually been our best midfielder since GC took over. Think he is often unfairly over criticised in comparison to performances by others. Without a doubt he has been, as for Ollie Clarke and Sercombe, it's anybody's guess what they have been trying to do. Today in my opinion they both managed to put in totally disinterested performances and it was only Upson and Ogogo that managed to stop our midfield from being totally overrun. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 20:50:46 GMT
Not a single fit player comfortable attacking down the flanks and only 2 at the club at all. Were so pedestrian in midfield. I actually believe we will get relegated. 24hrs ago you were saying we might stay up, today we lose 2-1 to the runaway leaders and we're relegated. Makes sense. If you quoted the whole "might stay up" post you would see that it was not at all optimistic. But you knew that already,probably. Unless your thick? |
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Post by wilkimania on Mar 30, 2019 20:59:36 GMT
The East Terrace was on fine form today, at one point Ollie Clarke mislaid a pass to which a bloke the row behind starts yelling "One goal in 70 Nichols, you're ****". When I pointed out to him that was Ollie Clarke, his response was "Well I'll let him off that one, he's been our best player today". I'm mystified by the match some people watch. That being said I thought Tom had a poor game up front today, not helped by a referee ignored elbows, headlocks and shirt pulling so bad it would make a Sunday league game blush. That being said though Ollie Clarke and Sercombe were dire today. After 10 minutes it was obvious that Luton's fullbacks were going to push forward and work the overlap and yet we didn't manage to figure that out ourselves until we were 2-0 down.
Still got to witness one of the best team goals we've scored this season and Ed Upson is starting to show the class he's often showed against us.
I think Luton are the prototype of what Graham probably wants to play next season. Organised diamond in the midfield with two quick full backs who can overlap and whip balls in.
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Post by spiess1 on Mar 30, 2019 21:04:38 GMT
''....A game sat on the bench might be the kick up the arse he needs.....''
Sercs had one of those at Donny, socrates.
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Post by socrates on Mar 30, 2019 21:06:31 GMT
Luton, 27 games unbeaten, just edge a victory over us, who are fighting a relegation battle. Forum implodes! Perspective needed. A run of far more winnable games now and we will see what we are really made of. UTG! Yeah some on here implode but I think most of us can see that Cogs is getting the best out of an average squad and the fact that we’ve won more than we’ve lost under him proves that. We’re always going to have a meltdown on here after a defeat on here no matter what the circumstances are. We were going in to free fall before he took over and now every game I think it’s 50/50 and to be fair Cogs has even got this team punching above that. We’ve won more than we’ve lost since he’s taken over and if we can take that in to the last six games then we stay up. It’s as simple as that. If we achieve that then he’s massively succeeded and if we don’t then he’s failed but there’s no doubt about it in my mind we’ve been much better this season since Graham Coughlan has been our manager. No disrespect meant to DC who is a legend in my eyes but the change needed to be made and probably should have been made sooner and if it had only been 3-4 weeks sooner we wouldn’t be looking over our shoulder now because this squad shouldn’t be getting relegated. UTG. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2019 21:09:14 GMT
24hrs ago you were saying we might stay up, today we lose 2-1 to the runaway leaders and we're relegated. Makes sense. If you quoted the whole "might stay up" post you would see that it was not at all optimistic. But you knew that already,probably. Unless your thick? So because we narrowly lost to the run away league leaders you've gone from "might stay up" to "we'll get relegated", given we're 3pts clear of the bottom 4, most likely 4 pts with our GD, we really just need to win one home game and pick up points in most of the other games to avoid the drop, if we can't manage that then we deserve to go down. |
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Post by socrates on Mar 30, 2019 21:12:24 GMT
''....A game sat on the bench might be the kick up the arse he needs.....''Sercs had one of those at Donny, socrates. And another today. Get lines in for a game in that position although he probably won’t be able to play the full 90. Then bring on sercombe for last 20 -30 minutes for lines and see the difference in Sercs. Some players get a bit ahead of themselves and think once they’ve had a good season there’s nothing to prove. From looking at sercombes history with oxford and now us there’s a pattern forming. Coughlan seems the sort to weed those types out. I think it’s time to call out sercombe. |
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 30, 2019 21:14:51 GMT
The East Terrace was on fine form today, at one point Ollie Clarke mislaid a pass to which a bloke the row behind starts yelling "One goal in 70 Nichols, you're ****". When I pointed out to him that was Ollie Clarke, his response was "Well I'll let him off that one, he's been our best player today". I'm mystified by the match some people watch. That being said I thought Tom had a poor game up front today, not helped by a referee ignored elbows, headlocks and shirt pulling so bad it would make a Sunday league game blush. That being said though Ollie Clarke and Sercombe were dire today. After 10 minutes it was obvious that Luton's fullbacks were going to push forward and work the overlap and yet we didn't manage to figure that out ourselves until we were 2-0 down. Still got to witness one of the best team goals we've scored this season and Ed Upson is starting to show the class he's often showed against us. I think Luton are the prototype of what Graham probably wants to play next season. Organised diamond in the midfield with two quick full backs who can overlap and whip balls in. East Stand is ridiculous for this crap. Two blokes literally started shouting at each other "WELL ITS ONLY MY OPINION!" blah blah blah, booing Nichols when he came off, constantly demanding Sinclair... painful to listen to at times. |
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