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Post by pirate on Nov 25, 2018 13:15:22 GMT
"My number one target if we are strengthening the defence would still be Israel Puerto though. An outstanding player and one that could easily make us money in the future too." Seriously you'd gamble our Div 1 status on a 25 yr player who's never played outside Spain? Plus he's only 6'1" according to wiki so hardly the dominant CH we really seem to need. Having seen him 7 or 8 times now, yes I would. He's better than anything we have and could play in the Championship from what I've seen. He is 1.88m, so closer to 6ft 2in. Regardless of his height, he is good in the air actually and times his jumps well. Strong, quick, calm on the ball and can pick a pass. If you watch him you can see why he has appeared in La Liga and La Liga2 and represented Spain at five different age groups.
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Post by straighouttabristol on Nov 25, 2018 13:51:28 GMT
"My number one target if we are strengthening the defence would still be Israel Puerto though. An outstanding player and one that could easily make us money in the future too." Seriously you'd gamble our Div 1 status on a 25 yr player who's never played outside Spain? Plus he's only 6'1" according to wiki so hardly the dominant CH we really seem to need. Having seen him 7 or 8 times now, yes I would. He's better than anything we have and could play in the Championship from what I've seen. He is 1.88m, so closer to 6ft 2in. Regardless of his height, he is good in the air actually and times his jumps well. Strong, quick, calm on the ball and can pick a pass. If you watch him you can see why he has appeared in La Liga and La Liga2 and represented Spain at five different age groups. To big a risk though and how many signings from Europe’s lower leagues to ours are successful? Broghammer played youth football for Germany but wasn’t any better than what we had and going from a tactical league to a physical religation battle for a centre back is high risk.
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Post by pirate on Nov 25, 2018 14:03:51 GMT
Having seen him 7 or 8 times now, yes I would. He's better than anything we have and could play in the Championship from what I've seen. He is 1.88m, so closer to 6ft 2in. Regardless of his height, he is good in the air actually and times his jumps well. Strong, quick, calm on the ball and can pick a pass. If you watch him you can see why he has appeared in La Liga and La Liga2 and represented Spain at five different age groups. To big a risk though and how many signings from Europe’s lower leagues to ours are successful? Broghammer played youth football for Germany but wasn’t any better than what we had and going from a tactical league to a physical religation battle for a centre back is high risk. With his quality, a risk worth taking.
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Post by straighouttabristol on Nov 25, 2018 17:37:45 GMT
To big a risk though and how many signings from Europe’s lower leagues to ours are successful? Broghammer played youth football for Germany but wasn’t any better than what we had and going from a tactical league to a physical religation battle for a centre back is high risk. With his quality, a risk worth taking. It would ruin him going from a technical division to a relegation battle where he’ll get battered by bruisers every game what we need now is a big old school cub who’ll win every thing in the air then in the summer give someone like that ago to settle in over pre season learn the English game.
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Post by pirate on Nov 25, 2018 18:20:07 GMT
With his quality, a risk worth taking. It would ruin him going from a technical division to a relegation battle where he’ll get battered by bruisers every game what we need now is a big old school cub who’ll win every thing in the air then in the summer give someone like that ago to settle in over pre season learn the English game. Having watched a bit of Spanish 3rd tier football I wouldn't say It is much more technical than our 3rd tier. You have to look at it on an individual basis and i don't think he would get battered by bruisers with his physical attributes from what I've seen, if anything he'll be the one dominating them and winning everything in the air. The best time would probably would be in the summer, but if the opportunity presented itself this window I wouldn't hesitate to bring him over. He's out of contract in the summer when there will be more competition for his signature.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 20:06:48 GMT
Repeat of the Barnsley performance,far too pedestrian and never looked like scoring 2nd half when we were supposedly chasing the game.
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Post by pirate on Nov 25, 2018 23:24:44 GMT
Repeat of the Barnsley performance,far too pedestrian and never looked like scoring 2nd half when we were supposedly chasing the game. I don't think many expected us to get a result at either ground. The next two league games against Gillingham and Doncaster is a different story and are massive now. The players need to step up to the plate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 7:42:02 GMT
Repeat of the Barnsley performance,far too pedestrian and never looked like scoring 2nd half when we were supposedly chasing the game. I don't think many expected us to get a result at either ground. The next two league games against Gillingham and Doncaster is a different story and are massive now. The players need to step up to the plate. Alright too say the players need to step up to the plate so does the manager with team selection and formation win lose or draw v Gillingham and you can bet v Doncaster 3/4 changes,believe you me they don’t know whether they are coming or going causing unrest in the camp.
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Post by Fetch on Nov 26, 2018 12:18:46 GMT
"My number one target if we are strengthening the defence would still be Israel Puerto though. An outstanding player and one that could easily make us money in the future too." Seriously you'd gamble our Div 1 status on a 25 yr player who's never played outside Spain? Plus he's only 6'1" according to wiki so hardly the dominant CH we really seem to need. Having seen him 7 or 8 times now, yes I would. He's better than anything we have and could play in the Championship from what I've seen. He is 1.88m, so closer to 6ft 2in. Regardless of his height, he is good in the air actually and times his jumps well. Strong, quick, calm on the ball and can pick a pass. If you watch him you can see why he has appeared in La Liga and La Liga2 and represented Spain at five different age groups. We're never going to go for a player like that though Pirate, regardless of if they're good enough or not. DC isn't going to take a risk on someone who's not played in England, and may have (I might be wrongly assuming) limited or no english. If we are going for a CB, it will likely be a proven L1/L2 type of player.
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Post by pirate on Nov 26, 2018 12:36:28 GMT
Having seen him 7 or 8 times now, yes I would. He's better than anything we have and could play in the Championship from what I've seen. He is 1.88m, so closer to 6ft 2in. Regardless of his height, he is good in the air actually and times his jumps well. Strong, quick, calm on the ball and can pick a pass. If you watch him you can see why he has appeared in La Liga and La Liga2 and represented Spain at five different age groups. We're never going to go for a player like that though Pirate, regardless of if they're good enough or not. DC isn't going to take a risk on someone who's not played in England, and may have (I might be wrongly assuming) limited or no english. If we are going for a CB, it will likely be a proven L1/L2 type of player. We probably won't, but we should be prepared to do it if the player fits the bill. If we are just searching these islands then we are limiting ourselves to the options available. There are definitely players abroad that would suit the English lower leagues and could even prove better value than a player over here of similar quality. The wages and transfer fees in the bottom two divisions in England can be ridiculous for players that have only had one good season.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 26, 2018 12:57:48 GMT
We're never going to go for a player like that though Pirate, regardless of if they're good enough or not. DC isn't going to take a risk on someone who's not played in England, and may have (I might be wrongly assuming) limited or no english. If we are going for a CB, it will likely be a proven L1/L2 type of player. We probably won't, but we should be prepared to do it if the player fits the bill. If we are just searching these islands then we are limiting ourselves to the options available. There are definitely players abroad that would suit the English lower leagues and could even prove better value than a player over here of similar quality. The wages and transfer fees in the bottom two divisions in England can be ridiculous for players that have only had one good season.
Agree with this 100%.
English players are too expensive these days in terms of wages and transfer fees. There are risks involved with signing overseas players, as we found out, but you will have risks with signing any player.
A lot of overseas players in the lower leagues get overlooked, presumably for the risks involved but I know English football is admired so many of them would relocate over here. Football is a universal language so even if they don't speak English well, or even at all, it shouldn't stop us considering this avenue.
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