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Post by francegas on May 3, 2024 12:45:57 GMT
Tories getting a kicking but whispers that Khan might be in trouble in London ( which will please France immensely!) . 500 seats lost…. The Champagne is on ice. Here's hoping there's some truth in what you say.🤞🤞🍾🍾🥂🥂
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Post by stuart1974 on May 3, 2024 12:53:27 GMT
Three of the five declared PPCs have been Labour gains from the Conservatives.
Labour lose Oldham, supposedly a Muslim protest against Labour's Gaza stance.
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Post by stuart1974 on May 3, 2024 16:23:55 GMT
Maybe enough for Sunak? "Assuming these changes in vote share occur uniformly across each of the newly drawn parliamentary constituencies in place for the next general election, Labour wins 294 seats and would overtake the Conservatives - but falls 32 seats short of gaining an overall majority. The Conservatives fall from 372 seats on the new boundaries to just 242 seats, a projected loss of 130 seats. The Liberal Democrats rise from eight to 38 seats. As is usual in such projections, there are individual constituencies where the count of local votes shows a party "winning" a constituency when the uniform swing suggests otherwise." news.sky.com/story/sky-news-projection-labour-on-course-to-be-largest-party-but-short-of-overall-majority-13128242
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Post by supergas on May 4, 2024 8:44:53 GMT
Tories getting a kicking but whispers that Khan might be in trouble in London ( which will please France immensely!) . 500 seats lost…. Labour on the media rounds sound nervous that Hall might beat Khan - or at very least get within a few percentage points. He's had a 20%+ lead in most serious polls over recent months but maybe the 'shy Tories' are have once again come into play...
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Post by yattongas on May 4, 2024 8:46:51 GMT
Tories getting a kicking but whispers that Khan might be in trouble in London ( which will please France immensely!) . 500 seats lost…. Labour on the media rounds sound nervous that Hall might beat Khan - or at very least get within a few percentage points. He's had a 20%+ lead in most serious polls over recent months but maybe the 'shy Tories' are have once again come into play... More likely it’s voter apathy on behalf of Labour voters.
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Post by supergas on May 4, 2024 9:09:23 GMT
Labour on the media rounds sound nervous that Hall might beat Khan - or at very least get within a few percentage points. He's had a 20%+ lead in most serious polls over recent months but maybe the 'shy Tories' are have once again come into play... More likely it’s voter apathy on behalf of Labour voters. I thought they thought he was a great Mayor and they couldn't fill in their postal ballots quickly enough....
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Post by yattongas on May 4, 2024 9:14:12 GMT
More likely it’s voter apathy on behalf of Labour voters. I thought they thought he was a great Mayor and they couldn't fill in their postal ballots quickly enough.... I’ve no idea as I don’t live there , but as poor as he might be , as disliked as he might be …… he’ll still beat that absolute weapon the Tories put up against him .
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Post by francegas on May 4, 2024 11:52:14 GMT
I thought they thought he was a great Mayor and they couldn't fill in their postal ballots quickly enough.... I’ve no idea as I don’t live there , but as poor as he might be , as disliked as he might be …… he’ll still beat that absolute weapon the Tories put up against him . Then the votors will get what they vote for, namely....further expansion of ULEZ, pay per mile (which he denied but papers have since come to light that's what Khan is planning), increase in knife crime and murders on the street (and no Sadiq I'm not watching too much of The Wire).
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Post by oldie on May 4, 2024 13:32:32 GMT
I’ve no idea as I don’t live there , but as poor as he might be , as disliked as he might be …… he’ll still beat that absolute weapon the Tories put up against him . Then the votors will get what they vote for, namely....further expansion of ULEZ, pay per mile (which he denied but papers have since come to light that's what Khan is planning), increase in knife crime and murders on the street (and no Sadiq I'm not watching too much of The Wire). I would refer the learned gentleman to the clause in the funding for TFL inserted by the then Transport Secretary Grant ((My other name is Michael Green) Shapps who insisted that the funding was in part subject to ULEZ expansion.
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Post by supergas on May 4, 2024 13:36:08 GMT
I’ve no idea as I don’t live there , but as poor as he might be , as disliked as he might be …… he’ll still beat that absolute weapon the Tories put up against him . Then the votors will get what they vote for, namely....further expansion of ULEZ, pay per mile (which he denied but papers have since come to light that's what Khan is planning), increase in knife crime and murders on the street (and no Sadiq I'm not watching too much of The Wire). They will indeed get what they vote for and that now looks like Khan unless there are some very rogue results coming up. One thing that will be interesting is that whilst in opposition the Conservatives will have a lot more time to plan for the next London Mayoral election which is likely to happen before the following General Election. I suspect Khan won't run for a fourth term anyway but I suspect they will be spending a lot more time picking and supporting their candidate for 2028 as London is not the Labour stronghold many thought it was/is....
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Post by supergas on May 4, 2024 13:39:28 GMT
Then the votors will get what they vote for, namely....further expansion of ULEZ, pay per mile (which he denied but papers have since come to light that's what Khan is planning), increase in knife crime and murders on the street (and no Sadiq I'm not watching too much of The Wire). I would refer the learned gentleman to the clause in the funding for TFL inserted by the then Transport Secretary Grant ((My other name is Michael Green) Shapps who insisted that the funding was in part subject to ULEZ expansion. fullfact.org/online/ulez-expansion-letter/Awkward...
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Post by yattongas on May 4, 2024 14:24:42 GMT
I’ve no idea as I don’t live there , but as poor as he might be , as disliked as he might be …… he’ll still beat that absolute weapon the Tories put up against him . Then the votors will get what they vote for, namely....further expansion of ULEZ, pay per mile (which he denied but papers have since come to light that's what Khan is planning), increase in knife crime and murders on the street (and no Sadiq I'm not watching too much of The Wire). Still better than that racist weapon
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Post by oldie on May 4, 2024 14:57:02 GMT
I would refer the learned gentleman to the clause in the funding for TFL inserted by the then Transport Secretary Grant ((My other name is Michael Green) Shapps who insisted that the funding was in part subject to ULEZ expansion. fullfact.org/online/ulez-expansion-letter/Awkward... Very "While a funding agreement between the government and Transport for London in 2020 did state that proposals to expand ULEZ should be brought forward"
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Post by supergas on May 4, 2024 15:04:14 GMT
Very "While a funding agreement between the government and Transport for London in 2020 did state that proposals to expand ULEZ should be brought forward" Yes. Khan was required to implement changes he had already agreed to pre-covid to raise revenue, rather than rely on a government bailout....
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Post by Gassy on May 4, 2024 15:20:43 GMT
Wow it’s salty in here, people!
10 points is massive considering he messed up ULEZ and has done poorly managing the police / protests.
Should he be Mayor again? Debatable. Should the Tory? Absolutely not, all she had going for her was stopping ULEZ. 10 points clear after all that, it’s clear London is still a Labour strong hold.
Now, who mentioned champagne? 🍾
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Post by francegas on May 4, 2024 16:00:24 GMT
Then the votors will get what they vote for, namely....further expansion of ULEZ, pay per mile (which he denied but papers have since come to light that's what Khan is planning), increase in knife crime and murders on the street (and no Sadiq I'm not watching too much of The Wire). Still better than that racist weapon Really and Khan isn't racist. Thank god I no longer live in Hillingdon. God help London.
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Post by francegas on May 4, 2024 16:22:42 GMT
Wow it’s salty in here, people! 10 points is massive considering he messed up ULEZ and has done poorly managing the police / protests. Should he be Mayor again? Debatable. Should the Tory? Absolutely not, all she had going for her was stopping ULEZ. 10 points clear after all that, it’s clear London is still a Labour strong hold. Now, who mentioned champagne? 🍾 Dig at me all you like. Your too kind to Khan (no surprise there) Messed up ULEZ are you having a laugh? he totally "f**ked it up some people face paying £27.50 a day to get to work and small businesses are being destroyed because of it. Are you honestly being serious saying he did poorly managing the police? Knife crime is up, we see the Met Police officers taking the knee, dancing the Macarena, painting rainbow flags on their cars ...try telling the parents of the 14 year old murdered in Hainault last week Khan has only performed poorly. Deluded!
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Post by Gassy on May 4, 2024 18:29:24 GMT
Wow it’s salty in here, people! 10 points is massive considering he messed up ULEZ and has done poorly managing the police / protests. Should he be Mayor again? Debatable. Should the Tory? Absolutely not, all she had going for her was stopping ULEZ. 10 points clear after all that, it’s clear London is still a Labour strong hold. Now, who mentioned champagne? 🍾 Dig at me all you like. Your too kind to Khan (no surprise there) Messed up ULEZ are you having a laugh? he totally "f**ked it up some people face paying £27.50 a day to get to work and small businesses are being destroyed because of it. Are you honestly being serious saying he did poorly managing the police? Knife crime is up, we see the Met Police officers taking the knee, dancing the Macarena, painting rainbow flags on their cars ...try telling the parents of the 14 year old murdered in Hainault last week Khan has only performed poorly. Deluded! Why would they pay £27.50 a day when the charge is £15? Unless you mean because they’re going into central, in which case they’re getting transport anyway, because it’s cheaper, 10x faster and you don’t need to spend £100 on parking. Anyone rich enough to work and drive to central London isn’t complaining about ULEZ mate. I have no problem with met forces taking actions needed to calm crowds and get on side. That’s just good policing, if you’re offended by that then perhaps you’re the new ‘snowflake’? What I dislike with the met if their arrogance, leadership, response time and culture. Much of that is oh Khan no doubt, but it’s also on the government for their public spending cuts. Your entire post seems to be livid because I said he was poor, instead of ‘terrible’ on a couple of issues. Is that really your point? Yet you still support the Tories and back them up after that last 14 years? Do you not see the irony in that?
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Post by stuart1974 on May 4, 2024 19:40:40 GMT
Question to Yatton and France, do you have any links about the alleged racism?
In other news, Labour may edge the West Midlands Mayor. That will be a big blow to Sunak, just as the papers are reporting his detractors may be quietening down a little.
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Post by yattongas on May 4, 2024 19:43:16 GMT
Still better than that racist weapon Really and Khan isn't racist. Thank god I no longer live in Hillingdon. God help London. Elaborate
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